Uncured Liverock

Cracken · 07/23/2009, 01:45 PM

What are the consequences of placing uncured ive rock in a cycled tank?

abulgin · 07/23/2009, 01:52 PM

1. How much uncured live rock?

2. What else is in the tank (e.g., sand, live rock, etc., and how much)?

3. How long as the tank been cycled?

Cracken · 07/23/2009, 02:00 PM

1. only about 5-10 lbs.

2. Already have bout 30 lbs of LR, Live sand 2 in. bed, And some fish.

3. the tank has been done with the cycle for almost a month.

I kno i might get some bad things like bugs ect. I am gunna keep an eye on it all at night and try to rid my tank of the bad ones.

abulgin · 07/23/2009, 02:08 PM

How big is the tank?

I wouldn't worry about the bugs. Rather, I would worry about causing a second, major cycle, which will wipe out everything. If your tank is big, that's one thing, but my guess from your current live rock is that it's 30-40 gallons. 10 lbs of uncured live rock in such a small volume will probably nuke everything.

korth659 · 07/23/2009, 02:34 PM

From what I have heard this amount of rock could cause a cycle.

shaginwagon13 · 07/23/2009, 04:29 PM

I wouldnt add 10 pounds if you only have 30 pounds in there.

I added 30 pounds to my tank but i had 270 pounds already in there.

I wouldn't add more then 5 pounds at a time for your tank.

reefscape15 · 07/23/2009, 05:36 PM

I'd add just one small piece at a time. Like what already has been said, you'd be adding another 1/3 of the total live rock you already have, and whats in there now will not be able to handle that large of an addition

Wolverine · 07/23/2009, 05:40 PM

I agree with the others, that much could cause problems. Either add the rock slowly, or, the other way you can do it is to cycle the new rock in a bucket or rubbermaid bin and then add it to the tank.

1DeR9_3Hy · 07/23/2009, 06:43 PM

Small amounts is your best bet, but even then this is still not a good idea since you will be introducing a ton of nutrients from the die off that other wised could have been 'cooked' off.

Cracken · 07/23/2009, 07:59 PM

Its A 55 gallon tank so i should but cured liverock instead. Yea i kno i dont have alot of LR because i didnt feel like spending so much so quick so i decided i will slowly add and its more like 35 pounds of LR

Cracken · 07/23/2009, 08:04 PM

Also i have aquestion but i kno curing live rock kills everything on it but what if i want some of the stuff on it? and its pretty fresh stuff?

reefscape15 · 07/24/2009, 03:49 AM

Curing the rock does not involve killing everything on it. If that was the case, we would all be buying dry rock and there would be no point in live rock. If you cook/boil your rock then yes you are killing everything on it. If you let it sit and truely cure, most of the stuff will die, but there will be little collections of whatever is on there that will spread. You loose a lot at the start, but it all comes back after time.

Wolverine · 07/24/2009, 05:49 AM

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Originally posted by Cracken
Also i have aquestion but i kno curing live rock kills everything on it but what if i want some of the stuff on it? and its pretty fresh stuff?

It depends on what you're going to do to cure. If you cook it, yeah, that will kill most of what's on there. What I would do is just put it into a tank, bucket, or rubbermaid bin and let it cycle. Some people will do it with lights and skimmer, others don't bother. I don't have a strong feeling about it either way.

07/23/2009, 01:45 PM	#1
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07/23/2009, 04:29 PM	#6
shaginwagon13 Chartered Accountant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,219	I wouldnt add 10 pounds if you only have 30 pounds in there. I added 30 pounds to my tank but i had 270 pounds already in there. I wouldn't add more then 5 pounds at a time for your tank. __________________ - Shaginwagon - Current Tank Info: 550 Gallon SPS Reef l 200 Gallon Sump l Skimmer: Vertex Alpha 250 l Return Pump: Reeflo Hammerhead l Tank Circulation: (2) Maxspect Gyre XF280 l Lighting: (3) 400w Halides & (3) AI Hydra 52 HD

07/23/2009, 05:36 PM	#7
reefscape15 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Elmira Heights, NY Posts: 2,812	I'd add just one small piece at a time. Like what already has been said, you'd be adding another 1/3 of the total live rock you already have, and whats in there now will not be able to handle that large of an addition __________________ A new beginning........... JIM Current Tank Info: 5g standard softie/zoa tank, just starting a 20H

07/23/2009, 05:40 PM	#8
Wolverine RC Mod Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 17,732	I agree with the others, that much could cause problems. Either add the rock slowly, or, the other way you can do it is to cycle the new rock in a bucket or rubbermaid bin and then add it to the tank. __________________ Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. -Douglas Adams Current Tank Info: 14g, 29g nano reefs

07/23/2009, 06:43 PM	#9
1DeR9_3Hy Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,575	Small amounts is your best bet, but even then this is still not a good idea since you will be introducing a ton of nutrients from the die off that other wised could have been 'cooked' off. __________________ I hope it never catches on, I like having the oldest tank on here and I don't have to worry about calcification, bio pellets, Vodka dosing, DSBs, Chaetomorpha (I don't even know what that is) Carbonite hardness and all of these other things many people worry about. If I had to think about all of that stuff I would get a stroke. My test kit came in a wooden box and the directions say to keep in a cool chariott. I throw some food in the tank, wave hello to the fish and go out with my wife and have a nice glass of merlot with dinner. Have a great day but most of all, have fun. -PaulB Current Tank Info: 27 Gallon DAS softy/fish reef

07/23/2009, 01:52 PM	#2
abulgin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 2,664	1. How much uncured live rock? 2. What else is in the tank (e.g., sand, live rock, etc., and how much)? 3. How long as the tank been cycled?

07/23/2009, 02:00 PM	#3
Cracken Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 306	1. only about 5-10 lbs. 2. Already have bout 30 lbs of LR, Live sand 2 in. bed, And some fish. 3. the tank has been done with the cycle for almost a month. I kno i might get some bad things like bugs ect. I am gunna keep an eye on it all at night and try to rid my tank of the bad ones.

07/23/2009, 02:08 PM	#4
abulgin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 2,664	How big is the tank? I wouldn't worry about the bugs. Rather, I would worry about causing a second, major cycle, which will wipe out everything. If your tank is big, that's one thing, but my guess from your current live rock is that it's 30-40 gallons. 10 lbs of uncured live rock in such a small volume will probably nuke everything.

07/23/2009, 02:34 PM	#5
korth659 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 50	From what I have heard this amount of rock could cause a cycle.

07/23/2009, 07:59 PM	#10
Cracken Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 306	Its A 55 gallon tank so i should but cured liverock instead. Yea i kno i dont have alot of LR because i didnt feel like spending so much so quick so i decided i will slowly add and its more like 35 pounds of LR

07/23/2009, 08:04 PM	#11
Cracken Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 306	Also i have aquestion but i kno curing live rock kills everything on it but what if i want some of the stuff on it? and its pretty fresh stuff?

07/24/2009, 03:49 AM	#12
reefscape15 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Elmira Heights, NY Posts: 2,812	Curing the rock does not involve killing everything on it. If that was the case, we would all be buying dry rock and there would be no point in live rock. If you cook/boil your rock then yes you are killing everything on it. If you let it sit and truely cure, most of the stuff will die, but there will be little collections of whatever is on there that will spread. You loose a lot at the start, but it all comes back after time. __________________ A new beginning........... JIM Current Tank Info: 5g standard softie/zoa tank, just starting a 20H