My Frogspawn Broke :(

[MrSean]

I came home today to a sad scene.


I'm pretty sure I know who is responsible. Its those cute little orange guys that did it.

I'm wondering if there is anything I can do to save that little frogspawn head.

I know opinions on clowns hosting frogspawn are widely varied. but once those little guys decide I cant really tell them to stop.

Is there anything i can do to save my frogspawn? will it just grow new bones somewhere else?

Thanks

[gman0526]

If conditions are right it might regrow skeleton. Keep it in a low flow area and hope for the best.

You could place it on a container, maybe throw some crushed coral in there so it can attach while it regrows new skeleton.

[gweston]

Ouch decapitated..

I can almost see one clown looking at the other and saying "I didn't do nuthin!"

[MrSean]

The other head is peeling off now!!!

does this happen when it dies!? it looks totally healthy otherwise. full bubbles and nice color...

what do i do?

[Flowbot]

Is there just tissue under it?

[MrSean]

yeah, tissue only. and both heads are off. they are just floating around. and my clowns don't know what to do with themselves.

has anyone even heard of this happening?

I haven't been feeding it, could that be the problem?

[ingtar_shinowa]

clownfish suck, i hate mine

[RokleM]

Actually, that looks like it hasn't been happy for some time. What you're seeing MAY be partially due to the clowns, however it looks like polyp bailout. I would double check all your calc/alc/mag parameters and post them up (along with what kits you're testing with).

The reason I say this is due to the skeleton we're looking at. If you look around the side of the skeleton, there is very very little white area, which is where the coral polyp use to be. TYPICALLY (and I use that as a general reference), healthy branching euphyllia will have a decent amount of flesh extended down the "base" of the "stalk" per say, up to 1/4-1/2". When LPS are stressed, one of the first signs you'll see is this flesh that's down the stalk start to creep up closer to the polyp. In extreme circumstances of stress, what little is still attached bails out and free floats.

It looks like a pretty healthy tank with plenty of coralline, and the frag looks pretty new. The stress could have been primarily previously caused by whomever you got it from... with the addition of acclimation and clowns beating it up being the final straw.

[footballdude2k3]

what did you decide to do with it?

[EMUReef]

Originally Posted by RokleM

Actually, that looks like it hasn't been happy for some time. What you're seeing MAY be partially due to the clowns, however it looks like polyp bailout. I would double check all your calc/alc/mag parameters and post them up (along with what kits you're testing with).

The reason I say this is due to the skeleton we're looking at. If you look around the side of the skeleton, there is very very little white area, which is where the coral polyp use to be. TYPICALLY (and I use that as a general reference), healthy branching euphyllia will have a decent amount of flesh extended down the "base" of the "stalk" per say, up to 1/4-1/2". When LPS are stressed, one of the first signs you'll see is this flesh that's down the stalk start to creep up closer to the polyp. In extreme circumstances of stress, what little is still attached bails out and free floats.

It looks like a pretty healthy tank with plenty of coralline, and the frag looks pretty new. The stress could have been primarily previously caused by whomever you got it from... with the addition of acclimation and clowns beating it up being the final straw.

agreed thats polyp bailout.

it might be water quality or it might be the clowns, clowns tend to love things to death, and its not safe for LPS to be loved by clowns, especially frogspawn that small.

i hate to say it but things seem a bit grim for the poor coral, and it might of not been your fault.

[getzvillereefer]

this thread makes me glad that my clowns choose to host the sand in the back corner of my tank rather than my frogspawn..

[Flowbot]

Clowns sure do tear up frogspawns and torches fast. It's like you almost have to have a nem if you have lps and clowns so they don't destroy them.

[MrSean]

I don't have the specific numbers since I just have the shop I go to test the water. But, they all seemed to think I was doing everything right. But this is a complicated hobby, and seeing as this is my first tank, and so small, I'm not surprised to lose a few things. It does make me sad though.

My clowns need something to host now, and the Bubble anemone I got in november is just a memory now. That stupid little guy never was happy.
My Reefing confidence is losing steam.

Hardy is the name of the game for a while

[ingtar_shinowa]

clownfish blow, sorry about your spawn

[pbmatthews]

Originally Posted by MrSean

I don't have the specific numbers since I just have the shop I go to test the water. But, they all seemed to think I was doing everything right. But this is a complicated hobby, and seeing as this is my first tank, and so small, I'm not surprised to lose a few things. It does make me sad though.

My clowns need something to host now, and the Bubble anemone I got in november is just a memory now. That stupid little guy never was happy.
My Reefing confidence is losing steam.

Hardy is the name of the game for a while

Don't give up, we have all been through it. I've lost more than my fair share of corals. Keep reading and posting you will eventually have success. Patience and knowledge are your two best allies in this hobby.

If you want to provide a host for the clowns, and your parameters are good, you might try Florida Condis. They are cheap nems and as for nems and many people I know including myself have had good luck keeping them.

Before you do anything you should invest in Salifert test kits and learn to do your own water testing. It's not difficult and allows you to get familiar with your own tank and water parameters. Good luck!

[lethose]

Just throwing in .02. If you are at or near the bottom of your bucket of salt, check your alk. like pronto. my first bucket of salt( im still new, tank's like 3 months old) settled funky and the last few water changes spiked my alk to at LEAST 16. Im still not sure if my wall frog is going to make it. I have the same flesh recession issue, and everyone added after I got the alk back in check is doing really well.