Emergency - Coral Beauty Jumped At 8:40ish Found Him At 8:50

golby · 07/27/2009, 06:54 PM

Amazingly, he's breathing...barely

he was covered in dust, i panicked and gave him a quick freshwater bath (easier to grab freshwater) and about 20 seconds later, took some tank water and put it in a pot. He's in there now and he is breathing, but on his side/upside down.

I have no QT. Suggestions for what to do to help him?!

I remember seeing a fisher once in a catch and release program, holding the fish in front of running water, so I've been stirring the water a bit in front of him.

golby · 07/27/2009, 07:06 PM

No advice? 15 people have viewed...

z3r0ko0l · 07/27/2009, 07:08 PM

I would have tried to place him back in the tank... the fresh water rinse prob stressed him out even more, and to top it off the abrupt salinity change prob didn't do him any good either. Ive had a few jumpers and since run some kind of lid, but ive always just put em back in. Good luck!

sld123 · 07/27/2009, 07:12 PM

you could hold him in front of a small powerhead until it revives him i had to do it once with a fish and it worked although it took awhile when he gets his strength back you will be able to feel it trying to swim from your hand it does take some time

sld123 · 07/27/2009, 07:13 PM

ps. you want to hold the fish face first in front of the powerhead and not to close

sanababit · 07/27/2009, 07:29 PM

how do you know it jump out a 840ish and you found him at 850, ~10 minutes is a long time, anyways, get him in some tank water, get a power head and an air stone in there, the freshwater dip might have stressed him even more, hope he makes it, good luck

sana

golby · 07/27/2009, 07:31 PM

I know it was about 840...because the cat was oddly paying interest to the back of the tank, but then the dog chased her and I thought perhaps they were playing and she cornered herself. Then I noticed that I hadn't seen the coral beauty and that the cat went back over to look at the back of the tank. that's when i got up and found him...he's in my DT now...not looking too good. Eyes are clouded over and he's not swimming. He's breathing regularly though...

Stanley-Reefer · 07/27/2009, 07:31 PM

Throw it back in the tank._ I had a pyramid butterfly jump flop in dust and doghair, I threw him back in hair and all. The other fish acted like it was a new addition and harrassed him but he was okay.He was probably out two minutes.

raen · 07/27/2009, 07:43 PM

He can make it. My tang had a VERY close call with the "Light", and made a beautiful recovery......a year later, still doing very well. Good luck buddy!

919 · 07/27/2009, 08:25 PM

Got my fingers crossed, make sure to give the cat some tuna tonight for saving the day...

golby · 07/27/2009, 08:38 PM

Well, I held him in front of the powerhead (at a safe distance) and he had enough juice to swim a few inches at a time. But after about an hour and a half, he wasn't getting any better. I tried holding him near the powerhead one last time to bring some fresh oxygen, but he just died.

mullinsd2 · 07/27/2009, 09:22 PM

Sorry to hear that. I just got a coral beauty recently...

Shane Hoffman · 07/27/2009, 09:57 PM

Sorry for your loss man......jumpers suck....its a toss up between ehstetics of open top and security of a lid...I take the risk of open top but I have a light fixture thats 12 inches wide only 5 inches off the water...it offers some protection.....now that I think about it I may go get a lid tomorrow. Looking at my tank now that my fish are all full grown I amnguessing I have 7 or 8 hundred bucks worth of fish in there and my emperor I could pry sell for 150 alone....I would be pi%%$d if he went carpet surfing....

ReeferChick85 · 07/27/2009, 10:52 PM

Aww that sucks about your fish

Sorry about your loss. I didn't know those types of fishes were known for jumping. Some type of cover or netting would be great just to avoid another tragedy

NexDog · 07/27/2009, 11:26 PM

Piece of mind:

Over the years I've lost 3 Anthias. a Heniochus and a male Clarki clownfish I had 4 years. There are probably others that I don't recall. Losing the male Clarki did it for me, I was totally gutted. Luckily my female accepted a new male and they've been together a few weeks now.

