EMERGENCY! My tang keeps hiding and not moving

jackolee · 05/14/2009, 06:39 PM

I dont know whats wrong with my blue tang =(

I came home found him hiding under a rock and not moving around like usual with the other fishes.

I thought he was dead for a sec so I went to move him and he moved to another section of the tank and hid under another rock where I couldnt touch him.

Is this normal?!?! Im really worried! =(

paigeriley · 05/14/2009, 06:45 PM

i worked with a blue hippo tang that was very aloof and loved to swim around the tank. once, she was exposed to ich, and hid all the time. i quarentined (spelling?) her and when she returned to the tank ich free, she was back to normal.

perhaps, she's not feeling well?
have you put any new items into your tank without properly quaretining?

if so, maybe your fishy is sick.

is she eating?

(take everything i say with a grain of salt, hehe, i'm very new at this)

Aquarist007 · 05/14/2009, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jackolee
I dont know whats wrong with my blue tang =(

I came home found him hiding under a rock and not moving around like usual with the other fishes.

I thought he was dead for a sec so I went to move him and he moved to another section of the tank and hid under another rock where I couldnt touch him.

Is this normal?!?! Im really worried! =(

normal--I have a 5 inch blue who is a real baby--the slightest noise ect and it takes off into its hiding place in the rock

Don't be suprised to see your blue tank lying sideways or sliding into a really small crevise backwards either

jackolee · 05/14/2009, 06:50 PM

lol im pretty new too.

a manderin was just recently added.
also this giant coral.

none of the other fishes seem sick?
this tang is small.

she or he not sure which. was eating perfectly fine last night. I was at work for about 7 hours came home. and found em hiding.

If she is exposed to ich how do i properly quarantine her?

jackolee · 05/14/2009, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
normal--I have a 5 inch blue who is a real baby--the slightest noise ect and it takes off into its hiding place in the rock

Don't be suprised to see your blue tank lying sideways or sliding into a really small crevise backwards either

Oh?

I mean when I first got her she was hiding around the coral. Like inside the giant coral.

I was guessing she was shy and just getting use to the tank. A day later she was fine swimming everywhere. And I havent seen her do anything like this till now.

I dropped some flakes in to give my fishes somethign to nibble on till I feed them later on. But she kept hiding and didnt come out to eat =(

I just dont want her to die.

jackolee · 05/14/2009, 07:04 PM

Okay she just came out of hiding. is laying down sideways ontop of a rock.

Doesnt seem to be breathing =(

THE ROOK · 05/14/2009, 07:16 PM

Time to test your water before you lose any more.

jackolee · 05/14/2009, 07:22 PM

Yea I was about to do that right now.

Shes def dead =(
There is a fire shrimp where she was laying and he started cleaning her? and stuff and she didnt even react when the shrimp grabbed her.

Fell all the way to the bottom in between rocks. not even sure how im going to get her out now.....

jackolee · 05/14/2009, 07:26 PM

You think its possible that the sea urchin poisoned it some how???

kmf507 · 05/14/2009, 07:29 PM

How long has your tank been established? What is your filtration/ LR amount? What size is your tank?

romsoccer12 · 05/14/2009, 07:29 PM

poor little fishy! with death comes rebirth(as in buy a new one)=)
sorry about the loss

crdisme01 · 05/14/2009, 07:36 PM

My powder brown jumped out of the tank and then became a cat toy. Sorry about your loss.

jackolee · 05/14/2009, 07:39 PM

I rather not buy a new one.

My friend has tried raising one the same size as the one I had and it died many times.

Its a used tank. the stuff in there have been around for a long time.

I think my tank is crashing. My step dad at one point a few weeks ago kept buying new stuff.

I asked him to check the water since he was adding things.

But I guess he didnt cehck it. Im about to do it now.
Ill keep you guys posted.

I found a dead crab too. It either tried to eat the dead tang (dont know if it eats fish) and poisoned itself or something. but it was found dead right next to the tang.
Both were under a rock this time. looksl iek the crab tried to drag it into its layer

jackolee · 05/14/2009, 07:47 PM

Tank originally only had A galaxea coral. two live rocks with these plant things growing on them (forgot what they are called)

3 turbo snails. and a few hermit crabs. (and a few emerald crabs my friend didnt know about)

After I got it about 3 or 4 weeks ago.

They added 2 Fire Shrimps 2 clown fish, and 2 fire fish.

a few days alter they added a gobe a torch coral, a tongue coral.
and a sea urchin. and clam

and just last week he bought this giant coral. the tang, another sea urchin. a sponge. feather duster. scallop

i kept telling him after the first set he boughtto slow it down.
1 fish every 6 weeks and a coral a few weeks more than that of the fish.

but didnt listen. made him return scallop but i didnt know he bought a mandarin fish.

tank I bought is crashing cause he didnt listen!
MAKES ME SO MAD! That my tank is crashing cause they wont listen to me and rather listen to the fish store!

THE ROOK · 05/14/2009, 07:48 PM

Better prep some water for a water change. You'll likely need it. Also consider returning that manderin. It won't likely survive, either.

jackolee · 05/14/2009, 07:55 PM

Yea. Im going to force him to return whatever I say return.

