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Unread 09/19/2010, 12:36 AM   #1
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live rock from hawaii

so my dad just came back from hawaii yesterday and brought me what looks like a pice of live rock... well its not live now but looks like it was live at some point... when he gave me it, it was all dried up so right now i got it in a bucket with some tank water and a power head. you think it will grow bacteria and i can put it in my tank? if so how long you think it will take or is it safe to go in now?

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Unread 09/19/2010, 12:39 AM   #2
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When I went to Maui with my wife a few years ago I told her I HAD to bring back some live rock. I took about 10lbs back with me in a zip lock container with sea water in it. I was flipping out when we went through the x-rays at the airport thinking I was going to get busted. Got home, the live rock made it all the way home in the containers with sea water. Even had a little bit of coral on it. To bad I tore my tank down and lost it some place. But it will become live again. Clean it off and throw it in the tank!


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Unread 09/19/2010, 12:40 AM   #3
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so my dad just came back from hawaii yesterday and brought me what looks like a pice of live rock... well its not live now but looks like it was live at some point... when he gave me it, it was all dried up so right now i got it in a bucket with some tank water and a power head. you think it will grow bacteria and i can put it in my tank? if so how long you think it will take or is it safe to go in now?

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When I went to Maui with my wife a few years ago I told her I HAD to bring back some live rock. I took about 10lbs back with me in a zip lock container with sea water in it. I was flipping out when we went through the x-rays at the airport thinking I was going to get busted. Got home, the live rock made it all the way home in the containers with sea water. Even had a little bit of coral on it. To bad I tore my tank down and lost it some place. But it will become live again. Clean it off and throw it in the tank!


http://hawaii.gov/dlnr/dar/coral_liverock.html

It is unlawful to take, break or damage, any implement, any rock or coral to which marine life of any type is visibly attached. (HAR 13-95-71)

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First violations are subject to a fine of up to $1,000 and/or thirty days in jail, plus up to $1,000 per specimen taken illegally. Penalties increase for subsequent violations.


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Unread 09/19/2010, 12:45 AM   #4
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http://hawaii.gov/dlnr/dar/coral_liverock.html

It is unlawful to take, break or damage, any implement, any rock or coral to which marine life of any type is visibly attached. (HAR 13-95-71)

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First violations are subject to a fine of up to $1,000 and/or thirty days in jail, plus up to $1,000 per specimen taken illegally. Penalties increase for subsequent violations.
it was dead bro he found it on the shore


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Unread 09/19/2010, 12:48 AM   #5
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When I went to Maui with my wife a few years ago I told her I HAD to bring back some live rock. I took about 10lbs back with me in a zip lock container with sea water in it. I was flipping out when we went through the x-rays at the airport thinking I was going to get busted. Got home, the live rock made it all the way home in the containers with sea water. Even had a little bit of coral on it. To bad I tore my tank down and lost it some place. But it will become live again. Clean it off and throw it in the tank!
thanks for the info ill probably throw it in tomarrow morning ill let it soak in the water a bit just incase it has any dead crap inside it


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Unread 09/19/2010, 08:09 AM   #6
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I wouldn't put it in until you test for zero ammonia and zero nitrites in the bucket you are keeping it in. Many tanks have been nuked by putting uncured rock in.


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Unread 09/19/2010, 02:42 PM   #7
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im with muttley, make sure it is "cured" before you put it in your tank...and also test the holding tank peramiters before you add it


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Unread 09/19/2010, 06:22 PM   #8
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wow i have heard of the tang police but never the rock police lol

if you already have live rock in your tank and the rock is clean so there isent any dead stuff on it i would add it to my tank.


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Unread 09/19/2010, 08:24 PM   #9
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Florida has "rock police" also named FWC and the regulations are about as bad.


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Unread 09/19/2010, 09:19 PM   #10
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wow i have heard of the tang police but never the rock police lol
We got enough enough problems with "Snorkel Bob" over here to need tourists breaking the law for us to get blamed for it. Especially in the way Bob likes to twist facts.

If the OP father took it from dry land he is fine. Poster #2 admitted guilt on a public forum.

What is going on right now in Hawaii will effect this whole hobby. IF Bob wins this is the the beginning of the end for everyone.


