LOUD filter sock.

westwind1124 · 11/19/2009, 05:58 PM

Ok so the filter sock itself isn't loud just the pipe inside it that's loud. Any input on what to do to stop it from making that noise like you are blowing through a straw in your chocolate milk (what...doesn't everyone do that?). I have tried it just above the water, just under the water, way under the water, and no help.

B-Willz · 11/19/2009, 06:18 PM

The problem is probably coming from your stand pipe, pulling air in an sending the bublles in your sump. Look up a durso stand pipe and build one, they are really quite things down and its under 10 bucks for parts from the hardware store.

westwind1124 · 11/19/2009, 06:58 PM

I already have the durso...its been in since I got the tank 10 months ago. The stand pipe is quiet its just down in my sump where it comes into the water that I am having the noise. You are right though, it is the air being pulled down but I don't know what to do to stop that.

fish crazy · 11/19/2009, 07:56 PM

OK what I did was put rock in the sump just below the filter sock & it helped to deaden the splashing sound. Also I added a ply wood back to the stand. If it doesnt affect your protein skimmer you may try to raise the water level in the sump. Check my pics click on my avatar to see my sump.

westwind1124 · 11/19/2009, 08:39 PM

OK I get the rock and plywood but what would the higher water level do for me. The problem I am having is basically air bubbling up inside my sock so I don't see that deeper water would improve thing. It seems to me that I need to bleed the air off some how before it reaches the sum but I have no idea how to do that. AWESOME tank BTW.

james3370 · 11/19/2009, 08:41 PM

have you tried having it enter the sump at a 45 degree angle, so the water is running down the wall of the pipe into the water instead of "falling" into the water?

westwind1124 · 11/19/2009, 08:46 PM

No I haven't. Problem is I would have to redo my plumbing but I may have no other choice. Would I want my down pipe completly submereged or the opening half in and half out

fish crazy · 11/19/2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by westwind1124

OK I get the rock and plywood but what would the higher water level do for me. The problem I am having is basically air bubbling up inside my sock so I don't see that deeper water would improve thing. It seems to me that I need to bleed the air off some how before it reaches the sum but I have no idea how to do that. AWESOME tank BTW.

does the pipe drop straight down , if so put a 90 at the end of the pipe/pic would be helpful. I am trying to understand if the air is coming from the pipe or when the flow of water from the pipe hits the water in the sump that creates the bubbling or is it foaming . Also I think I read U have a durso stand pipe if so & it has a cap on it U can drill a hole in the cap & place a piece of RO line in it to go above the water line that could solve that kind of air problem . I will post a pic of mine if it is the same as yours it will help . Give me sec & Ill post it for ya hope it helps.

james3370 · 11/19/2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by westwind1124

No I haven't. Problem is I would have to redo my plumbing but I may have no other choice. Would I want my down pipe completly submereged or the opening half in and half out

you can always cut it above the waterline & put a 45 on it & then play w/ pipe length from there as far as exiting above or below the waterline.

if it ends up not doing any good, they make slip/slip pvc couplers to put a new straight piece back on....no harm no foul LOL

also since it isn't under pressure, you don't really have to glue the plumbing for an overflow....just press the fitting/pvc pipe together real firm & that should be plenty to keep it from leaking

_88 · 11/19/2009, 09:31 PM

Drill a couple of holes in drain pipe in the sump (above the water line) to let the air out.

sfboarders · 11/19/2009, 09:56 PM

Reverse Durso will quiet the drain noise.

fish crazy · 11/19/2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sfboarders

Reverse Durso will quiet the drain noise.

I think that will solve his problem

westwind1124 · 11/20/2009, 01:14 PM

I tried the reverse durso and no help there....worse in fact. It apparently has enough down flow that it completely fills the durso to the point that it turns the hole on top into a fountain. I tried drilling some holes around the pipe and that just turned the noise from a loud bubbling noise to a loud waterfall type sound.

I put a down pipe with no holes in that was long enough to reach to about 1 inch above the bottom and that seemed to quiet it down quite a bit. Seems strange to me but I would have thought the durso would have been the way to go but I think I will just leave it the way it is.

westwind1124 · 11/20/2009, 01:17 PM

oh yeah I also did notice that when I had the shorter pipe on, the bubbles were quite large (golf ball size). Now they are MUCH smaller, almost skimmer size so my guess is the longer pipe allows the bubbles to "break" up a little more. It make more of a fizzy sound now, which in turn is much more quiet.

Newreeflady · 11/20/2009, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westwind1124

I already have the durso...its been in since I got the tank 10 months ago. The stand pipe is quiet its just down in my sump where it comes into the water that I am having the noise. You are right though, it is the air being pulled down but I don't know what to do to stop that.

What you want to do is run the line to the following setup:

Water in
| |
| |
| _____
| air out to connector hose above water line to prevent splashing & bubbling.
| __________
| |
| |
| |water out (with tiny amt of residual bubbles, virtually silent)

disclosure: I think i got this from Stan, this is not my idea but I've used it and it works well with the durso!

