Bad batch or bad product?

ackee · 10/31/2009, 06:57 PM

A friend of mine recently had his entire sw tankwiped out. He tells me he did a water change in his aquarium using a product I've seen around but have never used. This product claims that it is bottled pure natural seawater, but also suggests that there are some additives that make it even better. In any case, all his fish died within minutes of using this product, leaving little doubt as to cause and effect. I should point out that he has been any extremely successful aquarist for about 40 years. I remember the Rock Beauty he maintained for 12 years, and the many species he has bred. He understands things like pH and specific gravity
I wonder if some toxin was either accidentally introduced or formed in the bottle in which this stuff is sold. Has anyone else had a similar experience?

I can recall a bottled seawater product that was available back in the 60s which was supposed to be concentrated seawater, to be mixed with a quantity of fresh water. I didn't use it, preferring to use Rila Salts, the only brand available until products like Instant Ocean came along. Unless you live someplace where the local water is of poor quality, buying water in plastic bottles to drink is environmentally harmful and an incredible waste of money. I've seen garbage landfills with vast quantities of empty personal water bottles that will remain intact for centuries.
I suspect bottled seawater is also a questionable idea. More plastic and heavy transportation (fossil fuel) costs. High quality salt mixes will maintain virtually anything.

BLKTANG · 10/31/2009, 06:58 PM

NutriSeawater?

ackee · 10/31/2009, 07:16 PM

That's what he said he used. The product that claims it's 'live' natural seawater. I'm not sure what that means, unless it is an attempt to classify the product in a consumer's mind with live rock and live sand.

luther1200 · 10/31/2009, 07:23 PM

I used it several times with no ill affects. In fact i know a guy who sets up a booth for some shows like MACNA and that what they used, because they got it donated. They never had problems either.

spamreefnew · 10/31/2009, 07:35 PM

i used it once when my ro was on the fritz,no ill effects

10/31/2009, 06:57 PM	#1
ackee Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 421	Bad batch or bad product? A friend of mine recently had his entire sw tankwiped out. He tells me he did a water change in his aquarium using a product I've seen around but have never used. This product claims that it is bottled pure natural seawater, but also suggests that there are some additives that make it even better. In any case, all his fish died within minutes of using this product, leaving little doubt as to cause and effect. I should point out that he has been any extremely successful aquarist for about 40 years. I remember the Rock Beauty he maintained for 12 years, and the many species he has bred. He understands things like pH and specific gravity I wonder if some toxin was either accidentally introduced or formed in the bottle in which this stuff is sold. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I can recall a bottled seawater product that was available back in the 60s which was supposed to be concentrated seawater, to be mixed with a quantity of fresh water. I didn't use it, preferring to use Rila Salts, the only brand available until products like Instant Ocean came along. Unless you live someplace where the local water is of poor quality, buying water in plastic bottles to drink is environmentally harmful and an incredible waste of money. I've seen garbage landfills with vast quantities of empty personal water bottles that will remain intact for centuries. I suspect bottled seawater is also a questionable idea. More plastic and heavy transportation (fossil fuel) costs. High quality salt mixes will maintain virtually anything.

10/31/2009, 06:58 PM	#2
BLKTANG Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Never,Never Land Posts: 7,061	NutriSeawater? __________________ We the few have done so much,for so long,for so little.That we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. ____________________________________________________________________________ Current Tank Info: RR 90 Maganvore sump,250w Hamilton fixture,VorTec's ASM skimmer.

10/31/2009, 07:23 PM	#4
luther1200 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NJ, shore Posts: 4,376	I used it several times with no ill affects. In fact i know a guy who sets up a booth for some shows like MACNA and that what they used, because they got it donated. They never had problems either. __________________ Matt, 65G reef tank Current Tank Info: 65g reef, mix of sps, lps, few softies. Hoping to upgrade within the year.

10/31/2009, 07:16 PM	#3
ackee Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 421	That's what he said he used. The product that claims it's 'live' natural seawater. I'm not sure what that means, unless it is an attempt to classify the product in a consumer's mind with live rock and live sand.

10/31/2009, 07:35 PM	#5
spamreefnew Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: rhodeisland Posts: 1,491	i used it once when my ro was on the fritz,no ill effects