too remove a mantis or not

Shayn · 03/16/2010, 08:39 PM

ok here is the story, set up a 90 gallon sps tank around 1-1-10, started with some base rock and 24 pounds of the nicest lr ive ever incountered in years in this hobby, oysters,lps, sps, crabs, and when i diped the rock originaly i found a mantis shrimp , so like a good conservertist i set up a seperate tank and keep the intresting little shrimp, well now three months later and after two canary fang blenny disaperances + two yellow bleeny + one black blenny, i finnally observed a second and much bigger mantis same spesis living in the tank. Ok here is the question i have three scarlet cleaner shrimp and one blood shrimp in main tank, with th ebigger mantis. I know the smaller shrimp is of the same family as the biger one in my tank, and i have been feding it pepperment shrimp, so i know it likes other shrimp. So am I just looking for trouble by leaveing this guy in my tank or should I remove it? I t appears the mantis and other shrimp have been in tank together from the get go. I am really on th efence on this part of me wants to see if i can have a nice sps w/ inverts and a mantis and all get along? any thoughts , insights would be considered and appresiated!

Shayn · 03/17/2010, 11:52 AM

anyone have a mantis in there reef tank?

anbosu · 03/17/2010, 11:58 AM

Generally if you want to keep anything else in your tank long term you will have to get rid of the mantis.

noahm · 03/17/2010, 11:59 AM

As long as you treat is as a proper inhabitant and count on 'feeding' it a certain amount of stuff, you can have it in there. Depending on the type (smasher/spearer), it may take out fish. Since you already mentioned fish loss, that is a possibility. It will kill stuff, just not corals. I have one N. wennerae about 2 1/2" long in my tank that I don't even know is there except every few months I see it. I 'feed' him a new snail crew every so often when mine starts to dwindle. They seem to like the nassarius and nerites as the shell seems to be easier to crack. Never had any problem with fish. Spearers will kill fish though.

If you have the ability, I would remove it. They are pretty cool and smart critters, but I have a hard time fully accepting mine.

Frick-n-Frags · 03/17/2010, 12:00 PM

you are looking for trouble. absolutely get it out. that is my feeling on the subject of mantis shrimp after having gotten 3 as hitchers (well they were called slipper lobsters by the shmucks who sent me the rock) and watched them in action. at least they killed each other off down to one, but they killed anything else they could along the way

they even smash up the LR going after worms or something in the rock. that was actually cool to watch the mantis smashing the rocks..but..

mike810 · 03/17/2010, 04:54 PM

Shayn, when you said you dipped the rock. what did you dip it in? When you dipped the rock, did you kill off everything in the rock or??? I have been hearing clicking noises coming from my tank and suspect i have a mantis or pistol. I will be removing all my rocks in the next week or so to scrub for algae and transfer to a new tank. Whats the best way to get this shrimp out of my rocks while i have the rocks out of my tank? I do not want to kill everything on my rock. I have lots of pods i need to be kept alive to feed my mandarin.

Anthonius · 03/17/2010, 05:07 PM

what do i do if my LFS wont take the Mantis I got? I put him in a 5g bucket but have nowhere to send him. Can I eat this sucker? lol he sorta looks like a lobster.

mike810 · 03/17/2010, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthonius

what do i do if my LFS wont take the Mantis I got? I put him in a 5g bucket but have nowhere to send him. Can I eat this sucker? lol he sorta looks like a lobster.

make a post here in your local club section. see if anyone wants him there.

noahm · 03/17/2010, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthonius

what do i do if my LFS wont take the Mantis I got? I put him in a 5g bucket but have nowhere to send him. Can I eat this sucker? lol he sorta looks like a lobster.

If he can't go in the sump, post in the mantis forum here and see if anyone wants him. Figure out the deal via pm so you don't violate any rules. Someone will want him.

Or get a 12 gal nano

Onedeadbob · 03/17/2010, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthonius

what do i do if my LFS wont take the Mantis I got? I put him in a 5g bucket but have nowhere to send him. Can I eat this sucker? lol he sorta looks like a lobster.

If you purchased the LR at the LFS wouldn't they be required to take the mantis? (I may be way off base here... I thought if you purchased livestock from a store they had to accept it back).

