fish recommendations???

SAZAMA · 12/21/2009, 12:45 AM

help a brotha out. ive got a newer 30g mixed reef,no top with 250watt 20k, back overflow 3inch sand bed, 40lbs LR,with baby 3 clowns(less than inch), a damsels, and 2 peppermint shrimps. and I am looking to add a new fish. but not a ton of pods yet.would love something that stay around the bottom. jawfish,goby, anything CHEERS

wickedfish · 12/21/2009, 01:28 AM

Well check it out my brotha from anotha mutha. For a 30g tank and have 3 baby clowns that are going to grow a damsel and 2 peppermint shrimp. Your pretty much set. Unless, your going to overstock. Just my opinion.

Chiefsurfer · 12/21/2009, 07:32 AM

yeah, but honestly, I would get rid of one clown and the damsel. The damsels can get pretty nasty, and if you get 3 clowns, most-likely one will end up fighting to his death. Once they try to compete for dominance, 1 will win, and become female, the other 2 will be come male. They will also likely form a pair, and then have a subservient male. That male will likely try to compete for dominance at some point, depending how far down the road that is, could spell his demise.

Just what I have learned about clowns. Then you could get a goby or jawfish, or something. As it stands, you are about fully stocked, MAYBE a very small goby, as they are small and kinda stay put in one spot.

Lightsluvr · 12/21/2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefsurfer

yeah, but honestly, I would get rid of one clown and the damsel. The damsels can get pretty nasty, and if you get 3 clowns, most-likely one will end up fighting to his death. Once they try to compete for dominance, 1 will win, and become female, the other 2 will be come male. They will also likely form a pair, and then have a subservient male. That male will likely try to compete for dominance at some point, depending how far down the road that is, could spell his demise.

Just what I have learned about clowns. Then you could get a goby or jawfish, or something. As it stands, you are about fully stocked, MAYBE a very small goby, as they are small and kinda stay put in one spot.

Above advice is absolutely correct... the question will be who kills who first... my money is on the Damsel before the clowns get much bigger. Survival of the fittest and all...

If possible, sell or return one clown and the Damsel. Look into a sand sifting goby for that fairly deep sandbed. Think about fish that will leave your clowns alone, like Royal Gramma or Bangaii Cardinalfish. Jawfish are notorious jumpers...as are Firefish.

Good luck.

LL

foster200 · 12/21/2009, 07:57 AM

One of these would be perfect! I have both and they are my favorite two fish. The golden head is hands down the smartest fish I have ever seen, he is the engineer of my 180 gallon. Moving small rocks around, sifting sand all day, he is great! the red scooter has alot of personality and fun to watch. Either one would be an excellent choice.

http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/gobies/goldenheadgoby/
http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/ble...scooterblenny/

Lightsluvr · 12/21/2009, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by foster200

One of these would be perfect! I have both and they are my favorite two fish. The golden head is hands down the smartest fish I have ever seen, he is the engineer of my 180 gallon. Moving small rocks around, sifting sand all day, he is great! the red scooter has alot of personality and fun to watch. Either one would be an excellent choice.

http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/gobies/goldenheadgoby/
http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/ble...scooterblenny/

The Golden Head Goby is recommended for larger than 30G tanks. Like the Jawfish, it will jump.

The Red Scooter Blenny is a good suggestion, after the Damsel is gone!

JMHO.

LL

Chiefsurfer · 12/21/2009, 08:09 AM

^^^^+1

1DeR9_3Hy · 12/21/2009, 09:51 AM

Starry blennys are great to watch, and they are bottom dwellers for the most part. Also algae blennys look very similar, just a lighter shade of color if thats your flavor.

My only concern with a red scooterwould be sustaining it...unless they are easily weened onto prepared foods i thought they had the same "fresh cut flowers" problem that mandarins have....?

lalo809 · 12/21/2009, 10:03 AM

Yellow watchman is a nice fish

SAZAMA · 12/21/2009, 10:25 AM

ok damsel gone, and ill stick one clown in a pico. red scooter only eat pods, are stary blenny jumpers?

