Thoughts on what this might be...

ocdreefer · 03/25/2010, 06:10 PM

I got a shipment from Reefcleaners.org and was happy but I was acclimating some nassarius snails and I noticed some red bugs swimming around the bag as well. Does anyone know what they might be. Good or Bad. They are tiny I tried taking a picture of them but they don't show up due to size. a little smaller than the head of a pen with a little clear tail. Not shrimp like. Kind a hard to explain. Not sure if they are amphipods or what. Let know as soon as you can.
I don't want to add them to the tank if they are bad. Thanks.

iamwrasseman · 03/25/2010, 07:10 PM

i would QT the whole batch until you figure out what they are .the could be flat worms or something that you dont want so be safe and QT .any chance of a picture or two ?

ocdreefer · 03/25/2010, 09:20 PM

Sorry I tried to get the best pic possible. It's all the little red spots.
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They are kind of funny, they look like little squiggly red balloons.

If anybody has any idea. Let me know.

Thanks!

iamwrasseman · 03/25/2010, 09:39 PM

use flat worm exit and they all will die quickly . make sure that you remove them asap as they are toxic when they die . i would QT the entire bag but first pull the corals out and leave the flat worms in the bag , only temp acclimate the corals and QT them . i would do the flat worm exit treatment three times four days apart so you are sure they are all dead .they are a bad thing to have and will cause you head aches in the future especially with sps corals .

ocdreefer · 03/25/2010, 09:50 PM

So those are flat worms? I never would have thought. I was expecting something different.

iamwrasseman · 03/25/2010, 09:58 PM

to me it looks as though you have flatworms and they are not good . i cant believe that a LFS would sell corals that were infested in that manner and would bring them back unless you have something extremely rare and just got to have it .

reefD · 03/25/2010, 10:06 PM

flatworms for sure !

reefD · 03/25/2010, 10:09 PM

thats alot ,the lfs must know they have them! that is if they have knowledgable staff ....

ocdreefer · 03/25/2010, 10:20 PM

it was actually from reefcleaners.org is where I got them from. They came in a bag with Snails.

iamwrasseman · 03/26/2010, 09:50 PM

that's ridiculous if they would send such a thing to your door step .

ocdreefer · 03/27/2010, 05:18 PM

I emailed John on this and he was surprised to see them as I was. He said he was going to check his tank and he said everything looked ok. He want's to replace them but I am just going to ask him to reimburse me. It would cost more to ship more to me than the money I spent on them.

Ritten · 03/27/2010, 05:22 PM

Crap, I just got a big shipment of snails from them. My directions said NOT to acclimate them way you did. They said float the bag for 15 mn and add them directly to the tank, so I never would have seen them.

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DLANDINO · 03/27/2010, 05:23 PM

I am sure that John will do the right thing. He and the company are great! Def. flat worms.

ocdreefer · 03/27/2010, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ritten

Crap, I just got a big shipment of snails from them. My directions said NOT to acclimate them way you did. They said float the bag for 15 mn and add them directly to the tank, so I never would have seen them.

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Yeah I know, I just did it cause that is what I am used to. Automatic I guess I don't know. I am glad I did. I didn't see them before I started to acclimate them.

Ritten · 03/27/2010, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocdreefer

Yeah I know, I just did it cause that is what I am used to. Automatic I guess I don't know. I am glad I did. I didn't see them before I started to acclimate them.

Oh, yeah, if I had seen that there is no way they would have went in my tank. These things do happen though, I just never thought with snails. I also was very happy with the service from John so I sure don't want my remarks to be seen as bashing them.

flyyyguy · 03/27/2010, 05:31 PM

To be sure.......you dont need to go through a bunch of lengthy qt stepsn to get rid of them nor do these kind of flatworms actually eat ar really harm anything......except for your eyes when they get to plague proportions.

dip the thing in Revive if you have it.....if not, iodine will kill them easily as well. If you use straight iodine it could matter what kinds of corals are in the bag as far as how much iodine you use.

ocdreefer · 03/27/2010, 05:32 PM

They are snails not corals. I was going to get some flat worm exit.

03/25/2010, 06:10 PM	#1
ocdreefer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: southern california Posts: 282	Thoughts on what this might be... I got a shipment from Reefcleaners.org and was happy but I was acclimating some nassarius snails and I noticed some red bugs swimming around the bag as well. Does anyone know what they might be. Good or Bad. They are tiny I tried taking a picture of them but they don't show up due to size. a little smaller than the head of a pen with a little clear tail. Not shrimp like. Kind a hard to explain. Not sure if they are amphipods or what. Let know as soon as you can. I don't want to add them to the tank if they are bad. Thanks. __________________ ocdreefer ~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Beauty and less nagging. The all natural Viagra alternative. :)" Liveforphysics Current Tank Info: 24 gl nano, 70 watt MH, DSB

03/25/2010, 07:10 PM	#2
iamwrasseman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: syracuse Posts: 7,003	i would QT the whole batch until you figure out what they are .the could be flat worms or something that you dont want so be safe and QT .any chance of a picture or two ? __________________ This hobby certainly can put you in some weird positions ! Dave Current Tank Info: 40 freshwater,25saltwater 2000 gallons ,enough tanks for an army ?

