Help me! Please?!?! What happened to my hammer?

MarineGirl411 · 05/08/2009, 08:17 PM

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It's the teal one.

Is there anything I can do to keep from losing it? It's teal and I've been looking for one of these for years. =*( I am so depressed. I dipped it in Seachems Reef Dip today. I have no idea what is going on with it. =(

ChrisKirkland · 05/08/2009, 08:20 PM

What is your tank parameters and how long has the tank been setup??

MarineGirl411 · 05/08/2009, 08:28 PM

Everything else in the tank is great!!! I have SPS, 2 other hammers, and micro's. My params are good. I just don't see how this happened. This tank has been set up for 3 years. My temp is 77-79*, calcium is 425, alk is 8. If there was something wrong with my water, why would anything else not be affected?

MarineGirl411 · 05/08/2009, 08:30 PM

I do have slight cyano on that corner of my tank where I took the picture. I moved him because I thought maybe my clown attacked it. He's been attacking my corals and moving them around. I have no idea what is going on.

ChrisKirkland · 05/08/2009, 08:37 PM

It could have been the clown then or just the coral was diseased... How long have you had that coral?

MarineGirl411 · 05/08/2009, 08:38 PM

I've had the coral for almost 2 months. Is there anything I can do to try and save it?

ChrisKirkland · 05/08/2009, 08:45 PM

With LPS corals they have very sensitive tissues... Probably not going to be able to save that one... Seems as if it was already diseased and it just gave way after you put it in the tank...

MarineGirl411 · 05/08/2009, 08:49 PM

=*( It had opened up nicely and expanded quite a bit over those past 2 months. This is really sad.

spleify · 05/08/2009, 11:14 PM

Here you go

xJake · 05/09/2009, 01:05 AM

I would cut off the healthy portions as quickly as possible and then toss the rest. I've had this happen to quite a few Euphyllia corals, and I've successfully recovered part of the colony every time by doing this. The cause is unknown, but it could be anything from an infection to a chemically induced response (i.e. water chemistry isn't ideal).

MarineGirl411 · 05/09/2009, 11:34 AM

Spleify those are all hammers. From what I understand you can place hammers together. Am I wrong???? If I am wrong, please tell me.

MarineGirl411 · 05/09/2009, 11:43 AM

XJake, thank you. I am going to try and cut off the healthy portion on the right. I really appreciate everyone's help. I love my animals and I hate to see them in pain. I am going to feel awful if placing the hammers together did this. From what I've always understood and spoke to people about, is that you can place them together. =*(

CoRPS · 05/09/2009, 12:57 PM

Just hope it wasn't brown jelly. If it was you should be nervous about the rest of your LPS corals.

mrkalel · 05/09/2009, 01:19 PM

Hey MGirl...

Do you have any shrimp or other nipping fish... you can sometimes have a pest that can start an infection and it spreads very quickly among these types of Corals...

As for placements... you dont have to worry about anchor/hammers & frogspawns... where some people make mistakes is having torches close to those types...

driftin · 05/09/2009, 04:12 PM

That happened to our hammer as well. Perfectly happy for over a year, recovered from being bleached at the LFS, growing, etc and then one day - bam a dead spot right in the middle just like yours. I wish I had cut a portion to try to save it. Ours continued to die for no apparent reason, all other euphylia in the tank were and still are fine. I feel your pain!

Try cutting the healthy piece, you really have nothing to lose. If my experience is typical, it's only going to continue to die if left alone.

MarineGirl411 · 05/09/2009, 06:24 PM

Hi everyone. At least I am not alone. I cut off the dead skeleton on the side where all the polyps released basically. I now am left with a tiny frag, but I truly hope I can save it. It's one of my favorite corals, if not my favorite.

