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Unread 11/03/2010, 06:59 AM   #1
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6bulb vs 4bulb on a 40br

im looking to get a light fixture for my 40g breeder. i've found a good deal on a used nova extreme pro 6x39 with 4 ati blue +, 1 KZ fiji purple and 1 GE 6500k, bulbs about 6months old. i am looking at the fishneedit fixture 4x39, which i've read good things about on various forums.

i'd love to go with the extreme pro but i'd be worried about bleaching corals. i plan on a few SPS but i'd like more LPS and soft corals


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Unread 11/03/2010, 08:27 AM   #2
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I doubt you will bleach anything with the Nova.

Go with the 6 bulb for sure or you will regret it, I promise. I haven't found a great 4 bulb combo yet. I run 2 ATI Blue Plus, 1 KZ Fiji Purple and 1 ATI Aquablue. It is too white and washes out some colors but there really isn't a bulb that I can replace the Aquablue with and not make the tank way too blue.

Really wish I had a 6 bulb unit.


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Ryan, that's interesting as its the exact bulb combo I would like to run. Luckily I will have other bulbs to play with before making an actual purchase..


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I have a 40B mixed reef. My 4 bulb Sundial is more than enough for my corals but if I did it all over again I would go with 6 just for added color options/variation. Keep in mind your tank is only 16" high so you really don't need a ton of light unless you are focusing on more light demanding animals. Again, my SPS are doing great under 4 bulbs and a few are only midway up in the tank. HTH


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Unread 11/03/2010, 10:07 AM   #5
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Ryan, that's interesting as its the exact bulb combo I would like to run. Luckily I will have other bulbs to play with before making an actual purchase..
I would use a KZ New Generation in place of the Aquablue.

They are slightly bluer overall but I have heard they lose their blue after 3-4 months. I tried getting one back in July but the guy ripped me off and I never got my bulbs.

I hope to have one within a few weeks though.


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I doubt you will bleach anything with the Nova.

Go with the 6 bulb for sure or you will regret it, I promise. I haven't found a great 4 bulb combo yet. I run 2 ATI Blue Plus, 1 KZ Fiji Purple and 1 ATI Aquablue. It is too white and washes out some colors but there really isn't a bulb that I can replace the Aquablue with and not make the tank way too blue.

Really wish I had a 6 bulb unit.
Ryan, have you tried a KZ new generation or a Aquascience duo in place of the Aquablue? I have the same situation as you and either of these helps in getting rid of some of the white.


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Ryan, have you tried a KZ new generation or a Aquascience duo in place of the Aquablue? I have the same situation as you and either of these helps in getting rid of some of the white.
I have heard the New Generation is the bluest of the daylight bulbs. I have seen one in person and it was bluer but I am not sure how much bluer.

Is the Aquascience or New Gen bluer?


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We must have posted within seconds of each other, I actually like the Aquascience duo better. Slightly more blue than the new generation.


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We just did it again! LOL


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Both of them are bluer than the Aquablue. The Aquascience duo looks slightly bluer than the new generation.


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Unread 11/03/2010, 06:35 PM   #11
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well i went with the NEP, i should be getting it on monday


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I doubt you will bleach anything with the Nova.

Go with the 6 bulb for sure or you will regret it, I promise. I haven't found a great 4 bulb combo yet. I run 2 ATI Blue Plus, 1 KZ Fiji Purple and 1 ATI Aquablue. It is too white and washes out some colors but there really isn't a bulb that I can replace the Aquablue with and not make the tank way too blue.

Really wish I had a 6 bulb unit.
try 3 giesemann atinic plus ( or the ati equivalent) and a 1 fiji! you'll like it if you like a 20kish look. I have that as my supplements and when the halides turn off i love the look of that combo! i don't particularly like any of the 14k bulbs


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try 3 giesemann atinic plus ( or the ati equivalent) and a 1 fiji! you'll like it if you like a 20kish look. I have that as my supplements and when the halides turn off i love the look of that combo! i don't particularly like any of the 14k bulbs
What's the PAR like on this setup though?


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What's the PAR like on this setup though?
don't know exactly but on a 40br, i think it would be enough to keep just about anything. see attached http://web1.reefcentral.com/forums/s...ostid=11462207


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What's the PAR like on this setup though?

3 ATI Blue Plus and 1 ATI Purple Plus will be about the highest PAR combo you can run.

ATI Blue Plus bulbs have one of, if not, the highest PAR ratings available.


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