Marine fish won't live in artificial seawater!!!

murraycamp · 08/05/2009, 04:50 PM

I was at Home Despot today picking up some eggcrate and the dude helping me told me that saltwater fish will not live in artificial seawater.

It turns our he catches fish in Key Largo at his vacation place and then puts them in a cooler and comes back to Texas, but they won't live in his tank at home. I asked him if he checked salinity, temperature, cycled the tank, ect., and he looked at me like I had just sprouted a second head.

He just shook his head and told me that he is absolutely certain that marine fish cannot, under any circumstances, live in artificial seawater.

Just thought I would pass this along.

I am sure glad he told me because I guess all the fish living in our reef tanks aren't really marine fish, because marine fish will not live in artificial seawater. I had no idea I really had freshwater tanks.

I though about asking him his opinion about carbon supplementation to increase heterotrophic bacterial populations and its corresponding impact on scleractinian development, but since I am really raising non-marine fishes and invertebrates, I figured it didn't really matter.

They next question is: what do I do with all this salt mix?

lougotzz · 08/05/2009, 04:54 PM

Well, I would throw it out, its quite obvious that fish cant live in water with salt mix, a durrr.

Amoore311 · 08/05/2009, 05:00 PM

Figures....

Why couldn't I find out this info before I'm 7 Grand deep in this hobby.

NCSUsalt · 08/05/2009, 05:20 PM

i wanna know how the guy helping you at HD has a vacation place in key largo

demonboy369 · 08/05/2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by NCSUsalt
i wanna know how the guy helping you at HD has a vacation place in key largo

Yea really lol I cant afford a vacation in flordia haha

rendogg · 08/05/2009, 05:26 PM

Damn aquarium industry and it's money making shams!!!

murraycamp · 08/05/2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by NCSUsalt
i wanna know how the guy helping you at HD has a vacation place in key largo

That's a good question. I get the feeling its a trailer in an RV park (not that there is anything wrong with that).

It may be just that he's so dang smart.

murraycamp · 08/05/2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by lougotzz
Well, I would throw it out, its quite obvious that fish cant live in water with salt mix, a durrr.

Right!

murraycamp · 08/05/2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by rendogg
Damn aquarium industry and it's money making shams!!!

If we had only known. Next predicted revelation: Acroporids are really non-photosynthetic! The great HQI/T5 scam.

rendogg · 08/05/2009, 05:40 PM

Just when you thought you knew a thing or two and some guy at HD schools you, that must've been embarrassing. Oh well, I guess we still have some learning to do.....

Thanks for sharing!

Stanley-Reefer · 08/05/2009, 05:41 PM

Did he ask you if you really planned to carry eggs in the eggcrate you bought?

murraycamp · 08/05/2009, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by Stanley-Reefer
Did he ask you if you really planned to carry eggs in the eggcrate you bought?

No, but he did look at me funny. And I'm not THAT funny looking.

lougotzz · 08/05/2009, 06:01 PM

I was getting PVC at home depot for my 75, and I told the salesman what it was for. I had the plumber sales rep tell me, scratch that, assure me, that oscars were saltwater fish.

Also, I went to a different home depot a few weeks later looking to see if they had a diamond bit to drill the glass. I had the guy in the power tools area tell me to use a jig saw

Stanley-Reefer · 08/05/2009, 06:43 PM

There are "experts" in every hobby they're not in. I still run across guys running supercharged turbo cars putting down astronomical numbers running 11s

chilwil84 · 08/05/2009, 07:42 PM

try being in construction and listen to some of the crap that comes out of their mouths and they are in that industry.

Macimage · 08/05/2009, 08:25 PM

That is really funny. Thanks for posting. I better go check my tanks......

Joyce

DamnPepShrimp · 08/05/2009, 08:48 PM

Good thing he works at a HD and not a LFS.... wait, has he ever seen a fish store or aquarium before?

Agu · 08/05/2009, 08:49 PM

He's only quoting his experience. All his fish die so it must be the salt mix. It couldn't be anything else

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Aqua Keepers · 08/05/2009, 10:18 PM

This guy is the reason *self checkout* is gaining popularity.

Tswifty · 08/05/2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by NCSUsalt
i wanna know how the guy helping you at HD has a vacation place in key largo

That's great... sig line worthy.

sanchoy · 08/05/2009, 11:05 PM

Ask the guy..

What does this have to do with the tea price in India?

Than walk away... hahhaha.. gets them all the time.

Puffdragon · 08/06/2009, 09:43 AM

Poor guy must have read the great "April Fools" thread and got Kosher salt with iodine.

jadeguppy · 08/06/2009, 11:13 AM

That is funny. I live minutes from the beach and around here people tend to swear that sw fish can't live in natural sw, you must use artificial no matter what.

Katmanblue · 08/06/2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by Aqua Keepers
This guy is the reason *self checkout* is gaining popularity.

LOL...

Murray, I guess you can just use your salt now for cooking....that way you dont have to supplement your daily intake of trace elements...

sikpupy · 08/06/2009, 11:35 AM

I've been dupped!!

