Too Much Flow?

Stray32 · 10/28/2008, 06:34 AM

I just set up my 75 gallon tank (thanks raynist for your help), and I have two Koralia 3's, one on each end. I put my anemones in last night, and wherever I put them, they were getting blown all over the place. I don't have any SPS coral right now, mostly zoas, a brain, a frogspawn, and some other easy coral. Do I need that much flow for these guys or will one Koralia 3 be sufficient?

stingythingy45 · 10/28/2008, 06:41 AM

One would be fine.
But if you can point the jets toward the surface of the tank,try that first.I have mostly leathers,zoas and LPS in my tank and I get away with 2 Maxijet 1200s.I tried a modded MJ and it was too much.Contrary to popular belief,you can have too much flow.

Simon68 · 10/28/2008, 06:50 AM

I don't think that's correct. I have a 75 gallon and I have a Koralia 3 AND a modded MJ1200 and I have a RBTA and an electric torch coral and they both love it.

stingythingy45 · 10/28/2008, 07:03 AM

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Originally posted by Simon68
I don't think that's correct. I have a 75 gallon and I have a Koralia 3 AND a modded MJ1200 and I have a RBTA and an electric torch coral and they both love it.

You don't think WHAT"S correct?
That you can't have too much flow in a tank?
Try pointing that modded MJ directly at your anemone and see how much it loves it.

Simon68 · 10/28/2008, 07:14 AM

No, I didn't mean that, of course you can have too much flow. Just that 2 Koralia 3's is nowhere near too much flow for a 75 gallon.

stingythingy45 · 10/28/2008, 07:28 AM

It really all depends what you have in the tank,IMO.
I've added extra flow and heard,"your corals will get used to the flow".And then after a week and everything closed tight,I figured it was time to go back to what I had originally.If it's not broke,don't fix it.
Personally,I don't care for the modded MJ unless the impeller is modded for LESS flow.The darn thing was constantly sucking down whirlpools and blowing microbubbles everywhere.Then if you lower it,welcome to the sand drift problems(this is in a 90 gallon).So for me,with only a few SPS,less flow and a turkey baster blasting the rockwork occasionally works.You may have a totaly different thing going on than I do.So the combination you have may be good for what you have going on with rockwork and coral/anemone placement.

crvz · 10/28/2008, 07:37 AM

That doesnt have to be too much flow, but how it's employed will be the deciding factor. If there's not a suitable place for the anemone right now, try adding or redoing the rockwork to allow some shielding form the flow.

Stray32 · 10/28/2008, 07:52 AM

I am definitely going to redo the rockwork, and my nems move on their own all the time, so I am sure they will find a suitable place to hang out. It just sure seems like a ton of flow for that tank, maybe I am wrong though. Thanks for the info.

Tswifty · 10/28/2008, 04:14 PM

2 K3's is definitely NOT too much flow for a 75. I had 2 K3's in a 55g tank with softies, and everything was fine.

Of course it depends where you have them placed.

WaterKeeper · 10/28/2008, 04:27 PM

Anemones do not anchor to areas where they are not satisfied with conditions. They move about the tank until they find a suitable area and anchor. Most like fairly high flow but they all like intense light. If your light levels are low try placing them on the top areas of the rock work.

mdenismd · 10/28/2008, 04:28 PM

Just upgraded to a EHEIM 1262 in a 55gal. My Foxface has been stressed for a long time. She's bright yellow and loving it. Anybody else ever notice similar changes??

xskyzx · 10/28/2008, 04:34 PM

2 k3s is good for your tank. you might need to redo some of your rock works....GL

markcerm · 10/28/2008, 04:51 PM

i have 2 #3s in my 46 gal tank lol and i want more. sometimes you have to adjust them a lot at first. i dont think 2 of them is too much at all in a 75.

intenseimage · 10/30/2008, 12:33 PM

I have a Vortech running at near full blast (3000 gph) in my 75 and everyone loves it (softies, bta, etc)

There is a vid a few posts down

Michael · 10/30/2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by Tswifty8
2 K3's is definitely NOT too much flow for a 75. I had 2 K3's in a 55g tank with softies, and everything was fine.

