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Unread 09/24/2010, 02:25 PM   #1
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drilling glass... i has ?'s...

i'm starting another project... no not a reef... i'm setting up a 45g tall as a vivarium... either for some crested geckos, or maybe a giant day gecko... even though i think day geckos are stupid lizards... they are pretty and well, they won't mind some rain or fog in the tank a couple of hours a day...

so i need a drain under the false floor... so i want to drill a small hole, like half inch or maybe one inch... but whatever... something i could put a small bulkhead on and it will drain to a sump for the rain system... with a filter sock and stuff...






anyways... will drilling a small hole like that be easier than putting a bigger whole on another tank..? this tank has thick glass for some reason... i guess 'cause it's so tall... but... where can i take it...? or do they sell glass hole cutters that small like at harbor garbage...¿¿¿ or even small bulkheads...?

also... where on the tank can i make hole...? it would be perfect on the bottom, but i'm not sure if it's tempered or not... i think it might be... or how low on the tank can i go..?

um... i dunno... whatever... thx...


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Unread 09/24/2010, 02:51 PM   #2
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If it was meant to be a fish tank then it's probably tempered on the bottom. As for cutting the holes I had another reefer with a glass cutter do mine. The hole saws for glass are not cheap but if u go that route here is what he did.

Mark where u want the hole then about a half inch aroun that create a dam with clay in a circle. Fill it with water and drill. U want the blade spinning fast but no pressure on the glass (don't push) Let the blade do all the work

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Unread 09/24/2010, 02:56 PM   #3
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i thought glass cutters were cheap... well at harbor garbage (freight)..¿



shnapssssssssssssssssss... i guess i'm gonna hit up some local glass shops and see if they can drill small holes... all the LFS that have cutters only have gigantor sizes... wack... i need like half inch or so... wack...


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Unread 09/24/2010, 03:10 PM   #4
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I thought he said his was $45 for one but I could be wring. It was a couple years ago


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I have some gumbi if I am heading down to oc sunday I will let you know


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Unread 09/24/2010, 03:20 PM   #6
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wack... time to make some phone calls...


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Unread 09/24/2010, 03:21 PM   #7
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I have some gumbo if I am heading down to oc sunday I will let you know
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really...????

well... um... i'll find your email or something somehow... i can't give out my information at all on this site...


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Unread 09/24/2010, 03:24 PM   #8
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You can find glass bits on ebay from sellers in Hong Kong that are supper cheap and work extremely well. I just got 3 bits from one seller for $25 shipped total. When drilling I found that rocking the drill in a very very slight circular motion helped speed up the process. For a small hole like you are talking yocan use a decent speed but as you get to bigger bits you actually want to use slower speeds from what I have read. My drill is not super fast and it worked great. The holes are smooth and you can run your finger on them with no worries of getting cut.

If the glass on the bottom is very thick then it very well may not be tempered. There are plenty of tanks that are not tempered on the bottom but they use thicker glass. Companies use tempered so that they can use thinner glass.


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Unread 09/24/2010, 03:24 PM   #9
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You can get smaller glass drill-bits from Home depot pretty cheap. i know bc back in my college days I drilled out a 3ft tall chianti (wine) bottle to make a uh... Lamp.


Just go VERY slow... As long as your glass isn't tempered that is.


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Unread 09/24/2010, 03:25 PM   #10
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Double post... I musta been hittin that lamp.


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Unread 09/24/2010, 03:28 PM   #11
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OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGO MGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG...



really...????

well... um... i'll find your email or something somehow... i can't give out my information at all on this site...

Haha... you a gumbo fan? My wife is Creole and I can make a gumbo even better than her mom's (also creole). Made some crawfush Etoufee just a few weeks ago.


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Unread 09/24/2010, 03:30 PM   #12
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Double post... I musta been hittin that lamp.
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAdkfjlsdjfk;asljfd;sadf...


best post evAr!!!...


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Haha... you a gumbo fan? My wife is Creole and I can make a gumbo even better than her mom's (also creole). Made some crawfush Etoufee just a few weeks ago.
i'm gonna go eat at your house...













btw peeps... i typed all those omg's... my kids were staring at me like i was crazy...