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Unread 09/19/2010, 09:26 PM   #11
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We got enough enough problems with "Snorkel Bob" over here to need tourists breaking the law for us to get blamed for it. Especially in the way Bob likes to twist facts.

If the OP father took it from dry land he is fine. Poster #2 admitted guilt on a public forum.

What is going on right now in Hawaii will effect this whole hobby. IF Bob wins this is the the beginning of the end for everyone.
Can you please elaborate on this im curious as to what is going on and what you mean? you can reply in a pm if you would like or here is fine as well. Your state is a beautiful one and ive been there many times i would hate for anything to be happening!?
Id say scrub the rock off though and put it in your tank its probably fine if it was dry IMO


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Unread 09/19/2010, 09:37 PM   #12
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Unread 09/19/2010, 10:08 PM   #13
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+1 snorkel bob is a great big doucher. We dont need to give him any more ammo.
To OP let it sit in your bucket for a week or so with a powerhead and give it a WC or 2 then rinse and chuck it in, BTW whats hawaii rock look like?


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Unread 09/19/2010, 10:30 PM   #14
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thanks for all the info above..
heres a pick i think it would be nice if it was covered in some neon green star polyps


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Unread 09/19/2010, 11:59 PM   #15
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nice rock.. hope your dad didnt picked up some of these...

http://http://www.hawaii-aloha.com/b...va-rock-curse/


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Unread 09/20/2010, 12:37 AM   #16
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http://hawaii.gov/dlnr/dar/coral_liverock.html

It is unlawful to take, break or damage, any implement, any rock or coral to which marine life of any type is visibly attached. (HAR 13-95-71)

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First violations are subject to a fine of up to $1,000 and/or thirty days in jail, plus up to $1,000 per specimen taken illegally. Penalties increase for subsequent violations.

Yeah I know. But Hey, I was from out of state, I didn't know. Plus TSA didn't do nothing when it was going through the X-Ray Machine. Don't think they could have missed it.. But it was TSA So who know.


Nice piece of rock! Don't think you have to worry about anything if it was DEAD and out of the water for awhile. I'm sure what ever had died off is gone. Just give it a nice scrub and rinse. I put mine right in with no ill effect.


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Unread 09/20/2010, 01:44 AM   #17
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rock looks nice. SNORKEL BOB SHOULD BE SHOT . Why would anyone do that? thats wrong.But seriously thats ridiculous WOW


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Unread 09/20/2010, 09:52 AM   #18
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Florida has "rock police" also named FWC and the regulations are about as bad.
FWC doesn't regulate live rock, that's Department of Agriculture. And anything attached to cultured live rock from a valid live rock lease site is legal to collect and own. But nice try at stirring things up again.

Get with your local reef group and work WITH them to get FWC and DOACS regulations adapted to the hobbyist. Posting nonsense here just works against the rest of us.

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Unread 09/20/2010, 06:04 PM   #19
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nice rock.. hope your dad didnt picked up some of these...

http://http://www.hawaii-aloha.com/b...va-rock-curse/
web page didnt show but na the rock was just as on the shore so he grabed it


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Unread 09/20/2010, 06:18 PM   #20
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Found a really cool looking chunk of very large shell on a gulf coast beach that shall remain nameless. Left it high and dry on the windowsill in full daylight for a couple of months. My son finally thought it was safe to put into his 90 gallon mixed reef tank. Within weeks the entire tank was covered in what can only be described as "alien penis algae" Little green phalluses everywhere! It's been a year and he's still trying to get it under control.

Moral of the story: cook unknown live rock.


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Unread 09/21/2010, 06:45 AM   #22
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jeff, This is not nonsense but fact that the FWC busted my cousin south of St. Pete because besides the alloted snails that he collected he grabed a piece of rock also.The kicker is they fined him,for collecting Live Rock but it was bare of life just had a neat shape.Also I am not trying to stir things up so unless you know me PLEASE do not accuse me of doing so.


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jeff, This is not nonsense but fact that the FWC busted my cousin south of St. Pete because besides the alloted snails that he collected he grabed a piece of rock also.
Ah, not cultured rock from a licensed live rock lease, my mistake. Yep, that'll get you a ticket, it's illegal to collect in Florida. Stick to the limits of the recreational saltwater fishing license and you're okay.

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