Reef Central Online Community

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > General Interest Forums > New to the Hobby
Blogs FAQ Calendar

Notices

User Tag List

Reply
Thread Tools
Unread 12/06/2010, 05:27 PM   #1
DoubleM 10
Registered Member
 
DoubleM 10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Steamwood, IL
Posts: 1,432
Question Long VS Tall VS Deep??

what are the benifits to having a long vs a tall vs a deep tank?


__________________
Matt

Lions, Groupers and Eels o my!

Current Tank Info: Marineland 60Gal ReefReady cube, DIY led, Euroreef Skimmer Ins-80, Mag 9.5 return
DoubleM 10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 05:34 PM   #2
Palting
Registered Member
 
Palting's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Ohio
Posts: 6,912
I like a tank that is long (side to side), deep (front to back), and not tall (vertical length). Long means more swim length for fish and a more panoramic view for you, deep means a good sense of depth and nicer aquascaping, and not tall so there are more options on lights.


__________________
Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :)

Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 50g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, 3 cardinals, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam
Palting is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 05:38 PM   #3
OH GOD
Registered Member
 
OH GOD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Florida
Posts: 96
I will say this, a 30 inch tall tank is a pain in the but to work in. ( wet arm pits )

I also dont think my lighting is all that great for the depth.

Duel 250 MH 15K and Two 110 watt daylight VHO and Two 40 watt antic VHO.



OH GOD is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 05:47 PM   #4
zachfishman
Registered Member
 
zachfishman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: St Petersburg, FL
Posts: 3,577
^^^+1 I think a 24" tall tank is a good maximum; you can still reach pretty much everywhere. That being said, I really like the looks of deeper tanks, it makes aquascaping easier and is just appealing overall. Great tanks with relatively deeper dimensions are the 40 breeder (36"x18"x16") and (personal favorite) the standard 120 (48"x24"x24").


__________________
Patience is a reefer's best tool.
Secret Xenia lover. M.S. Marine Biology
Staff - Marine Discovery Center, St. Petersburg FL
Tampa Bay Reef Club BOD 2018

Current Tank Info: 34g modded Solana
zachfishman is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 05:48 PM   #5
seapug
Registered Member
 
seapug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: 4980 ft.
Posts: 7,954
Blog Entries: 1
wide, shallow tanks (think shallow cube or tidepool) are easier to work in, allow for a more natural aquascape, easier to light and allow for better gas exchange.


__________________
insert clever saying here.

Current Tank Info: 200 gallon custom Marineland DD peninsular tank. LPS dominated mixed reef. Previous 90 gallon mixed reef TOTM April 2009.
seapug is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 05:51 PM   #6
dzfish17
Registered Member
 
dzfish17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Fresno,Ca.
Posts: 2,545
Palting is right. Long and wide are great. For a reef tank I wouldnt go tall but if youre doing FO than height isnt that important. I have a really tall tank and I love the height. A pair of tongs and Im good to go.

Dave


__________________
600g (96x36x46) FOWLR
dzfish17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 06:23 PM   #7
DoubleM 10
Registered Member
 
DoubleM 10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Steamwood, IL
Posts: 1,432
well most of those make sence. i have a 30 gal tall. i like it. pushed all the rocks to the back. lion hides in there and the clown is out front.

i agree getting your whole arm wet sucks(im 6'4. i have a large wingspan)

i also have a 55long and like the look of to. i think the tall is good for the fish i have in it. i also like it because i can see alot more. ( i mean less is hidden cause its not far from any point to another)

if i want to upgrade sometime it will be a tough decision. What made you pick the setups you have?


__________________
Matt

Lions, Groupers and Eels o my!

Current Tank Info: Marineland 60Gal ReefReady cube, DIY led, Euroreef Skimmer Ins-80, Mag 9.5 return
DoubleM 10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 06:33 PM   #8
OH GOD
Registered Member
 
OH GOD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Florida
Posts: 96
Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleM 10 View Post
What made you pick the setups you have?
Thats easy, my tank was free all i had to do was build the stand and sump etc.