Of course it depends where you have them placed.

totally agree with tswifty, definately not too much flow at all, just move the phs until you get the position right, i have 5 phs in my 90 and the return, i also have sugar size aragonite sand and have no flow problems, its all about positioning the phs in the right position, trial and error, 2 k3s are fine in there, just fine

Stray32 · 10/30/2008, 12:42 PM

It seems to be unanimous, thanks guys.

gbreynol · 10/30/2008, 12:49 PM

I had 2 Koralia 4s in my 72 and it was not too much. You are fine.

stingythingy45 · 10/30/2008, 01:01 PM

Whatever....
Koralias stink anyways......

Michael · 10/30/2008, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stingythingy45
Whatever....
Koralias stink anyways......

? why do you think that, stingy

Stray32 · 10/30/2008, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stingythingy45
Whatever....
Koralias stink anyways......

And here I was thinking that TSwifty was the Koralia hater haha

Stray32 · 10/30/2008, 01:39 PM

The biggest lesson I have learned as a newbie:

Is that this hobby seems to be one of preference. I have had differing opinions on just about every single piece of equipment I have bought, from powerheads, to pumps, to lights, and skimmers. And I can always guarantee that if I ask for an opinion on a 75 rr, with 20 gal sump, Koralia phs, Eheim return, and T5 lighting, that I will get someone that recommends a custom drilled 75 gal, 30 gal sump, Tunze powerheads, Ocean Runner return, and MH lighting

I value each of your opinions, thanks again for everyone's help!

Reefolution · 10/30/2008, 01:58 PM

You could redirect the flow to the glass to deflect it. Also, what if you used a timer to alternate the Koralia 3's for variations in direction of flow?

10/28/2008, 06:34 AM	#1
Stray32 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Castle Shannon (Pittsburgh) PA Posts: 897	Too Much Flow? I just set up my 75 gallon tank (thanks raynist for your help), and I have two Koralia 3's, one on each end. I put my anemones in last night, and wherever I put them, they were getting blown all over the place. I don't have any SPS coral right now, mostly zoas, a brain, a frogspawn, and some other easy coral. Do I need that much flow for these guys or will one Koralia 3 be sufficient?

10/28/2008, 06:41 AM	#2
stingythingy45 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: MA Posts: 3,296	One would be fine. But if you can point the jets toward the surface of the tank,try that first.I have mostly leathers,zoas and LPS in my tank and I get away with 2 Maxijet 1200s.I tried a modded MJ and it was too much.Contrary to popular belief,you can have too much flow. __________________ Bob Current Tank Info: 90 gallon,mixed Reef,2-250 watt Optix 3 pendants(Phoenix 14K)2-54 watt T5 Super actnics ,ASM G-2 Gate/recirc mods,70 gal. basement sump,20L ref

10/28/2008, 07:28 AM	#6
stingythingy45 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: MA Posts: 3,296	It really all depends what you have in the tank,IMO. I've added extra flow and heard,"your corals will get used to the flow".And then after a week and everything closed tight,I figured it was time to go back to what I had originally.If it's not broke,don't fix it. Personally,I don't care for the modded MJ unless the impeller is modded for LESS flow.The darn thing was constantly sucking down whirlpools and blowing microbubbles everywhere.Then if you lower it,welcome to the sand drift problems(this is in a 90 gallon).So for me,with only a few SPS,less flow and a turkey baster blasting the rockwork occasionally works.You may have a totaly different thing going on than I do.So the combination you have may be good for what you have going on with rockwork and coral/anemone placement. __________________ Bob Current Tank Info: 90 gallon,mixed Reef,2-250 watt Optix 3 pendants(Phoenix 14K)2-54 watt T5 Super actnics ,ASM G-2 Gate/recirc mods,70 gal. basement sump,20L ref

10/28/2008, 07:37 AM	#7
crvz Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: houstonia Posts: 7,989	That doesnt have to be too much flow, but how it's employed will be the deciding factor. If there's not a suitable place for the anemone right now, try adding or redoing the rockwork to allow some shielding form the flow. __________________ -Chris- You don't win friends with salad. "Look! They're trying to learn for free!" ... "Use your phony guns as clubs!" Current Tank Info: rectangluar? wet?