When I moved house and subsequently moved fish from a 50g to the 340 my Coral Beauty jumped out the bucket it was being transported in. I left in the porch, came back and found it on the floor. It was 5-10 minutes - not really sure. That was 3 and a half years ago and it's still with me now. Sorry for your loss, man. Get a cover.

BuddhaKiss · 07/28/2009, 12:55 AM

That's a bummer. I had a glass top when I had my 58G, but I hated constantly cleaning the glass due to light obstruction. When I upgraded to a 90G I ran an open top. And had a firefish jump. After that I went with eggcrate and got a flasher wrasse. It lasted about 2 months before it jumped thru the eggcrate. I got another one. He lasted a week before he jumped. Eggcrate is suppose to help with jumpers...not in my case. I now use bird netting instead of the eggcrate b/c its not as unsightly, but i give up on fish that are "known" jumpers

z3r0ko0l · 07/28/2009, 01:01 AM

Man sorry for your loss... Id also like to suggest egg-crate. Its cheap and works well.

golby · 07/28/2009, 07:17 AM

Yeah, as soon as I have time, I'll be making a trip to home depot to explore egg crate and perhaps some other options. I don't think I'll put it straight over the tank though...my canopy has me covered on three sides so I think that I'm going to put it on the fourth side (vertically on the wall side of the tank). That way I don't lose any light.

kzickovich · 07/28/2009, 07:42 AM

I built a canopy without a top. A fish would have to jump almost eight inches to get out of the tank. I'm sure that a fish could make the jump but since I built it not one jumper.

07/27/2009, 06:54 PM	#1
golby Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 242	Emergency - Coral Beauty Jumped At 8:40ish Found Him At 8:50 Amazingly, he's breathing...barely he was covered in dust, i panicked and gave him a quick freshwater bath (easier to grab freshwater) and about 20 seconds later, took some tank water and put it in a pot. He's in there now and he is breathing, but on his side/upside down. I have no QT. Suggestions for what to do to help him?! I remember seeing a fisher once in a catch and release program, holding the fish in front of running water, so I've been stirring the water a bit in front of him. __________________ Unless I explicitly state otherwise, assume that I have tested my parameters recently and they are: Temp: 80F Salt: 1.023-1.024 pH: 8.2 Amm: 0 'trite: 0 'trate: 0 Phosphate: 0 Copper: 0 Calcium: 360-420 dkH: 9 Current Tank Info: 90g internal overflow; 30g sump; ~325 Watts 6500K CFL bulbs; 100 lbs LR; mixed reef with LPS (frogspawn, torch, trumpet and bubble) and softies (leathers, mushrooms and lots of zoas)

07/27/2009, 07:06 PM	#2
golby Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 242	No advice? 15 people have viewed... __________________ Unless I explicitly state otherwise, assume that I have tested my parameters recently and they are: Temp: 80F Salt: 1.023-1.024 pH: 8.2 Amm: 0 'trite: 0 'trate: 0 Phosphate: 0 Copper: 0 Calcium: 360-420 dkH: 9 Current Tank Info: 90g internal overflow; 30g sump; ~325 Watts 6500K CFL bulbs; 100 lbs LR; mixed reef with LPS (frogspawn, torch, trumpet and bubble) and softies (leathers, mushrooms and lots of zoas)

07/27/2009, 07:29 PM	#6
sanababit Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Uranus Posts: 3,094	how do you know it jump out a 840ish and you found him at 850, ~10 minutes is a long time, anyways, get him in some tank water, get a power head and an air stone in there, the freshwater dip might have stressed him even more, hope he makes it, good luck sana __________________ Senior Member of the "Hardly any Water Changes, Temp Swinging, T5ing, No Qtining, Frag Exchanging for Fish Food Current Tank Info: 90RR inwall, Octopuss Skimmer, 2 MP40 wQD, 1 MP10 WQD, 2 Radions G4 Pro, Apex Doser, Apex Controller, 400w heater, 30 Gal Sump, Biopellets, Carbon, Gfo, Macroalgae

