Green Bubble & Torch Corals!!

Gtownguy487 · 03/17/2010, 08:06 AM

So i bought 2 pieces of coral 2 weeks ago! They do not look anything like they did when i bought them.. They have been in my tank for about 2 weeks and the green bubble isn't even a bubble anymore it has a green and white dead skin hanging from it.. And the frogspawn is turning white and doesnt come out but maybe a cm tiny white arms.. Whats wrong here are they dead or on their way dead? Is ther anything i can do to save them? Please!!!! Please!!! Help!!

Thanks

Sugar Magnolia · 03/17/2010, 08:11 AM

We need more information about your tank. How old is the tank, what are the water parameters, what kind of lighting are you using? How did you acclimate the corals?

jacksonpt · 03/17/2010, 08:21 AM

Also, how much flow do you have, and are the corals in high flow or low flow areas.

Gtownguy487 · 03/17/2010, 08:39 AM

Nitrite .2
PH 8.4
ALK. 1.7-2.8
Phos .2
Cal. 650 ppm
Ammonia .25
Nitrate 5-10

Low Flow on sand bed
Tank is 6-7 months old
Nova Extreme 12 Bulb 72" T5
Tank is 210 Gallons with 30gSump+30gRefuge

I acclimated it by putting the bag in fuge with lights off for 15 dumped the water and coral into bucket and added 1 cup of tank water to the cup every 30 mins.

Ston3 · 03/17/2010, 08:54 AM

I'm no reef expert by any means, but your nitrites and ammonia should be 0.

Sugar Magnolia · 03/17/2010, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gtownguy487

Nitrite .2
PH 8.4
ALK. 1.7-2.8
Phos .2
Cal. 650 ppm
Ammonia 1.0
Nitrate 5-10

Low Flow on sand bed
Tank is 6-7 months old
Nova Extreme 12 Bulb 72" T5
Tank is 210 Gallons with 30gSump+30gRefuge

I acclimated it by putting the bag in fuge with lights off for 15 dumped the water and coral into bucket and added 1 cup of tank water to the cup every 30 mins.

You should have ZERO ammonia, nitrite and ideally, zero nitrate. Your calcium is too high and your alkilinity is too low. the corals are dying because your water quality is in very bad shape. IMHO, you really should get them out of that tank ASAP until you get your levels where they should be, to provide the optimum environent for them.

Also, you didn't list your salinity.

Water parameters: http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rhf/index.php

Gtownguy487 · 03/17/2010, 09:41 AM

1.025 Salinity
80 Degrees

I dont have another tank right now... What can I do?

Sugar Magnolia · 03/17/2010, 10:02 AM

Can you return them to the LFS where you got them and ask them to hold them for you until you get the tank straightened out? Or perhaps a fellow reefer in your area?

TheMcs · 03/17/2010, 10:05 AM

Ditto what Sugar Magnolia said. LPS especially are intolerant of high or low alkalinity levels.

How old is your tank?

Gtownguy487 · 03/17/2010, 10:06 AM

6-7 months.. What can i purchase to get my levels right?

Sugar Magnolia · 03/17/2010, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gtownguy487

6-7 months.. What can i purchase to get my levels right?

You don't need to purchase anything. Doing some major water changes will help bring things back in check. Something is obviosuly wrong if you are having ammonia and nitrite issues.

walkthedog · 03/17/2010, 10:38 AM

What kind of filtration are you using. Live Rock?, Skimmer, ... How many fish are in the tank? You shouldn't be seeing ammonia in a 6-7 month old tank unless something is lacking in the filtration or your bioload is to high. Water changes will help get them out for now. (if using a good source of water). What do you use to filter the water?

Gtownguy487 · 03/17/2010, 01:50 PM

My water runs through the sump through a skimmer and into filter... Florida Live Rock is the live rock i have..

How big of a water change should i do?

Gtownguy487 · 03/17/2010, 02:16 PM

Anyone?

Should i do 50%?

Ali :D · 03/17/2010, 02:27 PM

I would do as much as you can but never do more than 50%. Thats a lot of water to change in a 210 but I really don't know enough to say but I would do at least 50g if you can maybe more

Gtownguy487 · 03/18/2010, 08:22 AM

Can doing too much of a water change hurt your coral?

I changed 90 gallons out last night out of 300 gallons..

All my sps was spraying stuff all in the water covering most of the corals and live rock around it...