10/28/2008, 07:52 AM	#8
Stray32 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Castle Shannon (Pittsburgh) PA Posts: 897	I am definitely going to redo the rockwork, and my nems move on their own all the time, so I am sure they will find a suitable place to hang out. It just sure seems like a ton of flow for that tank, maybe I am wrong though. Thanks for the info. __________________ Thanks, Jared Current Tank Info: 75 gal mixed reef, 30 Gal Frag Tank

10/28/2008, 06:50 AM	#3
Simon68 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 230	I don't think that's correct. I have a 75 gallon and I have a Koralia 3 AND a modded MJ1200 and I have a RBTA and an electric torch coral and they both love it.

10/28/2008, 07:14 AM	#5
Simon68 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 230	No, I didn't mean that, of course you can have too much flow. Just that 2 Koralia 3's is nowhere near too much flow for a 75 gallon.

10/28/2008, 04:14 PM	#9
Tswifty Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PA Posts: 14,022	2 K3's is definitely NOT too much flow for a 75. I had 2 K3's in a 55g tank with softies, and everything was fine. Of course it depends where you have them placed. __________________ "Enough light? Heck I could go barebottom and grow SPS in the stand!" - DiscoReefRover

10/28/2008, 04:27 PM	#10
WaterKeeper Bogus Information Expert Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 16,147	Anemones do not anchor to areas where they are not satisfied with conditions. They move about the tank until they find a suitable area and anchor. Most like fairly high flow but they all like intense light. If your light levels are low try placing them on the top areas of the rock work. __________________ "Leading the information hungry reefer down the road to starvation" Tom Current Tank Info: 130 Now out of service and a 29

10/28/2008, 04:28 PM	#11
mdenismd Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: S. Florida Posts: 28	Just upgraded to a EHEIM 1262 in a 55gal. My Foxface has been stressed for a long time. She's bright yellow and loving it. Anybody else ever notice similar changes??

10/28/2008, 04:34 PM	#12
xskyzx Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 439	2 k3s is good for your tank. you might need to redo some of your rock works....GL

10/28/2008, 04:51 PM	#13
markcerm Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: pa Posts: 163	i have 2 #3s in my 46 gal tank lol and i want more. sometimes you have to adjust them a lot at first. i dont think 2 of them is too much at all in a 75.

10/30/2008, 12:33 PM	#14
intenseimage Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Northampton, PA Posts: 1,135	I have a Vortech running at near full blast (3000 gph) in my 75 and everyone loves it (softies, bta, etc) There is a vid a few posts down

10/30/2008, 12:42 PM	#16
Stray32 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Castle Shannon (Pittsburgh) PA Posts: 897	It seems to be unanimous, thanks guys. __________________ Thanks, Jared Current Tank Info: 75 gal mixed reef, 30 Gal Frag Tank

10/30/2008, 12:49 PM	#17
gbreynol Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Newport, RI Posts: 218	I had 2 Koralia 4s in my 72 and it was not too much. You are fine.

10/30/2008, 01:01 PM	#18
stingythingy45 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: MA Posts: 3,296	Whatever.... Koralias stink anyways...... __________________ Bob Current Tank Info: 90 gallon,mixed Reef,2-250 watt Optix 3 pendants(Phoenix 14K)2-54 watt T5 Super actnics ,ASM G-2 Gate/recirc mods,70 gal. basement sump,20L ref

10/30/2008, 01:39 PM	#21
Stray32 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Castle Shannon (Pittsburgh) PA Posts: 897	The biggest lesson I have learned as a newbie: Is that this hobby seems to be one of preference. I have had differing opinions on just about every single piece of equipment I have bought, from powerheads, to pumps, to lights, and skimmers. And I can always guarantee that if I ask for an opinion on a 75 rr, with 20 gal sump, Koralia phs, Eheim return, and T5 lighting, that I will get someone that recommends a custom drilled 75 gal, 30 gal sump, Tunze powerheads, Ocean Runner return, and MH lighting I value each of your opinions, thanks again for everyone's help!

10/30/2008, 01:58 PM	#22
Reefolution Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 299	You could redirect the flow to the glass to deflect it. Also, what if you used a timer to alternate the Koralia 3's for variations in direction of flow?