I have no shrimp, but I have a clownfish that has been attacking my corals if it's too close to his home. Even if it's not too close he's harassing them. So I put it on the other side of the tank so hopefully I can save it. It's in a lower flow area and I've already fed it today. =*( It didn't look like brown jelly. Thanks for the heads up. Thank you Corps, driftin, and mrkalel.

wrestle1952 · 05/10/2009, 12:21 PM

I have had one reef tank or another since 1986. Some of you may not have been born yet LOL. I have never been able to keep any euphyllia corals long term. I currently have a 50 gallon breeder with 2 x 250 watt 20K MH using a Coralife superskimmer that has been very successful. ALL of my SPS have grown tremedously in a year. However I have tried 3 tank raised frags of euphyllia and they looked great for a month. They proceeded to do what every other piece I have had in the past. They slowly get smaller and smaller and then are gone. Now I just stick to other LPS such as blastomussa, acans, cynarina, and colorful fungia. Good luck with your other pieces.

05/08/2009, 08:17 PM	#1
MarineGirl411 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,583	Help me! Please?!?! What happened to my hammer? http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...erscloseup.jpg http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/100_0544.jpg It's the teal one. Is there anything I can do to keep from losing it? It's teal and I've been looking for one of these for years. =*( I am so depressed. I dipped it in Seachems Reef Dip today. I have no idea what is going on with it. =( __________________ I am a reefaholic and there is no cure. =) Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef, Cardiff Nano Seahorse tank.

05/08/2009, 08:20 PM	#2
ChrisKirkland Reef and Coral Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lexington, Ky. Posts: 1,739	What is your tank parameters and how long has the tank been setup?? __________________ Chris Kirkland Reef Nerd. Current Tank Info: Getting back into the hobby.

05/08/2009, 08:28 PM	#3
MarineGirl411 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,583	Everything else in the tank is great!!! I have SPS, 2 other hammers, and micro's. My params are good. I just don't see how this happened. This tank has been set up for 3 years. My temp is 77-79*, calcium is 425, alk is 8. If there was something wrong with my water, why would anything else not be affected? __________________ I am a reefaholic and there is no cure. =) Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef, Cardiff Nano Seahorse tank.

05/08/2009, 08:30 PM	#4
MarineGirl411 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,583	I do have slight cyano on that corner of my tank where I took the picture. I moved him because I thought maybe my clown attacked it. He's been attacking my corals and moving them around. I have no idea what is going on. __________________ I am a reefaholic and there is no cure. =) Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef, Cardiff Nano Seahorse tank.

05/08/2009, 08:37 PM	#5
ChrisKirkland Reef and Coral Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lexington, Ky. Posts: 1,739	It could have been the clown then or just the coral was diseased... How long have you had that coral? __________________ Chris Kirkland Reef Nerd. Current Tank Info: Getting back into the hobby.

05/08/2009, 08:38 PM	#6
MarineGirl411 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,583	I've had the coral for almost 2 months. Is there anything I can do to try and save it? __________________ I am a reefaholic and there is no cure. =) Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef, Cardiff Nano Seahorse tank.

05/08/2009, 08:45 PM	#7
ChrisKirkland Reef and Coral Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lexington, Ky. Posts: 1,739	With LPS corals they have very sensitive tissues... Probably not going to be able to save that one... Seems as if it was already diseased and it just gave way after you put it in the tank... __________________ Chris Kirkland Reef Nerd. Current Tank Info: Getting back into the hobby.

05/08/2009, 08:49 PM	#8
MarineGirl411 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,583	=*( It had opened up nicely and expanded quite a bit over those past 2 months. This is really sad. __________________ I am a reefaholic and there is no cure. =) Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef, Cardiff Nano Seahorse tank.

05/08/2009, 11:14 PM	#9
spleify Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 9,579	Here you go __________________ Make it a Great Day!!!! Current Tank Info: 60 gal SPS cube, with 25 gal refugium, 400W MH, DIY Lumenarc III, DIY skimmer, DIY stand and canopy. 40 breeder LPS with 40 gallon sump, DIY stand, 250W MH

05/09/2009, 01:05 AM	#10
xJake Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,385	I would cut off the healthy portions as quickly as possible and then toss the rest. I've had this happen to quite a few Euphyllia corals, and I've successfully recovered part of the colony every time by doing this. The cause is unknown, but it could be anything from an infection to a chemically induced response (i.e. water chemistry isn't ideal).

