minimum tank size for tangs?

gregmoeck · 10/24/2010, 02:53 PM

minimum tank size for tangs?

75, 90, 120, etc?

My tangs have outgrown my 38 gallon, and there is no way that I am going to take them back to the LFS and let someone else buy them and kill them.

strike2867 · 10/24/2010, 02:57 PM

Maybe somebody else can chime in, but for a pair of Blue Tangs you're looking at 180. Single is 125, but more than 1 in that size is dangerous.

goober35 · 10/24/2010, 03:16 PM

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=739380

Read this.

NYCBOB · 10/24/2010, 04:36 PM

if its just one tang, then 75 would do. if u can afford a bigger tank, get the biggest one. tangs like room to swim.

Scooter902 · 10/24/2010, 05:09 PM

75 gallons each

tkeracer619 · 10/24/2010, 07:35 PM

6ft 180 is a good size for tangs. How many and what kind are they.

If your upgrading for the fish then make sure to get the size right the first time so you don't have to upgrade again.

strike2867 · 10/24/2010, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkeracer619

6ft 180 is a good size for tangs. How many and what kind are they.

If your upgrading for the fish then make sure to get the size right the first time so you don't have to upgrade again.

Pair of Blue Tangs.

Jamesus · 10/24/2010, 09:42 PM

I have a powder blue and a yellow in my 90 and they seem healthy...

holdendaniel · 10/24/2010, 09:57 PM

you will get many differnt answers on this...its more what can you afford to do? Buy a new bigger tank(and equipment) ...the #1 thing is to have your fish happy....do what you have to

puffdaddy_1 · 10/24/2010, 10:06 PM

Yeah I agree. The bigger the tank is always the better with tangs. Put them in the biggest one you can afford.

langtudatinh01 · 10/24/2010, 11:52 PM

yup, as big as you can get or have space for. people love tangs because they are active and swim a lot, so you dont want to put too much rocks in there either. if you need them for filtration you can always put them into the sump or refugium. good luck.

serpentman · 10/25/2010, 05:19 AM

This subject is probably the most heavily debated in our hobby. Personally, I think 75g is sufficient for a small to medium specimen and 125+ for larger or multiple specimens.

The larger you go, the more the "rules" start to bend. I have 8 tangs (4x yellow, 1 x purple, 1 x bristletooth, 1 x morpho and 1 x vlamingi) in my 300g, all are thick and healthy and there are very few squabbles.

Pallobi · 10/25/2010, 07:07 AM

you have two tangs in a 38g? wow is bout all i have to say bout that... and where did he mention they were two blue tangs as someone mentioned? why would you even consider this? if it is blue tangs, even one needs a TON of swimming room... and if they are not, obviously you did NO research before purchasing these animals... you have no reason to beleive someone else will kill them as you are doin them (whatever kind they are) no justice by keeping them in a 38 gallon... and more than one on top of it? sorry, but this is kind of disturbing...

gregmoeck · 10/25/2010, 07:24 AM

yeah they were tiny babies and have grown up together. They get along great, at least they are still alive, most of them get bought by novice aquarium people who use tap water and kill every fish they buy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4uVnhBRN0A

Pallobi · 10/25/2010, 08:24 AM

dont get me wrong, i believe in giving a better home, and myself have been a culprit in wrong housing for certain species... and i always feel i will try harder than most of the next people who could get the fish or coral, though i am no expert

i applaud your recognition that they need a bigger home as well, and urge to do so... i seriously would recommend nothing shorter than a 6' tank... there are nice 6' 100 gallons out there... usually 72L x 18d x 18h, or something like that, but i really like them, will be my next tank... this would work very well for quite some time and gives you a great length without goin crazy on the gallonage... length has so much more to do with tangs than depth as they need to be able to swim much more freely over distance than your average fish... lots of flow also is good for keeping active swimmers as they usually have a higher and more complex metablolism... Good luck

bsagecko · 10/25/2010, 09:31 AM

Just get the biggest tank you can afford....buy a quality used aquarium if possible you will pay like have the cost of the orginial price and usually get many years of service out of it....maybe try your local area club....for used equipment

frankpayne32 · 10/25/2010, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strike2867

Maybe somebody else can chime in, but for a pair of Blue Tangs you're looking at 180. Single is 125, but more than 1 in that size is dangerous.

