Ozone generator set up question

[bullitr]

Some suggested for me to get a ozone generator
But i dont know how To set it up
And what equipment do I need

So far I am thinking of getting 100 mg/hr Red sea recommended for 525 g reef or should I get a 200mg/hr since I found one that is cheaper than the 100
A Orp probe monitored by apex
Do I need a reactor or can I send it directly to the protien skimmer?

And for those people that suggest it
Do you have a picture or diagram
And what is the recommend orp< 380

[skairik]

Whether or not you feel comfortable using your skimmer for ozone is really the first question to be answered here. Some people have an exaggerated understanding, or are outright misinformed, about ozone and as such there are a few popular misconceptions that persist about it's proper use and benefits. I have seen people using ozone with “disposable” skimmers and I have seen people use it with their own “keeper” skimmers. I use mine on my “keeper”, a BK250 Internal, specifically.

To answer your question we'll use my own existing set-up as an example. I happen to have the Red Sea Deluxe 100 Mg/Hr and I have it set up via the Ozone Port on my skimmer using ozone safe Polyurethane tubing. I have a Coralife Luft Pump (Medium Mode) that pushes air through the "In" port and on the "Out" port I have another line that runs directly to the ozone port on my skimmer. I do not use the so called "Dryer Beads" to pre-filter the Luft pump air nor do I use a Carbon Bag to trap any residual ozone that might escape into the room. I do not use dryer beads because in my opinion they are just too impractical to maintain over the long term. I also do not use a Carbon Bag Filter because the amount of ozone that I'm using and the amount that might escape into the room is so minimal that it is no cause for any serious concern. Yes, you will need an ORP probe but hopefully the unit(s) you are considering buying already come with it. I have my "Ozone Mg/Hr" set @ 75 Mg and my ORP "Set Point" @ 380. My ORP value usually hovers in the neighborhood of 250-275.

Now some people might argue those last two points (Dryer Beads & Carbon Bag Filter) but I'd really beg to differ. Now granted there are some indisputable points about the proper use of ozone and the dangers of using it improperly but those issues become mute as pertains to aquarium use, especially the Red Sea units.

[evad1]

Originally Posted by skairik

Whether or not you feel comfortable using your skimmer for ozone is really the first question to be answered here. Some people have an exaggerated understanding, or are outright misinformed, about ozone and as such there are a few popular misconceptions that persist about it's proper use and benefits. I have seen people using ozone with “disposable” skimmers and I have seen people use it with their own “keeper” skimmers. I use mine on my “keeper”, a BK250 Internal, specifically.

To answer your question we'll use my own existing set-up as an example. I happen to have the Red Sea Deluxe 100 Mg/Hr and I have it set up via the Ozone Port on my skimmer using ozone safe Polyurethane tubing. I have a Coralife Luft Pump (Medium Mode) that pushes air through the "In" port and on the "Out" port I have another line that runs directly to the ozone port on my skimmer. I do not use the so called "Dryer Beads" to pre-filter the Luft pump air nor do I use a Carbon Bag to trap any residual ozone that might escape into the room. I do not use dryer beads because in my opinion they are just too impractical to maintain over the long term. I also do not use a Carbon Bag Filter because the amount of ozone that I'm using and the amount that might escape into the room is so minimal that it is no cause for any serious concern. Yes, you will need an ORP probe but hopefully the unit(s) you are considering buying already come with it. I have my "Ozone Mg/Hr" set @ 75 Mg and my ORP "Set Point" @ 380. My ORP value usually hovers in the neighborhood of 250-275.

Now some people might argue those last two points (Dryer Beads & Carbon Bag Filter) but I'd really beg to differ. Now granted there are some indisputable points about the proper use of ozone and the dangers of using it improperly but those issues become mute as pertains to aquarium use, especially the Red Sea units.

pros and cons please..
and how long have you been runnning it?
also how did it effect your live stock and parameters??

thank you sir

dave

[bullitr]

Originally Posted by evad1

pros and cons please..
and how long have you been runnning it?
also how did it effect your live stock and parameters??

thank you sir

dave

I want to know too Erik?

[skairik]

Pro(s) 1) Improved water clarity ='s better light penetration. 2) Kills pathogenic parasites in the water column but NOT on the fish itself. Think of Ich as a prime example.

Con(s): 1) Improper use ='s multiple adverse consequences. 2) Initial start up cost.

I have used ozone since approximately 2006. No adverse side effects to date. The effect(s) on my livestock and water parameters has only been positive. On a couple of occasions the addition of an "Ich Prone" fish has resulted in said fish having an "Ich Episode" but none of my other fish have ever contracted it in spite of their close proximity to it. With that said I have never lost a fish to Ich nor has Ich ever been an issue since I began using ozone. I consider it's use to be one of preventative maintenance. On a side note I do not, nor have I ever, pre-treated my fish food with "Garlic" supplements (a popular natural antidote for treating Ich).

[bullitr]

Can you post a picture
I know you are probably @ work right now but when ever you have time I will really appreciate it
ThankS

[skairik]

Originally Posted by bullitr

Can you post a picture
I know you are probably @ work right now but when ever you have time I will really appreciate it
ThankS

Sure. I'll do it sometime tomorrow.

[bullitr]

I don't know if it matters but my protien skimmer is outdoors should I Put the ozone inside the house or leave it outside(inside the shed)

[reef_doug]

If your skimmer is outside, that's perfect! I would run it through the skimmer where the discharge is outside. Always use GAC in your sump downstream from the skimmer. Maybe a large filter sock with GAC placed between the sump baffles would really help to collect a lot of residual ozone.

2 other pros: improved ORP to break down organics and better oxygen levels.
Cons: not healthy for kids and pets, if running it outside you negate these issues!

The BM250 is ozone safe, just "T" it off to one of the silicone air hose (below the "muffler"). The skimmers air draw will suck it in. BTW... you can buy silicone air hose that's used on the BM250 from Reef Geek. Greg sells it by the foot.

Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 1: Chemistry and Biochemistry
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-03/rhf/index.php

Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 2: Equipment and Safety
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-04/rhf/index.php

Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 3: Changes in a Reef Aquarium upon Initiating Ozone
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-05/rhf/index.php

[skairik]

I agree. The ozonizer would be best placed outside and preferably above the skimmer. Placing it above the skimmer will prevent any back-siphoning into the unit in the event you ever have a power failure. The last thing you'd want is to go outside one day and find your ozonizer flooded out with saltwater lol.

To your question about the best ORP "Set Point"...is it 380? In my opinion you don't really need it that high but if you wanted it that high then it certainly wouldn't hurt anything. But whether it was set at 380 or 280, I would imagine you wouldn't be able to tell the difference, especially so in your case due to the large size of your system.

[Trickman2]

When you refer to a keeper skimmer, what type of skimmer are you using? I am looking into buying a skimmer to inject my ozone into.

[skairik]

I am using a Bubble King 250 Internal (aka BK250)

[Furo]

Trickman2,

Vertex Alpha 200, 250 or 300 skimmer (Make by Bubble King) have a port/tube build in to inject the Ozone

[Trickman2]

Nice Skimmer, I was looking at those last night...where is the cheapest place to buy one of those?

[bullitr]

So cal tropical

[GTR]

I used my BK300 for ozone for about 3 years. Collection cup showed some crazing.

[bullitr]

Skairik or anybody have ozone
If you have time to take some picture.I will really appreciate it specially the ozone port location
Thank you