OH GOD is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 06:46 PM   #9
dzfish17
Registered Member
 
dzfish17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Fresno,Ca.
Posts: 2,545
Im a by-product of BTS (big tank syndrome). Guys like me keep going bigger and bigger until we finally cant go any bigger and then we stop and wonder why we have a 600g tank in our living room. Mine was free too (jackpot in vegas).

Dave


__________________
600g (96x36x46) FOWLR
dzfish17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 06:56 PM   #10
Sk8r
RC Mod
 
Sk8r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 34,628
Blog Entries: 55
A long tank is the best sort of tank for tangs and other distance swimmers of the reef. That's in the 48" and longer sort of 'long'.


__________________
Sk8r

Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low.

Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.
Sk8r is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 07:11 PM   #11
DoubleM 10
Registered Member
 
DoubleM 10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Steamwood, IL
Posts: 1,432
yeah my 55gal is 48" long. i like the look of it. where it sits the wall is recesd. so it looks great while not being deap


__________________
Matt

Lions, Groupers and Eels o my!

Current Tank Info: Marineland 60Gal ReefReady cube, DIY led, Euroreef Skimmer Ins-80, Mag 9.5 return
DoubleM 10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 08:45 PM   #12
seapug
Registered Member
 
seapug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: 4980 ft.
Posts: 7,954
Blog Entries: 1
My problem with long narrow tanks like 55s is they are so narrow the fish do that pacing back and forth thing. I find that unsettling to watch. If you like the length of a 55 go with a standard 75. If you want more height then go up to a 90. All are 48" long. Just my .02.


__________________
insert clever saying here.

Current Tank Info: 200 gallon custom Marineland DD peninsular tank. LPS dominated mixed reef. Previous 90 gallon mixed reef TOTM April 2009.
seapug is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 08:50 PM   #13
zachfishman
Registered Member
 
zachfishman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: St Petersburg, FL
Posts: 3,577
Quote:
Originally Posted by seapug View Post
My problem with long narrow tanks like 55s is they are so narrow the fish do that pacing back and forth thing. I find that unsettling to watch. If you like the length of a 55 go with a standard 75. If you want more height then go up to a 90. Just my .02.
And if you like the 90 why not a 120? ...and if you want more height get a 150g tall! It never ends haha! I saw a beautifully done 150 tall at an LFS in upstate New York, sucker had several 400w MH pendents to get enough light penetration!


__________________
Patience is a reefer's best tool.
Secret Xenia lover. M.S. Marine Biology
Staff - Marine Discovery Center, St. Petersburg FL
Tampa Bay Reef Club BOD 2018

Current Tank Info: 34g modded Solana
zachfishman is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 09:01 PM   #14
willy7499
Registered Member
 
willy7499's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 63
My practical limit is 25" deep. Past that I can't easily use just my hands in the tank to move items or pick things out.

Length is a different matter though. My 120 is 48" long and now I want a 180 (60" long). The aforementioned Big Tank Syndrome!

I have also read that you should have the height less than the depth of the tank for proper gas exchange for a healthier tank.


willy7499 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 09:14 PM   #15
tcmfish
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,658
IMO, which is different from most, I really dislike shallow tanks. When you have a fish like a large angel or tang that can get 5, 6, 7 inches tall and the tank is only 12-18" deep, not the tank dimensions but the swimming space dimensions, so don't include sand bed depth in tank depth, it looks really weird.

I think all dimensions are crucial, and we shouldn't be limited by our armpits getting wet. Tall tanks offer a good spawning rise for pelagic fish, which many reefers don't care about, but they also offer ample room for gorgonians and staghorn corals to actually grow.

I often wonder when people stack their rocks up to inches within the surface only to put acros on it, when those corals branch out and get large.