07/27/2009, 07:31 PM	#7
golby Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 242	I know it was about 840...because the cat was oddly paying interest to the back of the tank, but then the dog chased her and I thought perhaps they were playing and she cornered herself. Then I noticed that I hadn't seen the coral beauty and that the cat went back over to look at the back of the tank. that's when i got up and found him...he's in my DT now...not looking too good. Eyes are clouded over and he's not swimming. He's breathing regularly though... __________________ Unless I explicitly state otherwise, assume that I have tested my parameters recently and they are: Temp: 80F Salt: 1.023-1.024 pH: 8.2 Amm: 0 'trite: 0 'trate: 0 Phosphate: 0 Copper: 0 Calcium: 360-420 dkH: 9 Current Tank Info: 90g internal overflow; 30g sump; ~325 Watts 6500K CFL bulbs; 100 lbs LR; mixed reef with LPS (frogspawn, torch, trumpet and bubble) and softies (leathers, mushrooms and lots of zoas)

07/27/2009, 07:43 PM	#9
raen Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3,084	He can make it. My tang had a VERY close call with the "Light", and made a beautiful recovery......a year later, still doing very well. Good luck buddy! __________________ Rae N. She wasn't wicked, she only liked the shoes!!! Current Tank Info: 60 Gall Hex, 3 #3's, no fuge..........YET!!!

07/27/2009, 07:08 PM	#3
z3r0ko0l Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: So. Cal Posts: 234	I would have tried to place him back in the tank... the fresh water rinse prob stressed him out even more, and to top it off the abrupt salinity change prob didn't do him any good either. Ive had a few jumpers and since run some kind of lid, but ive always just put em back in. Good luck!

07/27/2009, 07:12 PM	#4
sld123 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: plantation florida Posts: 51	you could hold him in front of a small powerhead until it revives him i had to do it once with a fish and it worked although it took awhile when he gets his strength back you will be able to feel it trying to swim from your hand it does take some time

07/27/2009, 07:13 PM	#5
sld123 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: plantation florida Posts: 51	ps. you want to hold the fish face first in front of the powerhead and not to close

07/27/2009, 07:31 PM	#8
Stanley-Reefer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Stanley, NC Posts: 1,933	Throw it back in the tank._ I had a pyramid butterfly jump flop in dust and doghair, I threw him back in hair and all. The other fish acted like it was a new addition and harrassed him but he was okay.He was probably out two minutes.

07/27/2009, 08:25 PM	#10
919 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 84	Got my fingers crossed, make sure to give the cat some tuna tonight for saving the day...

07/27/2009, 08:38 PM	#11
golby Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 242	Well, I held him in front of the powerhead (at a safe distance) and he had enough juice to swim a few inches at a time. But after about an hour and a half, he wasn't getting any better. I tried holding him near the powerhead one last time to bring some fresh oxygen, but he just died. __________________ Unless I explicitly state otherwise, assume that I have tested my parameters recently and they are: Temp: 80F Salt: 1.023-1.024 pH: 8.2 Amm: 0 'trite: 0 'trate: 0 Phosphate: 0 Copper: 0 Calcium: 360-420 dkH: 9 Current Tank Info: 90g internal overflow; 30g sump; ~325 Watts 6500K CFL bulbs; 100 lbs LR; mixed reef with LPS (frogspawn, torch, trumpet and bubble) and softies (leathers, mushrooms and lots of zoas)

07/27/2009, 09:22 PM	#12
mullinsd2 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 753	Sorry to hear that. I just got a coral beauty recently...

