250W-20k reeflux bulb issues.

jh2pizza · 03/22/2010, 06:47 PM

We purchase 3 - 20K reeflux bulbs. Two of them are white, white, white, more like the 10K bulbs, the other is a nice pleasing blue. Swapped them around ruling out the ballast, cords, reflectors, etc. Nothing changes.

Any suggestions?

Fig · 03/22/2010, 06:53 PM

Is the nipple up on all 3?

Pike614 · 03/22/2010, 06:59 PM

nipple should be down, shouldn't it??

ReefTECK · 03/22/2010, 07:09 PM

what is all this talk about nipples?! I'm hoping I might learn something here that helps the way my bulbs burn!

livenow · 03/22/2010, 07:19 PM

has to be pointed straight up for correct color not 3, 6, 9, but 12:00. Away from water what ever you want to call it. That is the only correct way to fire the bulb to the right color.

jh2pizza · 03/22/2010, 07:48 PM

I will try that.

jh2pizza · 03/22/2010, 10:43 PM

did not seem to make much of a difference.

agsansoo · 03/22/2010, 11:58 PM

OK I'm going to ask the obvious question, are all three bulbs marked 20K ? Maybe the vendor who sold you these bulbs, sold you some bulbs that were returned for burning too white. Like the 20K bulbs I returned !

jh2pizza · 03/23/2010, 09:02 AM

yes, the bulbs and tubes are all marked 20K. Tried one of the 400W 20K last night and it appears to be a 20K. So as of now, I am 2 for 2.

lucidheights · 03/23/2010, 12:42 PM

nipple?

Fig · 03/23/2010, 02:43 PM

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1527871

jh2pizza · 03/23/2010, 09:06 PM

Nipple placement made very little difference. Thanks for the idea though.

Toadally · 03/23/2010, 09:32 PM

According to the manufacturer the nipple must be pointed up for the bulb to burn correctly. I called to find out.....also it extends the life of the lamp.

mordibv · 03/23/2010, 09:40 PM

Keep in mind the RL 20k bulb isn't that blue blue imho .Prolly explains why it has more par than a RL 12k I had a ballast issue and sent the bulb and ballast back and they sent out a new bulb . Some user's are noticing a shift to the white after a few months . Some are not . Kinda hit and miss . Even though it's not as blue as I would like, it is doing some justice for my corals colors just not eyes .

jh2pizza · 03/24/2010, 05:43 AM

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Keep in mind the RL 20k bulb isn't that blue blue imho

I do not disagree with that at all, but 3 new identical bulbs during the first 3 days of use, should be very close in color.

CoralVue is taking care of the issue and responded within 8 hours of contact.

Excellent customer service.

Compguy · 03/24/2010, 06:31 AM

So you must me talking about SE bulbs, cause the DE Reeflux 20k's I run can only but installed one way, nipple up.

mordibv · 03/24/2010, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jh2pizza

I do not disagree with that at all, but 3 new identical bulbs during the first 3 days of use, should be very close in color.

CoralVue is taking care of the issue and responded within 8 hours of contact.

Excellent customer service.

Not to be bashing CV . But I would say QC is non existent to a degree. Kind of reminded me of a comparison of RL 12k and Primo beer . U can buy a case but might get 24 assorted flavors . LOL .Anywho Cv took care of my issue too

Any other user of the 250 RL 20k se just sent them back and CV took care of business .

Love to hear if you get all three right . Plse keep us posted on this .

palawan · 03/24/2010, 06:59 AM

I have the same issue with my Reeflux 20k 250w moguls that I purchased 3 months ago. Both bulbs are marked 20k but I swear one of them looks like it is 10k or the 14k bulb. I did not call the vendor as I thought it needed burn-in, but I should have. Too late for me now. I do love the look of the 20k bulb though.

agsansoo · 03/24/2010, 08:09 AM

Not too late. I sent two 20k 250w DE back after three months. They replaced them both (w/ 12K's). I'm pretty sure they know there's an issue with these bulbs.

palawan · 03/24/2010, 12:52 PM

I bought the bulbs on 11/19/2009 from Fishy Business. I will see what they can do as far as the bulb goes.

agsansoo · 03/24/2010, 04:42 PM

palawan, YGPM !

palawan · 03/24/2010, 08:52 PM

Thanks AGSANSOO for the info. I will contact him tomorrow.

03/22/2010, 06:47 PM	#1
jh2pizza Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: zanesville, ohio Posts: 3,439	250W-20k reeflux bulb issues. We purchase 3 - 20K reeflux bulbs. Two of them are white, white, white, more like the 10K bulbs, the other is a nice pleasing blue. Swapped them around ruling out the ballast, cords, reflectors, etc. Nothing changes. Any suggestions? __________________ Joe and Jeni Friends don't give Friends kenya trees! Current Tank Info: Oceanic 180 in wall, 100 sump, Geo Kalk Reactor, Tunze 9415 skimmer, Geo Media Reactors, Geo 624 CA Reactor

03/22/2010, 07:09 PM	#4
ReefTECK Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Iowa City, Iowa Posts: 901	what is all this talk about nipples?! I'm hoping I might learn something here that helps the way my bulbs burn! __________________ 2013 President of the Greater Iowa Reef Society www.iowareefs.org Current Tank Info: 120 Gallon Tank, 96 DIY LED's on 3 channels, 30gal sump/fuge, 4x2x0.5' & 40gal frag tank, SRO Ca rxr, GSA Kalk rxr, SRO 3000 skmr, Gen-X PCX40 Return, 2xMP40w's, 1xTunze 6101, 140lbs LR, SSB, SPS all the way!