Personally, I disagree with this. IME more than one tang (not a sohal) can be kept in a six foot long 125. I have done this personally and seen it done successfully many times. But again, tank size is a very subjective thing.

frankpayne32 · 10/25/2010, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsagecko

Just get the biggest tank you can afford....buy a quality used aquarium if possible you will pay like have the cost of the orginial price and usually get many years of service out of it....maybe try your local area club....for used equipment

I agree with this. Buy the biggest one you have room for. In the long run, buying the actual aquarium is a drop in the bucket in terms of what you will spend on a quality set up.

TampaReefer79 · 10/25/2010, 09:50 AM

I don't usually like to give my opinion in these tang threads but I guess I'll give it a whirl.

I personally don't like the 'buy the biggest tank you can afford' theory. The biggest tank the OP can afford and what the fish needs are completely different things. What if the OP can only afford an upgrade to a 55? This will suffice because it's all he can afford? I say if you can't afford the proper tank, you shouldn't have the fish. 2 hippos in a 38 gallon tank is beyond insane.

strike2867 · 10/25/2010, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankpayne32

Personally, I disagree with this. IME more than one tang (not a sohal) can be kept in a six foot long 125. I have done this personally and seen it done successfully many times. But again, tank size is a very subjective thing.

I said it because the tangs are the exact same species.

frankpayne32 · 10/25/2010, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strike2867

I said it because the tangs are the exact same species.

I understand and I would possibly agree if the two were of different sizes added at different times. But since they have "grown up" together I doubt it would be a problem. But again, that is just IME and IMO, not cold hard fact.

zachfishman · 10/25/2010, 12:52 PM

Depends on the tang, 75 is a good start for yellow, kole, and scopas tangs.

chimmike · 10/25/2010, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachfishman

Depends on the tang, 75 is a good start for yellow, kole, and scopas tangs.

but not all three together in a 75g, haha

RVANANO · 10/25/2010, 01:06 PM

I am the tang police and I approve this message

hoffy02 · 10/25/2010, 01:10 PM

IBTL and ill take a page as well

10/24/2010, 03:16 PM	#3
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10/24/2010, 05:09 PM	#5
Scooter902 Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: MI Posts: 152	75 gallons each __________________ “There are a terrible lot of lies going about the world, and the worst of it is that half of them are true.” Current Tank Info: 40B mixed reef

10/24/2010, 07:35 PM	#6
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	6ft 180 is a good size for tangs. How many and what kind are they. If your upgrading for the fish then make sure to get the size right the first time so you don't have to upgrade again. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

10/24/2010, 10:06 PM	#10
puffdaddy_1 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 621	Yeah I agree. The bigger the tank is always the better with tangs. Put them in the biggest one you can afford. __________________ "We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors, and furniture polish is made with real lemons"--Alfred E. Newman Current Tank Info: 72 gallon bowfront, mag 7, aquapro refugium, dual pendant 2 250 hqi de lighting,

10/24/2010, 11:52 PM	#11
langtudatinh01 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 399	yup, as big as you can get or have space for. people love tangs because they are active and swim a lot, so you dont want to put too much rocks in there either. if you need them for filtration you can always put them into the sump or refugium. good luck. __________________ Tuanito Tranito Current Tank Info: my little heaven: 40 Breeder nano reeftank (1 year old-refugium/sump 20 gallons)

10/24/2010, 02:53 PM	#1
gregmoeck Moved On Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Louisville,KY Posts: 709	minimum tank size for tangs? minimum tank size for tangs? 75, 90, 120, etc? My tangs have outgrown my 38 gallon, and there is no way that I am going to take them back to the LFS and let someone else buy them and kill them.

10/24/2010, 02:57 PM	#2
strike2867 Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buffalo Grove, IL Posts: 700	Maybe somebody else can chime in, but for a pair of Blue Tangs you're looking at 180. Single is 125, but more than 1 in that size is dangerous.

10/24/2010, 04:36 PM	#4
NYCBOB Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 1,768	if its just one tang, then 75 would do. if u can afford a bigger tank, get the biggest one. tangs like room to swim.

10/24/2010, 09:42 PM	#8
Jamesus Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 168	I have a powder blue and a yellow in my 90 and they seem healthy...