Step dad rather believe the fish store than my research.

Going to check water now before I attempt a change

Ohiomom · 05/14/2009, 08:44 PM

Also how big is the tank? That is an awful lot to add so quickly even for a big tank..sorry to hear about your losses.

gnorts · 05/14/2009, 08:45 PM

happen to me with my hawian yellow tang. It came down with ich stay in rockwork for about three weeks ate all the way through it and is now happy as a clam swimming again. I wouldbnt be to worried yet as long as its eating. I didn"t Hospitalize mine becuase sometimes i feel it will stress them out more and mine ate like a pig during it. He is fine and fat still and doing well so... just keep an eye on it.

jackolee · 05/14/2009, 08:45 PM

Water checks out all fine.

Maybe it just wasnt eating right?
But that doesnt explain my dead crab =/

and i think one of my hermit crabs at my snail and took its shell

jackolee · 05/14/2009, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ohiomom
Also how big is the tank? That is an awful lot to add so quickly even for a big tank..sorry to hear about your losses.

Thats what I told them. >.<
Adults dont listen to the young.

Its about 36. Sump is about another 5??? I think.

And shes dead for sure. Just laying on the bottom of the tank not moving at all flat

ricksconnected · 05/14/2009, 09:46 PM

sorry to hear about the fish. what test kit is that your using?

jackolee · 05/14/2009, 09:48 PM

Im not completely sure.

My friend also just gave this to me when I bought the tank.
Didnt have the box that was originally on it

Why do you ask?

mat167 · 05/15/2009, 12:26 AM

It's a master kit by API. If it's a new one and none of the tests are expired, your water would be fine as long as you did the tests correctly (ie. shook the bottles properly and cleaned test tubes). API tests tend to expire very quickly however, so that's something you might want to look into especially if it's a used kit. I think the expiration dates are printed directly on the bottles.

That was a lot of livestock to add to a small tank (and I won't badger you about the blue tang in such a small tank, but it is a definite no-no). You mentioned that you've had it about a week before it died (unless I misread), so it's possible you just had a poorly handled specimen.

You didn't mention your salinity or temperature, but a large change in either of those could easily kill a fish and/or crab. Maybe someone topped off with saltwater? or unplugged a heater?

Some water changes will be to your benefit, so get on those ASAP. Don't get too discouraged.

ricksconnected · 05/15/2009, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jackolee
Im not completely sure.

My friend also just gave this to me when I bought the tank.
Didnt have the box that was originally on it

Why do you ask?

ive never seen tubes with cards connected like that. thats very cool indeed,

becact · 05/15/2009, 01:01 AM

The cards aren't attached, you hold the bottle to the card to check the color.

Be sure you aren't pouring water from the fish store into your tank. You could be pouring copper into your tank, which will kill your inverts.

Mandarins are pretty, but generally only eat a certain type of live food which only a large established tank can provide. You need to return him ASAP, in my opinion.

Tell your step dad to get his own tank, or sell him this one and get a nano for your room.

05/14/2009, 06:39 PM	#1
jackolee Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: TN Posts: 85	EMERGENCY! My tang keeps hiding and not moving I dont know whats wrong with my blue tang =( I came home found him hiding under a rock and not moving around like usual with the other fishes. I thought he was dead for a sec so I went to move him and he moved to another section of the tank and hid under another rock where I couldnt touch him. Is this normal?!?! Im really worried! =(

05/14/2009, 06:45 PM	#2
paigeriley Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mauldin, SC Posts: 12	i worked with a blue hippo tang that was very aloof and loved to swim around the tank. once, she was exposed to ich, and hid all the time. i quarentined (spelling?) her and when she returned to the tank ich free, she was back to normal. perhaps, she's not feeling well? have you put any new items into your tank without properly quaretining? if so, maybe your fishy is sick. is she eating? (take everything i say with a grain of salt, hehe, i'm very new at this) __________________ : peace & love, -paige riley. Current Tank Info: don't have one of my own, yet :(

05/14/2009, 07:29 PM	#10
kmf507 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 669	How long has your tank been established? What is your filtration/ LR amount? What size is your tank? __________________ Ralph Wiggum: When I grow up, I want to be a principal, or a caterpillar. Current Tank Info: 90g display, 30g sump, 10g fuge

05/14/2009, 07:29 PM	#11
romsoccer12 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ohio Posts: 2,625	poor little fishy! with death comes rebirth(as in buy a new one)=) sorry about the loss __________________ Colin R Current Tank Info: 3rd tank working fine!(29gal oceanic biocube) 5-6months old

05/14/2009, 08:44 PM	#17
Ohiomom Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,586	Also how big is the tank? That is an awful lot to add so quickly even for a big tank..sorry to hear about your losses. __________________ .....Sandra “Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect. It means that you've decided to look beyond the imperfections.” Current Tank Info: 75 galllon reef, T5HO love em!

05/14/2009, 06:50 PM	#4
jackolee Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: TN Posts: 85	lol im pretty new too. a manderin was just recently added. also this giant coral. none of the other fishes seem sick? this tang is small. she or he not sure which. was eating perfectly fine last night. I was at work for about 7 hours came home. and found em hiding. If she is exposed to ich how do i properly quarantine her?