SAZAMA · 12/21/2009, 10:27 AM

how many fish would be good in this tank. without cramping? 30g long with 30g sump

1DeR9_3Hy · 12/21/2009, 10:27 AM

I dont think they are, mine spends 90% of its time on the rocks watching for food to float by. It very rarely moves quickly, which IME is a attribute of jumpers.

They are also pretty good at cleaning up the bottom of a tank during feed time...they will gobble up what ever scraps may get to the bottom.

30 long is 48" or 36"?

blueridge · 12/22/2009, 07:23 PM

You should definitely consider bottom dwelling fish who won't be crowding the other middle-dwelling fish you have. Small gobies or blennies would work. I really like character of blennies.

12/21/2009, 12:45 AM	#1
SAZAMA Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northglenn ,Colorado Posts: 639	fish recommendations??? help a brotha out. ive got a newer 30g mixed reef,no top with 250watt 20k, back overflow 3inch sand bed, 40lbs LR,with baby 3 clowns(less than inch), a damsels, and 2 peppermint shrimps. and I am looking to add a new fish. but not a ton of pods yet.would love something that stay around the bottom. jawfish,goby, anything CHEERS __________________ I enjoy long walks, next to my reef tank...LOVE 303 Current Tank Info: water box

12/21/2009, 10:25 AM	#10
SAZAMA Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northglenn ,Colorado Posts: 639	ok damsel gone, and ill stick one clown in a pico. red scooter only eat pods, are stary blenny jumpers? __________________ I enjoy long walks, next to my reef tank...LOVE 303 Current Tank Info: water box

12/21/2009, 10:27 AM	#11
SAZAMA Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northglenn ,Colorado Posts: 639	how many fish would be good in this tank. without cramping? 30g long with 30g sump __________________ I enjoy long walks, next to my reef tank...LOVE 303 Current Tank Info: water box

12/21/2009, 01:28 AM	#2
wickedfish Moved On Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southbay Posts: 2,167	Well check it out my brotha from anotha mutha. For a 30g tank and have 3 baby clowns that are going to grow a damsel and 2 peppermint shrimp. Your pretty much set. Unless, your going to overstock. Just my opinion.

12/21/2009, 07:32 AM	#3
Chiefsurfer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Seaside Park, NJ Posts: 2,138	yeah, but honestly, I would get rid of one clown and the damsel. The damsels can get pretty nasty, and if you get 3 clowns, most-likely one will end up fighting to his death. Once they try to compete for dominance, 1 will win, and become female, the other 2 will be come male. They will also likely form a pair, and then have a subservient male. That male will likely try to compete for dominance at some point, depending how far down the road that is, could spell his demise. Just what I have learned about clowns. Then you could get a goby or jawfish, or something. As it stands, you are about fully stocked, MAYBE a very small goby, as they are small and kinda stay put in one spot.

12/21/2009, 07:57 AM	#5
foster200 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Watkins Glen, NY Posts: 157	One of these would be perfect! I have both and they are my favorite two fish. The golden head is hands down the smartest fish I have ever seen, he is the engineer of my 180 gallon. Moving small rocks around, sifting sand all day, he is great! the red scooter has alot of personality and fun to watch. Either one would be an excellent choice. http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/gobies/goldenheadgoby/ http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/ble...scooterblenny/

12/21/2009, 08:09 AM	#7
Chiefsurfer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Seaside Park, NJ Posts: 2,138	^^^^+1

12/21/2009, 09:51 AM	#8
1DeR9_3Hy Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,575	Starry blennys are great to watch, and they are bottom dwellers for the most part. Also algae blennys look very similar, just a lighter shade of color if thats your flavor. My only concern with a red scooterwould be sustaining it...unless they are easily weened onto prepared foods i thought they had the same "fresh cut flowers" problem that mandarins have....?

12/21/2009, 10:03 AM	#9
lalo809 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: west,Indianapollis Posts: 346	Yellow watchman is a nice fish

12/22/2009, 07:23 PM	#13
blueridge Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 63	You should definitely consider bottom dwelling fish who won't be crowding the other middle-dwelling fish you have. Small gobies or blennies would work. I really like character of blennies.