freshwater dip pt. 2

Ryand63 · 05/18/2010, 04:44 PM

Just curious when freshwater dipping, how do you ensure that the p.h. is the same as tank, such as 8.2? chemicals or is there some other way?

Chris27 · 05/18/2010, 05:54 PM

It's very hard to buffer freshwater, so really it's very difficult to match pH of the display. The most important part is that you match the temperature - can I ask why you want to do a FW dip? They really aren't too helpful, basically it can help a fish flush it's gills and digestive tract, but won't rid it of any parasites and such.

Ryand63 · 05/18/2010, 11:27 PM

I know its stupid of me but I do not have a quarantine tank at the moment and plan on buying some new livestock soon. Just wondering if the freshwater dip would help reduce risk of any parasites like i have heard it does

Chris27 · 05/19/2010, 08:42 AM

Not really, it just helps relieve an effected fish. Most times the parasite will burrow into the gills or flesh at which point the mucus layer protects it. QT is the only sure way and really one can be set up for about the price of one good fish or frag.

dcombs44 · 05/19/2010, 08:46 AM

Pretty sure there's some debate over the effectiveness of freshwater dips. Some say that they can be effective in removing parasites, and others don't.

It's said that the added stress from the freshwater dip can lead to further problems with the fish, but I haven't read any published studies to prove one way or another.

Chris, do you have any support for your claims? I'd be interested in reading.

sedor · 05/19/2010, 09:11 AM

Skip the freshwater dip unless you are specifically trying to bring relief to a fish infested with some sort of parasite. Putting a saltwater fish in freshwater is the equivalent of someone putting you on the moon for 5 minutes without any oxygen. Its very stressful to a fish, add that to the stress of travel and a new environment and it could lead to negative results.

Chris27 · 05/19/2010, 01:41 PM

Here is a good article - Reefkeeping articles have yet to lead me in the wrong direction.

Happy Reading

dcombs44 · 05/19/2010, 01:57 PM

You forgot the link

Thanks by the way. There are definitely some awesome RK articles out there. I've got dozens bookmarked in my browser.

05/18/2010, 04:44 PM	#1
Ryand63 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,045	freshwater dip pt. 2 Just curious when freshwater dipping, how do you ensure that the p.h. is the same as tank, such as 8.2? chemicals or is there some other way?

05/19/2010, 08:46 AM	#5
dcombs44 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 2,913	Pretty sure there's some debate over the effectiveness of freshwater dips. Some say that they can be effective in removing parasites, and others don't. It's said that the added stress from the freshwater dip can lead to further problems with the fish, but I haven't read any published studies to prove one way or another. Chris, do you have any support for your claims? I'd be interested in reading. __________________ Current Setup: 10 Gallon Skimmerless Zoanthid Tank Lighting: Single 175 Watt Metal Halide (14,000 K Hamilton Lamp) Filtration: 10 gallon sump/refugium and Phosban Reactor Return: Mag Drive 700 Controller: ReefKeeper Lite (Basic Version) Circulation: TBD Age of System: Build is in Progress

05/19/2010, 09:11 AM	#6
sedor Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 4,689	Skip the freshwater dip unless you are specifically trying to bring relief to a fish infested with some sort of parasite. Putting a saltwater fish in freshwater is the equivalent of someone putting you on the moon for 5 minutes without any oxygen. Its very stressful to a fish, add that to the stress of travel and a new environment and it could lead to negative results. __________________ Ryan

05/19/2010, 01:57 PM	#8
dcombs44 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 2,913	You forgot the link Thanks by the way. There are definitely some awesome RK articles out there. I've got dozens bookmarked in my browser. __________________ Current Setup: 10 Gallon Skimmerless Zoanthid Tank Lighting: Single 175 Watt Metal Halide (14,000 K Hamilton Lamp) Filtration: 10 gallon sump/refugium and Phosban Reactor Return: Mag Drive 700 Controller: ReefKeeper Lite (Basic Version) Circulation: TBD Age of System: Build is in Progress

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05/18/2010, 05:54 PM	#2
Chris27 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 4,452	It's very hard to buffer freshwater, so really it's very difficult to match pH of the display. The most important part is that you match the temperature - can I ask why you want to do a FW dip? They really aren't too helpful, basically it can help a fish flush it's gills and digestive tract, but won't rid it of any parasites and such.

05/18/2010, 11:27 PM	#3
Ryand63 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,045	I know its stupid of me but I do not have a quarantine tank at the moment and plan on buying some new livestock soon. Just wondering if the freshwater dip would help reduce risk of any parasites like i have heard it does

05/19/2010, 08:42 AM	#4
Chris27 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 4,452	Not really, it just helps relieve an effected fish. Most times the parasite will burrow into the gills or flesh at which point the mucus layer protects it. QT is the only sure way and really one can be set up for about the price of one good fish or frag.

05/19/2010, 01:41 PM	#7
Chris27 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 4,452	Here is a good article - Reefkeeping articles have yet to lead me in the wrong direction. Happy Reading