Need help with ID on 2 crabs Please :)

[thebkramer]

I posted this somewhere else but I am not getting any takers.
I should've posted here first since this is my main home

I tried to get ID's on these 2 a few months back but they were too small and photos were not clear enough. I hope these are better

The first is a porcelain crab of some sort.. that I know.. but can't find a true name for him. When looking up porcelains.. I only find the white anemone and a blue one. Seen many pics of different ones.. but haven't found a match with a name...

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Will he like my BTA if he finds it?

The 2nd is a hermit crab that has been a total mystery!!
If you hold CTRL and + it will give you a close up..

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Thanks for any input!!

[Raggamuffin]

first 1 is porceline (sp?) I am 100% on that one, not sure the types of the 2 hermits. Check tampa bay saltwater section below or go to thier site, I have 10 or 12 in my tank that hitch hiked in on thier rock.

[Kates]

Hi, I can't help with a specific species of the porcelain crab, but you might try thinking back to where he first appeared- I assume he came as a hitchhiker on some liive rock, where was the LR from? I have had some luck finding more scientific-related websites by searching things like "filter feeding crabs of such and such ocean". I haven't yet been able to Identify my porcelain crab - she is tiny and kind of a light beige, very hairy like a gorilla crab, but feeds obviously with filter feeding appendages. I'm not sure but I bet there are a lot of species that have very little documentation. Your red one is very pretty, I'm surprised there isn't anyone who has seen one before!

[thebkramer]

Yea I checked Tampa Bay, chucksaddition, and many others. No luck. I know the first is a porcelain.. I was just hoping for more specific.. like anemone, spotted, red, purple etc
The black and white hermit is a Zebra.. that I know Its the weird pinkish/red and cream colored one with blue eyes that has me stumped!!
But thanks very much for replying!!!!

[thebkramer]

Originally Posted by Kates

Hi, I can't help with a specific species of the porcelain crab, but you might try thinking back to where he first appeared- I assume he came as a hitchhiker on some liive rock, where was the LR from? I have had some luck finding more scientific-related websites by searching things like "filter feeding crabs of such and such ocean". I haven't yet been able to Identify my porcelain crab - she is tiny and kind of a light beige, very hairy like a gorilla crab, but feeds obviously with filter feeding appendages. I'm not sure but I bet there are a lot of species that have very little documentation. Your red one is very pretty, I'm surprised there isn't anyone who has seen one before!

Its so amazing how many species of each individual crab there are!! I have checked, or tried to check, the scientific sites and such but no luck. I have tried pbase and berkley.edu and even marinespecies.com.. its been a long process with no luck lol As for the pink/red hermit.. I have 2 of them! But they seem to be good kids I actually bought them because of being unique.. LFS gave them to me for $2 lol cause they didn't know what they were! So.. maybe I got lucky!
The porcelain was about the size of a ---> <---- when I first noticed it and I have no idea where it came off of. Its either from Florida or Hawaii.. I think :P
Thanks for replying