Frick-n-Frags · 03/18/2010, 07:27 AM

1) first i would show it the empty snail shells that used to house asst snails and hermits

2)then tell it "you have one chance to say something in your defense"

3)ruh roh, it sux to be him.........the hammer of justice has rung out (craftsman brand)

03/16/2010, 08:39 PM	#1
Shayn Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Woodlands,Texas Posts: 233	too remove a mantis or not ok here is the story, set up a 90 gallon sps tank around 1-1-10, started with some base rock and 24 pounds of the nicest lr ive ever incountered in years in this hobby, oysters,lps, sps, crabs, and when i diped the rock originaly i found a mantis shrimp , so like a good conservertist i set up a seperate tank and keep the intresting little shrimp, well now three months later and after two canary fang blenny disaperances + two yellow bleeny + one black blenny, i finnally observed a second and much bigger mantis same spesis living in the tank. Ok here is the question i have three scarlet cleaner shrimp and one blood shrimp in main tank, with th ebigger mantis. I know the smaller shrimp is of the same family as the biger one in my tank, and i have been feding it pepperment shrimp, so i know it likes other shrimp. So am I just looking for trouble by leaveing this guy in my tank or should I remove it? I t appears the mantis and other shrimp have been in tank together from the get go. I am really on th efence on this part of me wants to see if i can have a nice sps w/ inverts and a mantis and all get along? any thoughts , insights would be considered and appresiated!

03/17/2010, 12:00 PM	#5
Frick-n-Frags Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: north central OH Posts: 10,740	you are looking for trouble. absolutely get it out. that is my feeling on the subject of mantis shrimp after having gotten 3 as hitchers (well they were called slipper lobsters by the shmucks who sent me the rock) and watched them in action. at least they killed each other off down to one, but they killed anything else they could along the way they even smash up the LR going after worms or something in the rock. that was actually cool to watch the mantis smashing the rocks..but.. __________________ Only Dead fish swim with the current. Current Tank Info: 2 50 gal tanks, sump, still BB

03/18/2010, 07:27 AM	#11
Frick-n-Frags Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: north central OH Posts: 10,740	1) first i would show it the empty snail shells that used to house asst snails and hermits 2)then tell it "you have one chance to say something in your defense" 3)ruh roh, it sux to be him.........the hammer of justice has rung out (craftsman brand) __________________ Only Dead fish swim with the current. Current Tank Info: 2 50 gal tanks, sump, still BB

03/17/2010, 11:52 AM	#2
Shayn Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Woodlands,Texas Posts: 233	anyone have a mantis in there reef tank?

03/17/2010, 11:58 AM	#3
anbosu Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mount Juliet, TN Posts: 4,528	Generally if you want to keep anything else in your tank long term you will have to get rid of the mantis.

03/17/2010, 11:59 AM	#4
noahm Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 2,736	As long as you treat is as a proper inhabitant and count on 'feeding' it a certain amount of stuff, you can have it in there. Depending on the type (smasher/spearer), it may take out fish. Since you already mentioned fish loss, that is a possibility. It will kill stuff, just not corals. I have one N. wennerae about 2 1/2" long in my tank that I don't even know is there except every few months I see it. I 'feed' him a new snail crew every so often when mine starts to dwindle. They seem to like the nassarius and nerites as the shell seems to be easier to crack. Never had any problem with fish. Spearers will kill fish though. If you have the ability, I would remove it. They are pretty cool and smart critters, but I have a hard time fully accepting mine.

03/17/2010, 04:54 PM	#6
mike810 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 2,235	Shayn, when you said you dipped the rock. what did you dip it in? When you dipped the rock, did you kill off everything in the rock or??? I have been hearing clicking noises coming from my tank and suspect i have a mantis or pistol. I will be removing all my rocks in the next week or so to scrub for algae and transfer to a new tank. Whats the best way to get this shrimp out of my rocks while i have the rocks out of my tank? I do not want to kill everything on my rock. I have lots of pods i need to be kept alive to feed my mandarin.

03/17/2010, 05:07 PM	#7
Anthonius Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: sioux city Posts: 401	what do i do if my LFS wont take the Mantis I got? I put him in a 5g bucket but have nowhere to send him. Can I eat this sucker? lol he sorta looks like a lobster.