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Unread 05/19/2010, 04:00 PM   #1
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dosing kent tech-m q's??

so i got the kent tech to hopefully get rid of my bryopsis. do i just follow the instructions and add 1ml per gallon? my tank is ~70g but do i take into consideration all the rock and sand? cuz then it would be a lot less. if not then i would be adding 70ml a day?

can i add more to raise the mg faster? or is that dangerous? how much is safe to add a day?

also i just tested my mag and it's at 1000ppm, didn't now it was soo low! especially since i dose b-ionic a few times a week. any help will be greatly appreciated! wanna make sure i'm doing this right



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Unread 05/19/2010, 04:12 PM   #2
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I just went through the same problem.

You want to get the mag level between 1500-1600. You can safley raise it 50 per day but no more. It is interesting that only the kent works and not other brands. There must be some impurity in it that causes this to work.

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Unread 05/19/2010, 04:19 PM   #3
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ya that's what i've read, i'm just glad there is something out there that seems to work though! and thanks! so it looks like i can safely double it to 140ml and still be under 50, thanks!


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Unread 05/19/2010, 04:41 PM   #4
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Yea you can raise your mag pretty fast without hurting anything
Good luck!


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Unread 05/19/2010, 04:48 PM   #5
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I think the recommendation is not more than 100 PPM a day.


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Unread 05/19/2010, 04:53 PM   #6
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so if each ml is 18.4ppm, then i'd only be adding like 5.5 ml?? but it says 1ml per g. i think i'm making this more confusing then it needs to be lol


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Unread 05/19/2010, 06:29 PM   #7
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i raised mine pretty fast within 3-4 days without any ill effects on my corals and fish.

not sure if anyone mentioned, but you will probably need to buy a new cleanup crew after you finish dosing. i lost every snail, and half of my hermits. small price to pay after going through a non winning battle with bryopsis. i've been bryopsis free for over a year now.


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Unread 05/19/2010, 06:52 PM   #8
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ya i read that it kills off snails, i only have like 10 nassarius snails though


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Unread 05/19/2010, 07:02 PM   #9
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I did not go above 50 per day and I have not lost any snails or hermits and I am going on week 2.


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Unread 05/19/2010, 08:59 PM   #10
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I think I dosed my 50G with 30G sump ~10 mLs per day for about 3-4 weeks. Shake that bottle up every time. The first attempt failed because I think I wasn't dosing every day, the second one worked and haven't seen bryopsis in about 3 months since I stopped dosing. And don't do water changes while your dosing.

I never bothered measuring Mg++ the second time. I'm sure it was high, nobody died though that I noticed (including SPS). Since Salifert can't go above ~1500, seemed kindof useless to test.

I also found it kindof interesting halimeda macroalgae seemed more sensitive at first than the byropsis, but in the end, halimeda survived (in the fuge) but not the bryopsis. You know you're at the killing dose when the bryopsis starts to turn white.


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Unread 05/19/2010, 10:38 PM   #11
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It is interesting that only the kent works and not other brands. There must be some impurity in it that causes this to work.
I thought Kent M works because it is based on Magnesium Sulfate while other Mag additives are mainly Magnesium Chloride. Are you sure it is the impurities?


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Unread 05/19/2010, 11:55 PM   #12
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thanks guys! good to know i shouldn't do water changes, how long should i be doing this for? until all the bryopsis is gone i'm assuming lol


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Unread 05/20/2010, 08:08 AM   #13
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I don't think it should take longer than a month but it would depend probably on how bad your crop is. If you were able to get your levels up to the "kill dose", shouldn't take more than 2 weeks but I think it takes a while to get up to the kill dose.

I'd say if you don't start seeing effects in 2 weeks, increase the dose per day until you do start to see the algae turn white. And if it takes really long, you can do whatever changes, but the water change will knock your levels down a bit unless you dose your replacement water back up to current Mg++ levels in your tank (which was hard for me to monitor since I was above the upper point of my test kit). Kind of a Cr*p shoot, and it took me two attempts but when you get it right it works. I think I consumed a whole 250 ml bottle the first time I tried it. When I went to the 1 G container, I only used about a 4th of it, so I just didn't have the dosing right the 1st time.

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Unread 05/20/2010, 08:18 AM   #14
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I'm in the process of doing this "program" as well. Will post updates....


Sabazerehi, I think that the 18.4ppm per ml is actually 18.4ppm per gallon.
I've been using about 1/4-1/2 cup (about 200-300ml) per day on my 60g frag system with no ill effects.


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Unread 05/20/2010, 09:30 AM   #15
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I am using 900 ml per day in the 315g tank. It is a bad breakout. It looked like a giant green forest. I hate bryopsis.
Seriously ... I despise the stuff.
After 2 1/2 weeks I would say 2/3 of it is gone. However whats left looks as if it is not diminishing at all.


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Unread 05/20/2010, 09:49 AM   #16
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I would pour the whole bottle.... Jk


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Unread 05/20/2010, 11:24 AM   #17
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haha thanks guys! i just tested and i'm at 1125 and i just dosed again, hopefully i should get up to 1600 in another 3-4 days.

another question, once i get up 1600ppm, do i continue to add the kent tech-m? or just enough to keep it at that level? and that depends on how much is depleted a day right?


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I think you just keep it stable


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Unread 05/20/2010, 12:11 PM   #19
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alright thanks Peter! and it was really nice meeting you yesterday and thanks soo much!! i think i've got the testing down


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Unread 05/22/2010, 07:35 PM   #20
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k so this is my 3rd day dosing, and the last 2 days my mg has been reading at 1125, it doesn't seem to be going up. am i doing something wrong?? is it my test kit maybe?? help please!


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Unread 05/22/2010, 08:45 PM   #21
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Wow uve been dosing 3 days and ur only up to 1125 sounds like ur mag was low to begin with. Dosent sound like uve been dosing enough. Get ur mag to 1500 and keep it there even if u don't have the bryopsis anymore


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Kent Marine Tech M works because it has Magnesium Sulfate which is what affects bryopsis.


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Unread 05/22/2010, 09:26 PM   #23
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alright thanks Peter! and it was really nice meeting you yesterday and thanks soo much!! i think i've got the testing down
Saba same here and good job!

I think you need to up the dosing. I had the same problem. I wasn't dosing tech m but diy mag and it was reading at 1250 for two weeks so I up the doseage and it went up like I wanted it to.

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Unread 05/23/2010, 12:30 AM   #24
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ok i upped it to 10oz today, but maybe i'll do like 16 oz? that doesn't sound too drastic? thanks guys!!


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Aw man. Only the Kent tech M works??? I just ordered the seachem powered magnesium supplement cause it was way cheaper and I thought it was the same stuff for getting rid of bryopsis.


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