10/24/2010, 09:57 PM	#9
holdendaniel Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 58	you will get many differnt answers on this...its more what can you afford to do? Buy a new bigger tank(and equipment) ...the #1 thing is to have your fish happy....do what you have to

10/25/2010, 05:19 AM	#12
serpentman part time superhero Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Deep in the Heart of the Snowbelt (NE OHIO) Posts: 5,698	This subject is probably the most heavily debated in our hobby. Personally, I think 75g is sufficient for a small to medium specimen and 125+ for larger or multiple specimens. The larger you go, the more the "rules" start to bend. I have 8 tangs (4x yellow, 1 x purple, 1 x bristletooth, 1 x morpho and 1 x vlamingi) in my 300g, all are thick and healthy and there are very few squabbles. __________________ BS in Marine Bio ('96), First SW tank in 1992. Current Tank(s) 300g SPS with 90g frag tank and 40 anemone tank - decommissioned 46g LPS/Softy Cube 300g FOWLR under construction - decommissioned

10/25/2010, 07:07 AM	#13
Pallobi CTARS, BRS & OSRAS Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 7,001	you have two tangs in a 38g? wow is bout all i have to say bout that... and where did he mention they were two blue tangs as someone mentioned? why would you even consider this? if it is blue tangs, even one needs a TON of swimming room... and if they are not, obviously you did NO research before purchasing these animals... you have no reason to beleive someone else will kill them as you are doin them (whatever kind they are) no justice by keeping them in a 38 gallon... and more than one on top of it? sorry, but this is kind of disturbing... __________________ Zoas & Palys

10/25/2010, 07:24 AM	#14
gregmoeck Moved On Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Louisville,KY Posts: 709	yeah they were tiny babies and have grown up together. They get along great, at least they are still alive, most of them get bought by novice aquarium people who use tap water and kill every fish they buy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4uVnhBRN0A

10/25/2010, 08:24 AM	#15
Pallobi CTARS, BRS & OSRAS Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 7,001	dont get me wrong, i believe in giving a better home, and myself have been a culprit in wrong housing for certain species... and i always feel i will try harder than most of the next people who could get the fish or coral, though i am no expert i applaud your recognition that they need a bigger home as well, and urge to do so... i seriously would recommend nothing shorter than a 6' tank... there are nice 6' 100 gallons out there... usually 72L x 18d x 18h, or something like that, but i really like them, will be my next tank... this would work very well for quite some time and gives you a great length without goin crazy on the gallonage... length has so much more to do with tangs than depth as they need to be able to swim much more freely over distance than your average fish... lots of flow also is good for keeping active swimmers as they usually have a higher and more complex metablolism... Good luck __________________ Zoas & Palys

10/25/2010, 09:31 AM	#16
bsagecko Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,752	Just get the biggest tank you can afford....buy a quality used aquarium if possible you will pay like have the cost of the orginial price and usually get many years of service out of it....maybe try your local area club....for used equipment __________________ There are three things that will never be believed- the true, the probable, the logical (Steinbeck) Obey little, Resist much Current Tank Info: 24g AIO

10/25/2010, 09:50 AM	#19
TampaReefer79 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 3,448	I don't usually like to give my opinion in these tang threads but I guess I'll give it a whirl. I personally don't like the 'buy the biggest tank you can afford' theory. The biggest tank the OP can afford and what the fish needs are completely different things. What if the OP can only afford an upgrade to a 55? This will suffice because it's all he can afford? I say if you can't afford the proper tank, you shouldn't have the fish. 2 hippos in a 38 gallon tank is beyond insane.

10/25/2010, 12:52 PM	#22
zachfishman Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St Petersburg, FL Posts: 3,577	Depends on the tang, 75 is a good start for yellow, kole, and scopas tangs. __________________ Patience is a reefer's best tool. Secret Xenia lover. M.S. Marine Biology Staff - Marine Discovery Center, St. Petersburg FL Tampa Bay Reef Club BOD 2018 Current Tank Info: 34g modded Solana

10/25/2010, 01:06 PM	#24
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	I am the tang police and I approve this message

10/25/2010, 01:10 PM	#25
hoffy02 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Crosby, TX. Posts: 399	IBTL and ill take a page as well

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