That's LED for price less then $500

[possys]

Hi everyone,

Do you know, that's new LED and T5 combo will come out on the market and price will be lesss then half of PFO, and you be use it for anything you want.

[Jeff]

It's hard to fiure out what you mean. Do you have a link?

[Guygettnby]

sounds like a sales pitch to me....

[Monkeyfish]

This thread is useless without more info on the proposed light.

[ShootMe]

Did you host that picture on your own website? Why not link right to it from the company website? Again need more info.

[SWSaltwater]

Well seems no LED's will hit the market with the lawsuit against PFO. Once that is done the other companies with LED's will get sued or stop making them.

[Masoch]

Originally posted by SWSaltwater
Well seems no LED's will hit the market with the lawsuit against PFO. Once that is done the other companies with LED's will get sued or stop making them.

That's not really the case.

Companies can get a license from Orbitec to make / sell / distribute LED lighting systems in the States (supposedly, PFO was in talks with Orbitec).

Companies can work around the patent (although it seems rather broad).

Orbitec can come out with its own light.

Companies outside the US can make / sell / distribute LED lighting systems outside the US -- I don't think Orbitec obtained patents anywhere else.

This patent does not cripple LED reef lighting, it just gives Orbitec a (legal) monopoly on the concept within the US ... keeping in mind that the US is /not/ the only country with reefkeepers.

[Monkeyfish]

Back to topic...

I still want to know more about the light from the initial post.

[BLANKENSHIP76]

That LED is made by a manufacturer in China, they can still import and sell LED lights. They have their own Chinese patents, so the US patents only affect companies based in US.

I do not think Orbitec can go after the distributors, so they would have to fight the Chinese manufacturer good luck with that!

Their website is www.shkerry.cn however this fixture isn't shown on there.

If you really want to see some good LEDs coming in from China go to www.royalaquarium.com and these are being distributed through California. Rumors has it by summeer they will have a light that outperforms halides????

We will see!!!!

[aninjaatemyshoe]

I don't know about going for a Chinese made LED light at the moment. Look at the problems people were having with the Chinese made PFO Solaris versions. Those were with the design and specifications from PFO. Just think about how bad a Chinese LED fixture would be when the specifications and design are from some Chinese company. My guess is it would be crammed with low quality electronic components. Probably would not last very long.

[aninjaatemyshoe]

I do like the LED/T5 combination idea, however. You get a lot more PAR out of the white LEDs than you get out of the blue ones. Best solution would be to pair the white LEDs with blue and actinic T5 bulbs.

[BLANKENSHIP76]

Did you watch that video on the site that light looks pretty cool.

[aninjaatemyshoe]

I've seen it before. It looks cool I must admit. And if a good number of people buy them, like them, and have few technical issues, I'd drop my prejudice against them for being Chinese made. However, at the moment, I've seen way too many examples of Chinese products in this hobby being complete lemons to invest that kind of money in a relatively complicated piece of equipment.

Now, I do own a Chinese made skimmer. The body is Chinese-made and the pump is an Askoll (not sure where those are made). I don't mind so much in this instance that it is Chinese because the skimmer body is basically a hunk of acrylic. That is totally different from a lighting fixture that depends upon electronic components.

[redfishsc]

From the looks of that unit, the T5's will be what does all the PAR output and the LED's will be basically over-glorified moonlights.


IF.. big IF those are true high-power LED's like Cree, they might show off some decent shimmer. But I doubt they will contribute large amounts of PAR.


I'd be willing to bet throwing in another T5 or two in that setup and skipping that particular LED array would give better PAR readings.

[BLANKENSHIP76]

Those LED are 1W each they are glorified moon lights, they will just provide the missing shimmer.

PFOs were 3.5W each.

[BLANKENSHIP76]

Here are the specs a friend e-mailed me:


1W high output LED, made in Taiwan. 98% light output within PAR range of 400-700 Wave length.
Each LED can carry an output of 1.03W, with 70LM output for 15000K. Rated working tem below 55C. Main tests we made: , DC12V cooling fans (one for each 30cm lamp length)included. Increase output of each LED to 1.4W, working 480H Pass
40W LED equals to 150W metal halide light, while power consuption only quarter of HID. Output wavelength of Random 100 LEDs Same, Pass
Each 30cm is a module, with 7 pcs circuit board, each circuit board mounts 3 LEDs.
Each module with individual LED driver and cooling fan*1, DC 12V voltage driven

[Gomer]

1W high output LED, made in Taiwan.

I stopped reading right there.

[Jeff]

Originally posted by Gomer
I stopped reading right there.

Agreed, why bother? 1 watt LED's seem to be good for supplimenting other forms of lighting that provide sufficient lighting for the growth of corals.

[sunsetSPS]

I'm not sure about LEDs but 6 months ago I saw a Solaris LEDs light in one of the LFS and I was impressed about the light it gave. 6 months later I came back and saw the same light and it was so dim; very disappointed.

[Jeff]

They ave lunar modes and cloudcover modes built into the controller. maybe you were there when a cloud was passing over.