Can i add more

m_wonnacott · 10/06/2010, 09:29 PM

I am currently running a 55 gal that is atm sumpless and skimmerless. It has about 75 lbs of base rock that has been seeded with 5 lbs of live rock and fully cycled. Tank has been cycled for about 3 months. Current inhabitants are in order I added them 3 blue green cromis (no issues so far after three months), Royal Gramma Basslet, peppermint shrimp, Coral Beauty Angel adult(4"), Pink Firefish, and a bloodred shrimp.

I plan to add 2 false percs as the last addition to the tank.

I do plan to upgrade the tank to either a 75 or reverse 90 with sump in the next year but know not to plan based on an upgrade that could take longer to happen. So what I am wondering is do I have room to add one or two more or should i just add the clowns and call it a day till the upgrade? If i do have room what would people recomend that won't be too likly pick on the shrimp.

Iguana79 · 10/06/2010, 11:44 PM

When was the last time you added your last live stock? It takes a few weeks for bacteria to catch up. If you added everything at once.. I would say No and to slow down. If it has been at least a month (Just to make sure) There should be no issues adding the percs. That would be 7 Fish? Inverts don't really have much waste (Turbo Snails excepted they produce some good waste) But after the percs you might want to wait until you upgrade. Keep an eye on the water quality do test a week after you add the percs. If everything is stable.. Then you can MAYBE look at some smaller livestock.

m_wonnacott · 10/07/2010, 07:52 AM

sry the fish were added 1 at a time with the shrimp added with the Angel and the firefish with about 3 weeks between each addition starting two weeks after set-up. ( i did witness the cycle since i was testing daily) Nothing was added before the three weeks after an addition.

Ya at the earliest the percs would be added is at the three week mark and i do make sure to moniter after every addition. Nitrates after the last water change were less then 5 and i do feed a bit heavier but moniter nitrates and am ready to do a water change if i find they are getting high.

serpentman · 10/07/2010, 09:05 AM

The real answer depends on your future plans for this tank.

Do you plan to keep corals? If so, what kind?

m_wonnacott · 10/07/2010, 09:08 AM

The plan is to add a rose bubble tip anemone to this tank (when I get my ATI 6 bulb fixture) and when i do the upgrade i plan to so with a mixed tank with primarily softies thinking like 2 sps that are easy to keep and a couple lps. Yes i know when that time comes i may have issues with the coral beauty

serpentman · 10/07/2010, 09:17 AM

I'd say you'll be ok with adding a pair of clowns. Just remain diligent on water changes and make sure you're not overfeeding.

10/06/2010, 09:29 PM	#1
m_wonnacott Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stratford, Ontario Canada Posts: 631	Can i add more I am currently running a 55 gal that is atm sumpless and skimmerless. It has about 75 lbs of base rock that has been seeded with 5 lbs of live rock and fully cycled. Tank has been cycled for about 3 months. Current inhabitants are in order I added them 3 blue green cromis (no issues so far after three months), Royal Gramma Basslet, peppermint shrimp, Coral Beauty Angel adult(4"), Pink Firefish, and a bloodred shrimp. I plan to add 2 false percs as the last addition to the tank. I do plan to upgrade the tank to either a 75 or reverse 90 with sump in the next year but know not to plan based on an upgrade that could take longer to happen. So what I am wondering is do I have room to add one or two more or should i just add the clowns and call it a day till the upgrade? If i do have room what would people recomend that won't be too likly pick on the shrimp. __________________ 55 Gal about50 lbs of dead lr , 15 lbs lr to seed, 2x18" NO 50/50, penguin 350 with just carbon, pinpoint wireless therm, 300w heater, 2x korilia 3 Current Tank Info: 55 gal FOWLR atm

10/07/2010, 07:52 AM	#3
m_wonnacott Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stratford, Ontario Canada Posts: 631	sry the fish were added 1 at a time with the shrimp added with the Angel and the firefish with about 3 weeks between each addition starting two weeks after set-up. ( i did witness the cycle since i was testing daily) Nothing was added before the three weeks after an addition. Ya at the earliest the percs would be added is at the three week mark and i do make sure to moniter after every addition. Nitrates after the last water change were less then 5 and i do feed a bit heavier but moniter nitrates and am ready to do a water change if i find they are getting high. __________________ 55 Gal about50 lbs of dead lr , 15 lbs lr to seed, 2x18" NO 50/50, penguin 350 with just carbon, pinpoint wireless therm, 300w heater, 2x korilia 3 Current Tank Info: 55 gal FOWLR atm

10/07/2010, 09:05 AM	#4
serpentman part time superhero Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Deep in the Heart of the Snowbelt (NE OHIO) Posts: 5,698	The real answer depends on your future plans for this tank. Do you plan to keep corals? If so, what kind? __________________ BS in Marine Bio ('96), First SW tank in 1992. Current Tank(s) 300g SPS with 90g frag tank and 40 anemone tank - decommissioned 46g LPS/Softy Cube 300g FOWLR under construction - decommissioned

10/07/2010, 09:08 AM	#5
m_wonnacott Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stratford, Ontario Canada Posts: 631	The plan is to add a rose bubble tip anemone to this tank (when I get my ATI 6 bulb fixture) and when i do the upgrade i plan to so with a mixed tank with primarily softies thinking like 2 sps that are easy to keep and a couple lps. Yes i know when that time comes i may have issues with the coral beauty __________________ 55 Gal about50 lbs of dead lr , 15 lbs lr to seed, 2x18" NO 50/50, penguin 350 with just carbon, pinpoint wireless therm, 300w heater, 2x korilia 3 Current Tank Info: 55 gal FOWLR atm

10/07/2010, 09:17 AM	#6
serpentman part time superhero Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Deep in the Heart of the Snowbelt (NE OHIO) Posts: 5,698	I'd say you'll be ok with adding a pair of clowns. Just remain diligent on water changes and make sure you're not overfeeding. __________________ BS in Marine Bio ('96), First SW tank in 1992. Current Tank(s) 300g SPS with 90g frag tank and 40 anemone tank - decommissioned 46g LPS/Softy Cube 300g FOWLR under construction - decommissioned

10/06/2010, 11:44 PM	#2
Iguana79 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 124	When was the last time you added your last live stock? It takes a few weeks for bacteria to catch up. If you added everything at once.. I would say No and to slow down. If it has been at least a month (Just to make sure) There should be no issues adding the percs. That would be 7 Fish? Inverts don't really have much waste (Turbo Snails excepted they produce some good waste) But after the percs you might want to wait until you upgrade. Keep an eye on the water quality do test a week after you add the percs. If everything is stable.. Then you can MAYBE look at some smaller livestock.

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