05/14/2009, 07:04 PM	#6
jackolee Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: TN Posts: 85	Okay she just came out of hiding. is laying down sideways ontop of a rock. Doesnt seem to be breathing =(

05/14/2009, 07:16 PM	#7
THE ROOK Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Springfield, MA Posts: 2,100	Time to test your water before you lose any more.

05/14/2009, 07:22 PM	#8
jackolee Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: TN Posts: 85	Yea I was about to do that right now. Shes def dead =( There is a fire shrimp where she was laying and he started cleaning her? and stuff and she didnt even react when the shrimp grabbed her. Fell all the way to the bottom in between rocks. not even sure how im going to get her out now.....

05/14/2009, 07:26 PM	#9
jackolee Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: TN Posts: 85	You think its possible that the sea urchin poisoned it some how???

05/14/2009, 07:36 PM	#12
crdisme01 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Fenton, MO Posts: 26	My powder brown jumped out of the tank and then became a cat toy. Sorry about your loss.

05/14/2009, 07:39 PM	#13
jackolee Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: TN Posts: 85	I rather not buy a new one. My friend has tried raising one the same size as the one I had and it died many times. Its a used tank. the stuff in there have been around for a long time. I think my tank is crashing. My step dad at one point a few weeks ago kept buying new stuff. I asked him to check the water since he was adding things. But I guess he didnt cehck it. Im about to do it now. Ill keep you guys posted. I found a dead crab too. It either tried to eat the dead tang (dont know if it eats fish) and poisoned itself or something. but it was found dead right next to the tang. Both were under a rock this time. looksl iek the crab tried to drag it into its layer

05/14/2009, 07:47 PM	#14
jackolee Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: TN Posts: 85	Tank originally only had A galaxea coral. two live rocks with these plant things growing on them (forgot what they are called) 3 turbo snails. and a few hermit crabs. (and a few emerald crabs my friend didnt know about) After I got it about 3 or 4 weeks ago. They added 2 Fire Shrimps 2 clown fish, and 2 fire fish. a few days alter they added a gobe a torch coral, a tongue coral. and a sea urchin. and clam and just last week he bought this giant coral. the tang, another sea urchin. a sponge. feather duster. scallop i kept telling him after the first set he boughtto slow it down. 1 fish every 6 weeks and a coral a few weeks more than that of the fish. but didnt listen. made him return scallop but i didnt know he bought a mandarin fish. tank I bought is crashing cause he didnt listen! MAKES ME SO MAD! That my tank is crashing cause they wont listen to me and rather listen to the fish store!

05/14/2009, 07:48 PM	#15
THE ROOK Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Springfield, MA Posts: 2,100	Better prep some water for a water change. You'll likely need it. Also consider returning that manderin. It won't likely survive, either.

05/14/2009, 07:55 PM	#16
jackolee Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: TN Posts: 85	Yea. Im going to force him to return whatever I say return. Step dad rather believe the fish store than my research. Going to check water now before I attempt a change

05/14/2009, 08:45 PM	#18
gnorts Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 308	happen to me with my hawian yellow tang. It came down with ich stay in rockwork for about three weeks ate all the way through it and is now happy as a clam swimming again. I wouldbnt be to worried yet as long as its eating. I didn"t Hospitalize mine becuase sometimes i feel it will stress them out more and mine ate like a pig during it. He is fine and fat still and doing well so... just keep an eye on it.

05/14/2009, 09:46 PM	#21
ricksconnected Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: ga Posts: 201	sorry to hear about the fish. what test kit is that your using?

05/14/2009, 09:48 PM	#22
jackolee Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: TN Posts: 85	Im not completely sure. My friend also just gave this to me when I bought the tank. Didnt have the box that was originally on it Why do you ask?

05/15/2009, 12:26 AM	#23
mat167 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Montreal, South-Shore Posts: 473	It's a master kit by API. If it's a new one and none of the tests are expired, your water would be fine as long as you did the tests correctly (ie. shook the bottles properly and cleaned test tubes). API tests tend to expire very quickly however, so that's something you might want to look into especially if it's a used kit. I think the expiration dates are printed directly on the bottles. That was a lot of livestock to add to a small tank (and I won't badger you about the blue tang in such a small tank, but it is a definite no-no). You mentioned that you've had it about a week before it died (unless I misread), so it's possible you just had a poorly handled specimen. You didn't mention your salinity or temperature, but a large change in either of those could easily kill a fish and/or crab. Maybe someone topped off with saltwater? or unplugged a heater? Some water changes will be to your benefit, so get on those ASAP. Don't get too discouraged.

05/15/2009, 01:01 AM	#25
becact Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Dakota Posts: 550	The cards aren't attached, you hold the bottle to the card to check the color. Be sure you aren't pouring water from the fish store into your tank. You could be pouring copper into your tank, which will kill your inverts. Mandarins are pretty, but generally only eat a certain type of live food which only a large established tank can provide. You need to return him ASAP, in my opinion. Tell your step dad to get his own tank, or sell him this one and get a nano for your room.