07/27/2009, 09:57 PM	#13
Shane Hoffman Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: 45 mins from Chicago Posts: 2,009	Sorry for your loss man......jumpers suck....its a toss up between ehstetics of open top and security of a lid...I take the risk of open top but I have a light fixture thats 12 inches wide only 5 inches off the water...it offers some protection.....now that I think about it I may go get a lid tomorrow. Looking at my tank now that my fish are all full grown I amnguessing I have 7 or 8 hundred bucks worth of fish in there and my emperor I could pry sell for 150 alone....I would be pi%%$d if he went carpet surfing.... __________________ A wise man once said "Never play leap frog with a unicorn" Current Tank Info: 150 gallon glass with 20 gallon sump, 175lbs of coraline covered live rock, EuroReef skimmer rated for 250gal, 25watt Aqua UV sterilizer, Fluval FX5, Hamilton 3x250watt MH, 160 watt Blue actinic....Mixed reef

07/27/2009, 10:52 PM	#14
ReeferChick85 Moved On Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 894	Aww that sucks about your fish Sorry about your loss. I didn't know those types of fishes were known for jumping. Some type of cover or netting would be great just to avoid another tragedy

07/27/2009, 11:26 PM	#15
NexDog Snail Killer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kyushu, Japan Posts: 4,804	Piece of mind: Over the years I've lost 3 Anthias. a Heniochus and a male Clarki clownfish I had 4 years. There are probably others that I don't recall. Losing the male Clarki did it for me, I was totally gutted. Luckily my female accepted a new male and they've been together a few weeks now. When I moved house and subsequently moved fish from a 50g to the 340 my Coral Beauty jumped out the bucket it was being transported in. I left in the porch, came back and found it on the floor. It was 5-10 minutes - not really sure. That was 3 and a half years ago and it's still with me now. Sorry for your loss, man. Get a cover. __________________ Laurence Flynn 340g In-Wall Envision Tank and 150g Sump. Current Tank Info: Deltec 902, PFO hood with 3x400w Radium 20k and 4x96w PC's. Hammerhead closed loop - and 2 x Tunze 6105 (and Vortech still sucks).

07/28/2009, 12:55 AM	#16
BuddhaKiss Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Northern Va Posts: 1,068	That's a bummer. I had a glass top when I had my 58G, but I hated constantly cleaning the glass due to light obstruction. When I upgraded to a 90G I ran an open top. And had a firefish jump. After that I went with eggcrate and got a flasher wrasse. It lasted about 2 months before it jumped thru the eggcrate. I got another one. He lasted a week before he jumped. Eggcrate is suppose to help with jumpers...not in my case. I now use bird netting instead of the eggcrate b/c its not as unsightly, but i give up on fish that are "known" jumpers

07/28/2009, 01:01 AM	#17
z3r0ko0l Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: So. Cal Posts: 234	Man sorry for your loss... Id also like to suggest egg-crate. Its cheap and works well.

07/28/2009, 07:17 AM	#18
golby Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 242	Yeah, as soon as I have time, I'll be making a trip to home depot to explore egg crate and perhaps some other options. I don't think I'll put it straight over the tank though...my canopy has me covered on three sides so I think that I'm going to put it on the fourth side (vertically on the wall side of the tank). That way I don't lose any light. __________________ Unless I explicitly state otherwise, assume that I have tested my parameters recently and they are: Temp: 80F Salt: 1.023-1.024 pH: 8.2 Amm: 0 'trite: 0 'trate: 0 Phosphate: 0 Copper: 0 Calcium: 360-420 dkH: 9 Current Tank Info: 90g internal overflow; 30g sump; ~325 Watts 6500K CFL bulbs; 100 lbs LR; mixed reef with LPS (frogspawn, torch, trumpet and bubble) and softies (leathers, mushrooms and lots of zoas)

07/28/2009, 07:42 AM	#19
kzickovich Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Zion Il Posts: 959	I built a canopy without a top. A fish would have to jump almost eight inches to get out of the tank. I'm sure that a fish could make the jump but since I built it not one jumper. __________________ Ken Current Tank Info: 90 Gal mixed reef 55 Gallon basement pump up Sump 25 Gal fuge 2 Mp40 DIY led light fixture Bubble King Mini 200 Gen2 skimmer BRS Duel reactor