05/09/2009, 11:34 AM	#11
MarineGirl411 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,583	Spleify those are all hammers. From what I understand you can place hammers together. Am I wrong???? If I am wrong, please tell me. __________________ I am a reefaholic and there is no cure. =) Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef, Cardiff Nano Seahorse tank.

05/09/2009, 11:43 AM	#12
MarineGirl411 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,583	XJake, thank you. I am going to try and cut off the healthy portion on the right. I really appreciate everyone's help. I love my animals and I hate to see them in pain. I am going to feel awful if placing the hammers together did this. From what I've always understood and spoke to people about, is that you can place them together. =*( __________________ I am a reefaholic and there is no cure. =) Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef, Cardiff Nano Seahorse tank.

05/09/2009, 12:57 PM	#13
CoRPS Big Time Reefer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: P-RINE Posts: 2,887	Just hope it wasn't brown jelly. If it was you should be nervous about the rest of your LPS corals.

05/09/2009, 01:19 PM	#14
mrkalel Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Long Island Posts: 614	Hey MGirl... Do you have any shrimp or other nipping fish... you can sometimes have a pest that can start an infection and it spreads very quickly among these types of Corals... As for placements... you dont have to worry about anchor/hammers & frogspawns... where some people make mistakes is having torches close to those types... __________________ Able to spend a ridiculous amount of time staring at a fish bowl... https://twitter.com/MrKal_El https://instagram.com/mrkal_el/ Current Tank Info: Oceanic 144 Gal Half-Circle Display / AGA 72 Gal Bow-Front Fuge / Oceanic 60 Gal Sump 3 / ReeFlo Hammerhead Return / AquaC EV-240 Skimmer w. Mag 18 / Basement Sump & Fuge / 4 Reefbreeders Supernova's

05/09/2009, 04:12 PM	#15
driftin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,247	That happened to our hammer as well. Perfectly happy for over a year, recovered from being bleached at the LFS, growing, etc and then one day - bam a dead spot right in the middle just like yours. I wish I had cut a portion to try to save it. Ours continued to die for no apparent reason, all other euphylia in the tank were and still are fine. I feel your pain! Try cutting the healthy piece, you really have nothing to lose. If my experience is typical, it's only going to continue to die if left alone. __________________ -Jim Current Tank Info: 70 gal custom room divider

05/09/2009, 06:24 PM	#16
MarineGirl411 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,583	Hi everyone. At least I am not alone. I cut off the dead skeleton on the side where all the polyps released basically. I now am left with a tiny frag, but I truly hope I can save it. It's one of my favorite corals, if not my favorite. I have no shrimp, but I have a clownfish that has been attacking my corals if it's too close to his home. Even if it's not too close he's harassing them. So I put it on the other side of the tank so hopefully I can save it. It's in a lower flow area and I've already fed it today. =*( It didn't look like brown jelly. Thanks for the heads up. Thank you Corps, driftin, and mrkalel. __________________ I am a reefaholic and there is no cure. =) Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef, Cardiff Nano Seahorse tank.

05/10/2009, 12:21 PM	#17
wrestle1952 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Leandro, CA Posts: 286	I have had one reef tank or another since 1986. Some of you may not have been born yet LOL. I have never been able to keep any euphyllia corals long term. I currently have a 50 gallon breeder with 2 x 250 watt 20K MH using a Coralife superskimmer that has been very successful. ALL of my SPS have grown tremedously in a year. However I have tried 3 tank raised frags of euphyllia and they looked great for a month. They proceeded to do what every other piece I have had in the past. They slowly get smaller and smaller and then are gone. Now I just stick to other LPS such as blastomussa, acans, cynarina, and colorful fungia. Good luck with your other pieces.