Gtownguy487 · 03/18/2010, 09:50 AM

Tank Temp is at 77 degrees and 1.020 salinity after the water change

jim t · 03/18/2010, 10:05 AM

Most reef tanks incld. mine keep the salinity level at 1.024 - 1.026
I don't think that whats hurting your coral but its one thing to fix

03/17/2010, 08:06 AM	#1
Gtownguy487 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 430	Green Bubble & Torch Corals!! So i bought 2 pieces of coral 2 weeks ago! They do not look anything like they did when i bought them.. They have been in my tank for about 2 weeks and the green bubble isn't even a bubble anymore it has a green and white dead skin hanging from it.. And the frogspawn is turning white and doesnt come out but maybe a cm tiny white arms.. Whats wrong here are they dead or on their way dead? Is ther anything i can do to save them? Please!!!! Please!!! Help!! Thanks

03/17/2010, 08:11 AM	#2
Sugar Magnolia Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Northern VA Posts: 17,691	We need more information about your tank. How old is the tank, what are the water parameters, what kind of lighting are you using? How did you acclimate the corals? __________________ Adrienne The only thing to fear is fear itself....and spiders.

03/17/2010, 08:21 AM	#3
jacksonpt Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Vestal, NY Posts: 3,679	Also, how much flow do you have, and are the corals in high flow or low flow areas. __________________ Jackson - All advice I give is based on my first hand experience. YMMV. Current Tank Info: 38g (mostly LPS) with a 20g sump/fuge and all the other standard goodies

03/17/2010, 08:39 AM	#4
Gtownguy487 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 430	Nitrite .2 PH 8.4 ALK. 1.7-2.8 Phos .2 Cal. 650 ppm Ammonia .25 Nitrate 5-10 Low Flow on sand bed Tank is 6-7 months old Nova Extreme 12 Bulb 72" T5 Tank is 210 Gallons with 30gSump+30gRefuge I acclimated it by putting the bag in fuge with lights off for 15 dumped the water and coral into bucket and added 1 cup of tank water to the cup every 30 mins. Last edited by Gtownguy487; 03/17/2010 at 09:01 AM.

03/17/2010, 10:02 AM	#8
Sugar Magnolia Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Northern VA Posts: 17,691	Can you return them to the LFS where you got them and ask them to hold them for you until you get the tank straightened out? Or perhaps a fellow reefer in your area? __________________ Adrienne The only thing to fear is fear itself....and spiders.

03/17/2010, 08:54 AM	#5
Ston3 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 330	I'm no reef expert by any means, but your nitrites and ammonia should be 0.

03/17/2010, 09:41 AM	#7
Gtownguy487 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 430	1.025 Salinity 80 Degrees I dont have another tank right now... What can I do?

03/17/2010, 10:05 AM	#9
TheMcs Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 2,272	Ditto what Sugar Magnolia said. LPS especially are intolerant of high or low alkalinity levels. How old is your tank? __________________ Evaporation and top off don't count as water changes... Current Tank Info: 185g Deep Sea display, 2x 40g frag tanks, 90g fuge, 60g sump (400+ gal system)

03/17/2010, 10:06 AM	#10
Gtownguy487 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 430	6-7 months.. What can i purchase to get my levels right?

03/17/2010, 10:38 AM	#12
walkthedog Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 370	What kind of filtration are you using. Live Rock?, Skimmer, ... How many fish are in the tank? You shouldn't be seeing ammonia in a 6-7 month old tank unless something is lacking in the filtration or your bioload is to high. Water changes will help get them out for now. (if using a good source of water). What do you use to filter the water?

03/17/2010, 01:50 PM	#13
Gtownguy487 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 430	My water runs through the sump through a skimmer and into filter... Florida Live Rock is the live rock i have.. How big of a water change should i do?

03/17/2010, 02:16 PM	#14
Gtownguy487 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 430	Anyone? Should i do 50%?

03/17/2010, 02:27 PM	#15
Ali :D Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ellenton, FL Posts: 757	I would do as much as you can but never do more than 50%. Thats a lot of water to change in a 210 but I really don't know enough to say but I would do at least 50g if you can maybe more __________________ 40 Breeder, 2x AI Nano w/controller, 2x NextReef Reactors, Reef Octopus 250 Skimmer, Custom sump. If somethings too hard to do it's not worth doing! On a scale of 1 to Insane, I'm a chocolate dolphin.

03/18/2010, 08:22 AM	#16
Gtownguy487 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 430	Can doing too much of a water change hurt your coral? I changed 90 gallons out last night out of 300 gallons.. All my sps was spraying stuff all in the water covering most of the corals and live rock around it...

03/18/2010, 09:50 AM	#17
Gtownguy487 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 430	Tank Temp is at 77 degrees and 1.020 salinity after the water change

03/18/2010, 10:05 AM	#18
jim t Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 190	Most reef tanks incld. mine keep the salinity level at 1.024 - 1.026 I don't think that whats hurting your coral but its one thing to fix