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really...????

well... um... i'll find your email or something somehow... i can't give out my information at all on this site...
You have my email
Just put yahoooooo


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Unread 09/24/2010, 03:43 PM   #15
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oh yeah haw...

well... i have to bust a trip to home depot anyways... then to some LFS to find a bulkhead that might not exist... LOL...

i'll see... i just don't want to leave my AC cooled living room right now... it's insane hot... RAWR!!!...


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Unread 09/24/2010, 03:49 PM   #16
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You can get smaller glass drill-bits from Home depot pretty cheap. i know bc back in my college days I drilled out a 3ft tall chianti (wine) bottle to make a uh... Lamp.

hahaha, sounds just like me. Oh man look at that, I could make a... lamp out of that.
Then I bought a volcano...


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Unread 09/24/2010, 03:58 PM   #17
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so... can i use any of these dudes...?

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...atalogId=10053

if i can, i'll go RIGHT NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!...


(for some reason i feel very tim and erik today...)


that one "apache" one is 1/2" but it really doesn't matter... i might not need a bulkhead, i will just silicone some hose on the back of the tank... it's not going to be high flow, or with a lot of pressure...


what do you guys think...?


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Unread 09/24/2010, 04:05 PM   #18
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You need these....

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...atalogId=10053


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Unread 09/24/2010, 04:10 PM   #19
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that's too big... i don't want a gigantic hole... i just need like 100gph the most...


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i think i found one...

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053


5/16's is smaller than half inch amirite...? that's fail... but i guess it's gonna have to do...


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Unread 09/24/2010, 04:14 PM   #21
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I just ment you needed to use a diamond hole saw, not that size.

You could try the other bits, but they only have a carbide tip compared to diamond. At work I cut carbide with diamond, so I know diamond is MUCH stronger than carbide.

and yes 5/16" (.3125) is smaller than 1/2" (.5000) by almost half....


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Unread 09/24/2010, 04:31 PM   #22
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Gumbii you should be a pro with hole sizes given all your hardware.


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I just ment you needed to use a diamond hole saw, not that size.

You could try the other bits, but they only have a carbide tip compared to diamond. At work I cut carbide with diamond, so I know diamond is MUCH stronger than carbide.

and yes 5/16" (.3125) is smaller than 1/2" (.5000) by almost half....
oh mier... that's way too small... i haven't moved from the couch since i started this thread... LOL... i have to go out to the stores and see what they have... i'll start with my local glass shop... since it's closer than the two HD's in my area... thanks for the info enjoy...

btw... do you work in the city of industry...? my friend's dad makes carbide and other drill bits at this place over there... he brings home some awesome looking bits sometimes... they cost $texas a piece...

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Gumbii you should be a pro with hole sizes given all your hardware.
i know haw... i went thru all the gauges and sizes on my ears, but i don't know if 5/16 is smaller than 00ga... i need to go bigger on my ears too... i feel like they aren't big enough...


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Nope, I work in Rancho Cucamonga. My family owns and operates a precision plastic injection molding company, so I deal with cutting hardened steel to very accurate dimensions.
We use diamond grinding wheels to grind carbide cutters to whatever we need to get the job done. We do work for microsoft, bose, oakley, and recently we have gotten more into the medical field (syringes, urine meters, etc....) Basically anything plastic, we make the metal mold for it.

Heck, even my wedding ring is Tungston Carbide


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Unread 09/24/2010, 08:15 PM   #25
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awwwwww... you're married...????












































j/k...




¿updates?...


i think i'm going to get it at CRlaurence...
http://www.crlaurence.com/crlapps/sh...1&ModelID=4914

i just have to use my neighbors account... also, i don't know how much it's going to be... and i don't know if i should try using 1/2" or 1 3/16" yet, but oh well... we'll see...


thx for the advice guyses...

or if i can't buy they... i'll just stalk laurence for they... i think he all ready started flirting via emails with me... LOL...


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