03/22/2010, 07:48 PM	#6
jh2pizza Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: zanesville, ohio Posts: 3,439	I will try that. __________________ Joe and Jeni Friends don't give Friends kenya trees! Current Tank Info: Oceanic 180 in wall, 100 sump, Geo Kalk Reactor, Tunze 9415 skimmer, Geo Media Reactors, Geo 624 CA Reactor

03/22/2010, 10:43 PM	#7
jh2pizza Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: zanesville, ohio Posts: 3,439	did not seem to make much of a difference. __________________ Joe and Jeni Friends don't give Friends kenya trees! Current Tank Info: Oceanic 180 in wall, 100 sump, Geo Kalk Reactor, Tunze 9415 skimmer, Geo Media Reactors, Geo 624 CA Reactor

03/22/2010, 11:58 PM	#8
agsansoo Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Downey,CA Posts: 1,782	OK I'm going to ask the obvious question, are all three bulbs marked 20K ? Maybe the vendor who sold you these bulbs, sold you some bulbs that were returned for burning too white. Like the 20K bulbs I returned ! __________________ Andy SCRK Member Current Tank Info: Barebottom, 65 Bow-Front, 20 gal sump/fuge, octo extreme 160, (2) Lumen Max3 250W w/ XM 20k's, 2 VHO Actinic and (1) VorTech MP40w & (1) VorTech MP10

03/22/2010, 06:53 PM	#2
Fig Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Iowa Posts: 817	Is the nipple up on all 3?

03/22/2010, 06:59 PM	#3
Pike614 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,303	nipple should be down, shouldn't it??

03/22/2010, 07:19 PM	#5
livenow Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 54	has to be pointed straight up for correct color not 3, 6, 9, but 12:00. Away from water what ever you want to call it. That is the only correct way to fire the bulb to the right color.

03/23/2010, 09:02 AM	#9
jh2pizza Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: zanesville, ohio Posts: 3,439	yes, the bulbs and tubes are all marked 20K. Tried one of the 400W 20K last night and it appears to be a 20K. So as of now, I am 2 for 2. __________________ Joe and Jeni Friends don't give Friends kenya trees! Current Tank Info: Oceanic 180 in wall, 100 sump, Geo Kalk Reactor, Tunze 9415 skimmer, Geo Media Reactors, Geo 624 CA Reactor

03/23/2010, 12:42 PM	#10
lucidheights NYRC member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Jackson Heights NY Posts: 349	nipple?

03/23/2010, 02:43 PM	#11
Fig Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Iowa Posts: 817	http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1527871

03/23/2010, 09:06 PM	#12
jh2pizza Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: zanesville, ohio Posts: 3,439	Nipple placement made very little difference. Thanks for the idea though. __________________ Joe and Jeni Friends don't give Friends kenya trees! Current Tank Info: Oceanic 180 in wall, 100 sump, Geo Kalk Reactor, Tunze 9415 skimmer, Geo Media Reactors, Geo 624 CA Reactor

03/23/2010, 09:32 PM	#13
Toadally Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mount Holly, NC Posts: 986	According to the manufacturer the nipple must be pointed up for the bulb to burn correctly. I called to find out.....also it extends the life of the lamp. __________________ _Michael "Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink whatever comes out?" Reef Aquarium Society of Charlotte (RASOC) Treasurer Current Tank Info: 57gal. Illuminata, Bubble Magus Skimmer, Tek Elite 6x39w, 40gal. Breeder, 2x A150w Kessil LED

03/23/2010, 09:40 PM	#14
mordibv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Western Mass Posts: 1,499	Keep in mind the RL 20k bulb isn't that blue blue imho .Prolly explains why it has more par than a RL 12k I had a ballast issue and sent the bulb and ballast back and they sent out a new bulb . Some user's are noticing a shift to the white after a few months . Some are not . Kinda hit and miss . Even though it's not as blue as I would like, it is doing some justice for my corals colors just not eyes . __________________ It's hard to take advice from those who do not show the fruits of their labor . Current Tank Info: No tank ATM

03/24/2010, 06:31 AM	#16
Compguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Elgin, IL Posts: 1,313	So you must me talking about SE bulbs, cause the DE Reeflux 20k's I run can only but installed one way, nipple up.

03/24/2010, 06:59 AM	#18
palawan Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fremont,CA Posts: 960	I have the same issue with my Reeflux 20k 250w moguls that I purchased 3 months ago. Both bulbs are marked 20k but I swear one of them looks like it is 10k or the 14k bulb. I did not call the vendor as I thought it needed burn-in, but I should have. Too late for me now. I do love the look of the 20k bulb though.

03/24/2010, 08:09 AM	#19
agsansoo Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Downey,CA Posts: 1,782	Not too late. I sent two 20k 250w DE back after three months. They replaced them both (w/ 12K's). I'm pretty sure they know there's an issue with these bulbs. __________________ Andy SCRK Member Current Tank Info: Barebottom, 65 Bow-Front, 20 gal sump/fuge, octo extreme 160, (2) Lumen Max3 250W w/ XM 20k's, 2 VHO Actinic and (1) VorTech MP40w & (1) VorTech MP10

03/24/2010, 12:52 PM	#20
palawan Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fremont,CA Posts: 960	reeflux mogul I bought the bulbs on 11/19/2009 from Fishy Business. I will see what they can do as far as the bulb goes.

03/24/2010, 04:42 PM	#21
agsansoo Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Downey,CA Posts: 1,782	palawan, YGPM ! __________________ Andy SCRK Member Current Tank Info: Barebottom, 65 Bow-Front, 20 gal sump/fuge, octo extreme 160, (2) Lumen Max3 250W w/ XM 20k's, 2 VHO Actinic and (1) VorTech MP40w & (1) VorTech MP10

03/24/2010, 08:52 PM	#22
palawan Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fremont,CA Posts: 960	Thanks AGSANSOO for the info. I will contact him tomorrow.