I don't have money or permanent enough residence to do it (school), but I think some of the most asthetically pleasing tanks would be those that are tall but still have an interesting scape front to back (yes depth is important) and top to bottom, but with about 2 feet off the top of the scape for things to grow in and fish to cruise over the top of the reef. So like a 4 foot deep tank, maybe 3 or 4 feet from to back, and at least 6 feet in length, but probably more.

Its all personal preference though


tcmfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 09:42 PM   #16
JByer323
Registered Member
 
JByer323's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Noblesville, IN
Posts: 67
I love wide, shallow tanks.


__________________
Once in a while you get shown the light,
in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

Current Tank Info: 28g JBJ Nano Cube LED
JByer323 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 11:19 PM   #17
seapug
Registered Member
 
seapug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: 4980 ft.
Posts: 7,954
Blog Entries: 1
I completely understand your point tcm, especially in fish only tanks, but from a reef tank perspective, if the tank is not big enough to swim in, I want to be able to reach the bottom with my hand.


__________________
insert clever saying here.

Current Tank Info: 200 gallon custom Marineland DD peninsular tank. LPS dominated mixed reef. Previous 90 gallon mixed reef TOTM April 2009.
seapug is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 11:21 PM   #18
Sapooloo
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 47
long


Sapooloo is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 11:29 PM   #19
Mylilreef
Registered Member
 
Mylilreef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 304
i bought my 150 tall for specific reasons. first off i wanted 24" depth for some nice aquascaping (my current 12" just isn't enough for me) second i live in an apartment and space is an issue 48" in length is more practical to find a space than say 72" and nowhere to even sit. third i just kinda like that 30" tall because if you have any tall growing corals you can actually keep them underwater.

i would go longer if i had the space, but to me depth is the most important of the 3. i will never go less than 24" deep again.


__________________
-Cory

Current Tank Info: 55g mixed reef (upgrading to 150g Tall), 30g Long w/softies(soon to be a sump for the 150g), 20g Tall mixed, 5g w/softies, 10g quarantine that somehow turned into another softy tank
Mylilreef is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 11:37 PM   #20
Palting
Registered Member
 
Palting's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Ohio
Posts: 6,912
Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleM 10 View Post
What made you pick the setups you have?
Cost, mostly. I wanted a long tank, long as in 72" long. My budget, with lights, sump, skimmer, stand and canopy, topped out at the 125 gal, so that's what I ordered. They made a mistake and sent me a 150 instead


__________________
Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :)

Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 50g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, 3 cardinals, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam
Palting is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/06/2010, 11:47 PM   #21
Brando457
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Caldwell, NJ
Posts: 1,281
I want a 48 x 48 x 21 tank or even a 72 x 36 x 21(24 maybe!)

I currently have a 180, but when I get my own place and am more set and done with school I'd like to get a nice big cube that is viewable on all sides.


Brando457 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/07/2010, 12:47 AM   #22
jrapp13
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 73
Long and shallow tanks are preferred because of improved gas exchange due to increase surface area and less lightning needed to penetrate to the bottom. My ideal tank would be a 72x24x24 because you can still get by with 250w MH and the 6ft length is alot of swimming room. Currently have a 40 breeder that I just started up which has a nice depth and remains shallow.


jrapp13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/07/2010, 08:25 AM   #23
Kweli
Registered Member
 
Kweli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 221
I like long & deep..

DEEP looks nice, until you realize you need to do work on the bottom... which means you will get very wet. It will stop you from doing alot of work

I would stay around/below the 20" tall range


Kweli is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Enough light for 150 tall? nanshaw2001 Lighting, Filtration & Other Equipment 9 08/19/2010 07:49 PM
20gal QT tank..... long or tall? sikpupy Reef Discussion 4 08/08/2008 04:59 PM
2x150 or 2x250 for 36" long, 20" tall tank ??? tadashi123 Lighting, Filtration & Other Equipment 3 09/26/2007 02:22 AM
Tall, or deep... Tank help plz. SquidHC New to the Hobby 15 09/04/2007 01:42 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2025 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright ©1999-2022
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.