08/05/2009, 04:50 PM	#1
murraycamp Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 492	Marine fish won't live in artificial seawater!!! I was at Home Despot today picking up some eggcrate and the dude helping me told me that saltwater fish will not live in artificial seawater. It turns our he catches fish in Key Largo at his vacation place and then puts them in a cooler and comes back to Texas, but they won't live in his tank at home. I asked him if he checked salinity, temperature, cycled the tank, ect., and he looked at me like I had just sprouted a second head. He just shook his head and told me that he is absolutely certain that marine fish cannot, under any circumstances, live in artificial seawater. Just thought I would pass this along. I am sure glad he told me because I guess all the fish living in our reef tanks aren't really marine fish, because marine fish will not live in artificial seawater. I had no idea I really had freshwater tanks. I though about asking him his opinion about carbon supplementation to increase heterotrophic bacterial populations and its corresponding impact on scleractinian development, but since I am really raising non-marine fishes and invertebrates, I figured it didn't really matter. They next question is: what do I do with all this salt mix? __________________ Murray Current Tank Info: 65 gal. E. Quadricolor/A. Barberi system (VCV/inoculant); 60 gal. gorgonian/mixed scleratinian (VCV/ inoculant/solid polymers); 30 gal. Oxymonacanthus longirostris/octocoral system (VCV/inoculant); 80 gal Acropora (Zeovit); 27 gal. jellyfish system

08/05/2009, 05:00 PM	#3
Amoore311 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ulster County, NY Posts: 2,521	Figures.... Why couldn't I find out this info before I'm 7 Grand deep in this hobby. __________________ 30 Gallon FOWLR 2004-2006 90 Gallon LPS Reef 2006-2008 180 Gallon SPS Reef 2008-20012 100 Gallon Custom Rimless Mixed Reef 2012-2014 29 Gallon Biocube Reef! Current Current Tank Info: 29 Gallon Biocube, StevesLED Upgrade, Neptune Apex

08/05/2009, 08:49 PM	#18
Agu Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Sarasota, Florida Posts: 30,279	He's only quoting his experience. All his fish die so it must be the salt mix. It couldn't be anything else . __________________ Less technology , more biology . Current Tank Info: 30 gallon half cube and 5.5, both reef tanks

08/05/2009, 11:05 PM	#21
sanchoy Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Close to the ocean Posts: 1,026	Ask the guy.. What does this have to do with the tea price in India? Than walk away... hahhaha.. gets them all the time. __________________ 250 gallon.. tangs are the best.. the po po is not. Current Tank Info: 250 reef

08/06/2009, 09:43 AM	#22
Puffdragon Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 297	Poor guy must have read the great "April Fools" thread and got Kosher salt with iodine. __________________ The definition of an expert "Someone who has done something for so long that they can not see a new way to do things." Current Tank Info: 350 gallon mixed reef system

08/05/2009, 04:54 PM	#2
lougotzz Moved On Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: PA Posts: 1,524	Well, I would throw it out, its quite obvious that fish cant live in water with salt mix, a durrr.

08/05/2009, 05:20 PM	#4
NCSUsalt Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: raleigh, NC Posts: 619	i wanna know how the guy helping you at HD has a vacation place in key largo

08/05/2009, 05:26 PM	#6
rendogg Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Abbotsford, B.C. Posts: 578	Damn aquarium industry and it's money making shams!!!

08/05/2009, 05:40 PM	#10
rendogg Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Abbotsford, B.C. Posts: 578	Just when you thought you knew a thing or two and some guy at HD schools you, that must've been embarrassing. Oh well, I guess we still have some learning to do..... Thanks for sharing!

08/05/2009, 05:41 PM	#11
Stanley-Reefer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Stanley, NC Posts: 1,933	Did he ask you if you really planned to carry eggs in the eggcrate you bought?

08/05/2009, 06:01 PM	#13
lougotzz Moved On Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: PA Posts: 1,524	I was getting PVC at home depot for my 75, and I told the salesman what it was for. I had the plumber sales rep tell me, scratch that, assure me, that oscars were saltwater fish. Also, I went to a different home depot a few weeks later looking to see if they had a diamond bit to drill the glass. I had the guy in the power tools area tell me to use a jig saw

08/05/2009, 06:43 PM	#14
Stanley-Reefer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Stanley, NC Posts: 1,933	There are "experts" in every hobby they're not in. I still run across guys running supercharged turbo cars putting down astronomical numbers running 11s

08/05/2009, 07:42 PM	#15
chilwil84 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: down the shore Posts: 780	try being in construction and listen to some of the crap that comes out of their mouths and they are in that industry.

08/05/2009, 08:25 PM	#16
Macimage Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Quartz Hill Posts: 4,078	That is really funny. Thanks for posting. I better go check my tanks...... Joyce

08/05/2009, 08:48 PM	#17
DamnPepShrimp Moved On Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 5,152	Good thing he works at a HD and not a LFS.... wait, has he ever seen a fish store or aquarium before?

08/05/2009, 10:18 PM	#19
Aqua Keepers Moved On Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Clearwater,Fl Posts: 2,915	This guy is the reason self checkout is gaining popularity.

08/06/2009, 11:13 AM	#23
jadeguppy Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: nw Florida Posts: 2,611	That is funny. I live minutes from the beach and around here people tend to swear that sw fish can't live in natural sw, you must use artificial no matter what.

08/06/2009, 11:35 AM	#25
sikpupy Moved On Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,431	I've been dupped!!