-A

sfboarders · 11/20/2009, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westwind1124

I tried the reverse durso and no help there....worse in fact. It apparently has enough down flow that it completely fills the durso to the point that it turns the hole on top into a fountain. I tried drilling some holes around the pipe and that just turned the noise from a loud bubbling noise to a loud waterfall type sound.

I put a down pipe with no holes in that was long enough to reach to about 1 inch above the bottom and that seemed to quiet it down quite a bit. Seems strange to me but I would have thought the durso would have been the way to go but I think I will just leave it the way it is.

What size pipe did you use? The bigger diameter pipe and longer the run will slow the water down which will quiet the drain noise going into your sump. Add the sock and you will have no bubbles. I had drain noise issues (sounded like a jacuzzi) and did a reverse durso using 2" pipe with sock and nothing now. The only thing you can hear in my tank is the water coming out of my skimmer.

westwind1124 · 11/20/2009, 03:53 PM

Its 1 inch all the way to the sump. It comes out of the bottom and makes a big curl ( like the bottom half of an S) into a 1 inch 45 then about a twelve inch down pipe inside my sock. Going up to a 2 inch would make for alot of rework for me. It seems ok since I put that longer pipe in but I will see how it goes for a week or so and if it gets loud again I will just have to rework everything.

11/19/2009, 05:58 PM	#1
westwind1124 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Syracuse, IN Posts: 166	LOUD filter sock. Ok so the filter sock itself isn't loud just the pipe inside it that's loud. Any input on what to do to stop it from making that noise like you are blowing through a straw in your chocolate milk (what...doesn't everyone do that?). I have tried it just above the water, just under the water, way under the water, and no help.

11/19/2009, 08:41 PM	#6
james3370 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: US ARMY - El Paso TX Posts: 3,678	have you tried having it enter the sump at a 45 degree angle, so the water is running down the wall of the pipe into the water instead of "falling" into the water? __________________ Yes I hear voices in my head, but they speak spanish so I can't understand anything they say. there's no place like 127.0.0.1 It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful.... Current Tank Info: currently tankless....but planning an AIO

11/19/2009, 06:18 PM	#2
B-Willz Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Aurora Co Posts: 420	The problem is probably coming from your stand pipe, pulling air in an sending the bublles in your sump. Look up a durso stand pipe and build one, they are really quite things down and its under 10 bucks for parts from the hardware store.

11/19/2009, 06:58 PM	#3
westwind1124 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Syracuse, IN Posts: 166	I already have the durso...its been in since I got the tank 10 months ago. The stand pipe is quiet its just down in my sump where it comes into the water that I am having the noise. You are right though, it is the air being pulled down but I don't know what to do to stop that.

11/19/2009, 07:56 PM	#4
fish crazy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 248	OK what I did was put rock in the sump just below the filter sock & it helped to deaden the splashing sound. Also I added a ply wood back to the stand. If it doesnt affect your protein skimmer you may try to raise the water level in the sump. Check my pics click on my avatar to see my sump.

11/19/2009, 08:39 PM	#5
westwind1124 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Syracuse, IN Posts: 166	OK I get the rock and plywood but what would the higher water level do for me. The problem I am having is basically air bubbling up inside my sock so I don't see that deeper water would improve thing. It seems to me that I need to bleed the air off some how before it reaches the sum but I have no idea how to do that. AWESOME tank BTW.

11/19/2009, 08:46 PM	#7
westwind1124 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Syracuse, IN Posts: 166	No I haven't. Problem is I would have to redo my plumbing but I may have no other choice. Would I want my down pipe completly submereged or the opening half in and half out

11/19/2009, 09:31 PM	#10
_88 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 107	Drill a couple of holes in drain pipe in the sump (above the water line) to let the air out.

11/19/2009, 09:56 PM	#11
sfboarders Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: 808 State Posts: 1,356	Reverse Durso will quiet the drain noise.

11/20/2009, 01:14 PM	#13
westwind1124 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Syracuse, IN Posts: 166	I tried the reverse durso and no help there....worse in fact. It apparently has enough down flow that it completely fills the durso to the point that it turns the hole on top into a fountain. I tried drilling some holes around the pipe and that just turned the noise from a loud bubbling noise to a loud waterfall type sound. I put a down pipe with no holes in that was long enough to reach to about 1 inch above the bottom and that seemed to quiet it down quite a bit. Seems strange to me but I would have thought the durso would have been the way to go but I think I will just leave it the way it is.

11/20/2009, 01:17 PM	#14
westwind1124 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Syracuse, IN Posts: 166	oh yeah I also did notice that when I had the shorter pipe on, the bubbles were quite large (golf ball size). Now they are MUCH smaller, almost skimmer size so my guess is the longer pipe allows the bubbles to "break" up a little more. It make more of a fizzy sound now, which in turn is much more quiet.

11/20/2009, 03:53 PM	#17
westwind1124 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Syracuse, IN Posts: 166	Its 1 inch all the way to the sump. It comes out of the bottom and makes a big curl ( like the bottom half of an S) into a 1 inch 45 then about a twelve inch down pipe inside my sock. Going up to a 2 inch would make for alot of rework for me. It seems ok since I put that longer pipe in but I will see how it goes for a week or so and if it gets loud again I will just have to rework everything.