03/25/2010, 09:20 PM	#3
ocdreefer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: southern california Posts: 282	ok here is a pic Sorry I tried to get the best pic possible. It's all the little red spots. [IMG][/IMG] They are kind of funny, they look like little squiggly red balloons. If anybody has any idea. Let me know. Thanks! __________________ ocdreefer ~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Beauty and less nagging. The all natural Viagra alternative. :)" Liveforphysics Current Tank Info: 24 gl nano, 70 watt MH, DSB

03/25/2010, 09:39 PM	#4
iamwrasseman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: syracuse Posts: 7,003	use flat worm exit and they all will die quickly . make sure that you remove them asap as they are toxic when they die . i would QT the entire bag but first pull the corals out and leave the flat worms in the bag , only temp acclimate the corals and QT them . i would do the flat worm exit treatment three times four days apart so you are sure they are all dead .they are a bad thing to have and will cause you head aches in the future especially with sps corals . __________________ This hobby certainly can put you in some weird positions ! Dave Current Tank Info: 40 freshwater,25saltwater 2000 gallons ,enough tanks for an army ?

03/25/2010, 09:50 PM	#5
ocdreefer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: southern california Posts: 282	So those are flat worms? I never would have thought. I was expecting something different. __________________ ocdreefer ~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Beauty and less nagging. The all natural Viagra alternative. :)" Liveforphysics Current Tank Info: 24 gl nano, 70 watt MH, DSB

03/25/2010, 09:58 PM	#6
iamwrasseman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: syracuse Posts: 7,003	to me it looks as though you have flatworms and they are not good . i cant believe that a LFS would sell corals that were infested in that manner and would bring them back unless you have something extremely rare and just got to have it . __________________ This hobby certainly can put you in some weird positions ! Dave Current Tank Info: 40 freshwater,25saltwater 2000 gallons ,enough tanks for an army ?

03/25/2010, 10:06 PM	#7
reefD Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Schenectady,New York Posts: 4,968	flatworms for sure ! __________________ DAVID Current Tank Info: it has four sides and a bottom...oh yeah and it has water in it. lol

03/25/2010, 10:09 PM	#8
reefD Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Schenectady,New York Posts: 4,968	thats alot ,the lfs must know they have them! that is if they have knowledgable staff .... __________________ DAVID Current Tank Info: it has four sides and a bottom...oh yeah and it has water in it. lol

03/25/2010, 10:20 PM	#9
ocdreefer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: southern california Posts: 282	it was actually from reefcleaners.org is where I got them from. They came in a bag with Snails. __________________ ocdreefer ~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Beauty and less nagging. The all natural Viagra alternative. :)" Liveforphysics Current Tank Info: 24 gl nano, 70 watt MH, DSB

03/26/2010, 09:50 PM	#10
iamwrasseman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: syracuse Posts: 7,003	that's ridiculous if they would send such a thing to your door step . __________________ This hobby certainly can put you in some weird positions ! Dave Current Tank Info: 40 freshwater,25saltwater 2000 gallons ,enough tanks for an army ?

03/27/2010, 05:18 PM	#11
ocdreefer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: southern california Posts: 282	I emailed John on this and he was surprised to see them as I was. He said he was going to check his tank and he said everything looked ok. He want's to replace them but I am just going to ask him to reimburse me. It would cost more to ship more to me than the money I spent on them. __________________ ocdreefer ~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Beauty and less nagging. The all natural Viagra alternative. :)" Liveforphysics Current Tank Info: 24 gl nano, 70 watt MH, DSB

03/27/2010, 05:22 PM	#12
Ritten Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,164	Crap, I just got a big shipment of snails from them. My directions said NOT to acclimate them way you did. They said float the bag for 15 mn and add them directly to the tank, so I never would have seen them. .

03/27/2010, 05:23 PM	#13
DLANDINO D.L. Heritage Rings Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Clinton, CT USA Posts: 5,610	I am sure that John will do the right thing. He and the company are great! Def. flat worms. __________________ Dave Current Tank Info: JBJ 8 Nano mixed

03/27/2010, 05:31 PM	#16
flyyyguy King of the white corals Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,239	To be sure.......you dont need to go through a bunch of lengthy qt stepsn to get rid of them nor do these kind of flatworms actually eat ar really harm anything......except for your eyes when they get to plague proportions. dip the thing in Revive if you have it.....if not, iodine will kill them easily as well. If you use straight iodine it could matter what kinds of corals are in the bag as far as how much iodine you use. __________________ I like holding hands, snuggling, and long walks on the beach

03/27/2010, 05:32 PM	#17
ocdreefer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: southern california Posts: 282	They are snails not corals. I was going to get some flat worm exit. __________________ ocdreefer ~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Beauty and less nagging. The all natural Viagra alternative. :)" Liveforphysics Current Tank Info: 24 gl nano, 70 watt MH, DSB