what Angel and butterfly is reef safe

jarrett shark · 11/29/2009, 07:52 PM

looking to get both of these fish but not sure if reef safe,

I have a 220 gal

1 small hippo tang
1 tommi tang
1 coral bandit shrimp
1 cleaner shrimp

open to all offers

I have sps and Lps

damseldude · 11/30/2009, 12:10 AM

The copperband butterfly should be a safe bet. Mine has never nipped at any of my sps or lps.

jarrett shark · 11/30/2009, 06:23 AM

bump anybody on angels?

jusn317 · 11/30/2009, 06:31 AM

As far as angels go you'll want to look at the genicanthus family. With that size tank you could definitely do a male/female pair, or maybe a small harem of females and a male. I have a male swallowtail at the moment and its a great looking fish. Unfortunately my female didn't make it.

Chihuahua6 · 11/30/2009, 06:34 AM

Yellow Pyramid Butterflyfish! They're gorgeous and safe. They're open water planktivores in the wild, not rock pickers. You can keep them in groups too. They do consume massive amounts of food so keep that in mind.

gskidmor · 11/30/2009, 07:35 AM

potter's angel is mostly an algae eater (according to the latest edition or Coral magazine)

d3rryc · 11/30/2009, 04:56 PM

The flame angel and coral beauty are usually considered the "safest" Centropyge angels if you're interested in the dwarfs. My coral beauty has never bothered anything in my tank. Just be aware that this is all rough guidelines. I've heard of flames that wreaked havoc, and of bicolors (which are generally notorious nippers) that are model citizens. Do your research, cross your fingers and have a removal strategy if the new recruit gets frisky.

littlebigaj · 11/30/2009, 05:18 PM

Bump on this thread as I am also interested in answers to this question. I learned the hard way and had to get rid of my Koran angel.

luther1200 · 11/30/2009, 05:40 PM

Flame Angles are absolutely not reef safe. I had 1 that didn't touch any coral for almost a year. Then he decimated my LPS and SPS. He killed a Stylophora, Superman Monti, and almost killed my Acan,Favia, and Micromussa.

Banshee · 11/30/2009, 06:23 PM

I have a flame angel, potter's angel and copperband butterfly fish....no problems so far...been about a year.

falconut · 11/30/2009, 06:29 PM

I've had Watanbei Angels, Swallowtail Angels (aka Blackspot), Lamark Angel, and a Flame Angel in my mixed reef. The only one that I've even seen nip is the flame. He took care of my Xenia and I believe he picks at some of the others, just not enough to kill them.

I had a Pyramid Butterfly, which was fine, but I only had him for a few months. I've had my Copperband for about 4 months and he hasn't touched anything.

11/29/2009, 07:52 PM	#1
jarrett shark Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,518	what Angel and butterfly is reef safe looking to get both of these fish but not sure if reef safe, I have a 220 gal 1 small hippo tang 1 tommi tang 1 coral bandit shrimp 1 cleaner shrimp open to all offers I have sps and Lps __________________ President of "NY REEF CLUB" OFFICE 300gal SPS reef tank with 400gal sump,150 GAL Frag tank,30gal frag= 890gal total HOUSE 400gal reef tank with 250gal sump = coming soon. 5x3x3 with 1" think acryli

11/30/2009, 06:23 AM	#3
jarrett shark Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,518	bump anybody on angels? __________________ President of "NY REEF CLUB" OFFICE 300gal SPS reef tank with 400gal sump,150 GAL Frag tank,30gal frag= 890gal total HOUSE 400gal reef tank with 250gal sump = coming soon. 5x3x3 with 1" think acryli

11/30/2009, 06:34 AM	#5
Chihuahua6 Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Hempstead, NY Posts: 2,124	Yellow Pyramid Butterflyfish! They're gorgeous and safe. They're open water planktivores in the wild, not rock pickers. You can keep them in groups too. They do consume massive amounts of food so keep that in mind. __________________ Leah Amanda Current Tank Info: First salt tank 1985, current tank 150 g acrylic

11/30/2009, 07:35 AM	#6
gskidmor Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 790	potter's angel is mostly an algae eater (according to the latest edition or Coral magazine) __________________ Jerry

11/30/2009, 05:40 PM	#9
luther1200 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NJ, shore Posts: 4,376	Flame Angles are absolutely not reef safe. I had 1 that didn't touch any coral for almost a year. Then he decimated my LPS and SPS. He killed a Stylophora, Superman Monti, and almost killed my Acan,Favia, and Micromussa. __________________ Matt, 65G reef tank Current Tank Info: 65g reef, mix of sps, lps, few softies. Hoping to upgrade within the year.

11/30/2009, 12:10 AM	#2
damseldude Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: minnesota Posts: 50	The copperband butterfly should be a safe bet. Mine has never nipped at any of my sps or lps.

11/30/2009, 06:31 AM	#4
jusn317 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 272	As far as angels go you'll want to look at the genicanthus family. With that size tank you could definitely do a male/female pair, or maybe a small harem of females and a male. I have a male swallowtail at the moment and its a great looking fish. Unfortunately my female didn't make it.

11/30/2009, 04:56 PM	#7
d3rryc Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 213	The flame angel and coral beauty are usually considered the "safest" Centropyge angels if you're interested in the dwarfs. My coral beauty has never bothered anything in my tank. Just be aware that this is all rough guidelines. I've heard of flames that wreaked havoc, and of bicolors (which are generally notorious nippers) that are model citizens. Do your research, cross your fingers and have a removal strategy if the new recruit gets frisky.

11/30/2009, 05:18 PM	#8
littlebigaj Registered Member. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Orlando Posts: 136	Bump on this thread as I am also interested in answers to this question. I learned the hard way and had to get rid of my Koran angel.

11/30/2009, 06:23 PM	#10
Banshee Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 30	I have a flame angel, potter's angel and copperband butterfly fish....no problems so far...been about a year.

11/30/2009, 06:29 PM	#11
falconut Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Blackwood, NJ Posts: 3,813	I've had Watanbei Angels, Swallowtail Angels (aka Blackspot), Lamark Angel, and a Flame Angel in my mixed reef. The only one that I've even seen nip is the flame. He took care of my Xenia and I believe he picks at some of the others, just not enough to kill them. I had a Pyramid Butterfly, which was fine, but I only had him for a few months. I've had my Copperband for about 4 months and he hasn't touched anything.