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24" 250W Metal Halide 34 87.18%
30" 130W Power Compact 5 12.82%
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Unread 05/18/2010, 08:29 AM   #1
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Question Your Opinion on Lights?

I am looking to buy some lights for my tan k. I want to have a reef tank, corals, and fish (obviously). Here are the pecs on my tank:

- Size: 29 gallon
- Dimensions: 30" x 20" x 12" (w x h x d)
- Rock: Lots (Probably like 1/3 of my tank)
- Corals: None Yet, I want to have a Pulsating Xenia, perhaps a clam, Zoo's, A leather Mayby, etc.
- Has a glass canopy

These were the two that I was considering:
http://shop.aquatraders.com/Odyssea-...ic-p/54222.htm
http://shop.aquatraders.com/Odyssea-...re-p/51202.htm

What would you choose? I have a little experience, but it never hurts to ask around...

Thanks in advance!


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Unread 05/18/2010, 08:36 AM   #2
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personally i wouldnt do either, i think that t-5s would be good for that tank, i am not a fan of MH and i do not think that PCs would be enough for a clam, but i could be wrong on that as i do not have experience with them.


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Unread 05/18/2010, 08:39 AM   #3
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http://www.hamiltontechnology.com/sh...t+Fluorescents


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Unread 05/18/2010, 08:42 AM   #4
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So perhaps something more like:

http://shop.aquatraders.com/ProductD...ductCode=54241

It has Metal Hallide and T5, I like those two though because they have the Blue LED's, lots of power, etc. Plus At night Ill leave the LED's on which will make a really nice shimmer effect. That was my thought at least...


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Unread 05/18/2010, 09:04 AM   #5
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Not familiar with Odyssea products so I cannot comment on their quality or longevity but I highly recommend Hamilton. I have used their products for nearly two decades and have only had one PC ballast failure.
Granted the Hamilton fixture is four times the price but you are getiing a 175 or 250 MH vs 150 and 130 watts of actinic vs 28.
I understand if money is an object as it is for me then the fixture you show above should meet your needs as long as any SPS are positioned high in the tank.


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Unread 05/18/2010, 09:13 AM   #6
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Odyssea fixtures are on the low end of lighting equipment. If you plan on upgrading to a larger tank soon it might be a good choice, but if this is going to be your tank for years to come then I would invest in a better build light fixture. I agree with footballdude, even though I voted halides I think T5's would be an excellent option over this tank. Look into 4 bulb versions.


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Unread 05/18/2010, 09:22 AM   #7
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Go with some t-5's i think too. But fair warning to you about aqua traders. All I have heard is bad things from them for the most part, receiving broken products, bad customer service, etc. But I have heard a few satisfied customers, but be ware!


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Unread 05/18/2010, 10:35 AM   #8
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Yes, I have looked around about them and there were a few complaints, but I say even more good things then bad. Some people had ballast issues, and I think somebody's fan broke. Even with those issues, to fix them may be $100 for the ballast and radio shack has fans . So we will see. Currently they are out of stock, so I have to wait anyways.

So why am I getting so many T5 suggestions...why not CF or MH?

Thanks to the replies so far, this is a great help!


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Unread 05/18/2010, 10:59 AM   #9
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T5's provide good par and aA LOT of color options (especially in a 4 bulb fixture). In a smaller tank, T5's won't create the heat that a MH will and therefore keep your temps and evaporation down. They are also many reasonably priced fixtures out there and the utility costs are cheaper than MH's.

A good 4-bulb fixture with individual reflectors will allow you to keep just about anything in that size/height tank.


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Unread 05/18/2010, 11:03 AM   #10
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Neither. Look at T5's

Or a 150 or 175w MH with a couple T5 actinics (thats what I run on my 58g and love it)


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Unread 05/18/2010, 11:06 AM   #11
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A 29g really does not need MH's to grow what you want to grow, you could even keep high light SPS under nice T5's in a 29g tank. There is a 24" tek fixture that would be perfect for that tank.

http://www.marinedepot.com/24_inch_4...SL2111-vi.html


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Unread 05/18/2010, 11:07 AM   #12
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T5 HO is the best option.


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Unread 05/18/2010, 11:12 AM   #13
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I have a Tek Light and I love it. Good colors and lots of bulb options. +1 on the Sunlight Tek Light, little more than the oddessey ones but well worth it.


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Unread 05/18/2010, 11:13 AM   #14
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Interesting, the only problem with T5 is the power restriction, it seems that a 29" bulb will not give any more then 24 Watts of power, where CF can go to 90 Watts. But you think that is enough?


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Unread 05/18/2010, 11:14 AM   #15
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Light from T5s is much more intense than light from PCs. Don't compare the wattage directly.


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Unread 05/18/2010, 11:16 AM   #16
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light from t5s is much more intense than light from pcs. Don't compare the wattage directly.
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Unread 05/18/2010, 01:06 PM   #17
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T-5's will never give you the "shimmer" effect you get from metal halides and surface agitation no matter how bright they are.


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Unread 05/18/2010, 01:48 PM   #18
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I'd go with the MH if you're looking to have a clam. The other corals and fish will do fine under PC. I have an odyssea MH (2 x 250 plus PC's) over a 55 gallon tank. I love the fixture although we did replace both ballasts (with ice cap) after the first ballast went. Even with the ballast replacements I'm still way ahead of most other MH fixture with respect to cost.


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Unread 05/18/2010, 01:57 PM   #19
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I also have an odyssea fixture, it came with MH and PC combo, I recently ripped out the PC's and replaced them with T5HO retro fits and let me tell you even though the T5's are lower watts they are way brighter!


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Unread 05/18/2010, 04:19 PM   #20
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since you will only have about 17" of water max depending on sand, pc will do fine, t5 will give more color options, MH over doing it.


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Unread 05/18/2010, 06:01 PM   #21
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T-5's will never give you the "shimmer" effect you get from metal halides and surface agitation no matter how bright they are.
They won't give you the added heat or the sky-high electrical costs either!

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I'd go with the MH if you're looking to have a clam.
The claim that you need MH Lighting to house is a clam is nothing but a myth. I kept a clam just fine on the sandbed of my 29G tank under 6x24W T5's.

Nitrowire: I would follow the advice of some others on this thread and go with a Tek Light. You can't go wrong and can house whatever you like!


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Unread 05/18/2010, 06:29 PM   #22
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Tagging along on this..

So what's the difference between like this Tek light:
http://www.marinedepot.com/48_inch_8...SL2121-vi.html

and say the Nove Extreme Pro:
http://www.marinedepot.com/Current_U...FIT5T5-vi.html

Other than the price tag of almost $100.00 more?

I'm looking at upgrading from PCs to T-5s mainly to get more color out of my corals, and hopefully make the LPS happier and Healthier, plus my wife too wants a clam.


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Unread 05/18/2010, 06:45 PM   #23
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I'm a MH fan, but I think it should choose based on what type of corals you plan to keep. If your going to keep lps and zoas I say go T5's. Also, you can usually find decent deals on lights off of local club forums. I rather buy a better T5 setup used than a low-end new.


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Unread 05/18/2010, 06:52 PM   #24
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I have & have had MH & t5.

I would recommend t5's all the way, except for the neat shimmer MH provides. You can get that with any pinpoint source of light though...


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Unread 05/18/2010, 06:57 PM   #25
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I can't believe no one has said anything about the glass canopy yet- unless I missed it. I'd get rid of it to provide better oxygen exchange and your light will also penetrate a little better(that's right, I said penetrate).


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