Reef Koi's Led Unit

GR214 · 03/02/2011, 09:24 AM

I recently purchased the reef Koi led unit 120w 20k system for my 60 gal cube I was wondering if anyone had feed back regarding this fixture or better options as I still have time to cancel since they didnt have them in stock when I placed the order.

TheFishMan65 · 03/02/2011, 09:34 AM

Do you have a link?

GR214 · 03/02/2011, 09:35 AM

http://reefkoi.com/index.php?main_pa...roducts_id=840

There you go

TheFishMan65 · 03/02/2011, 11:27 AM

1 watt LEDs tend to be less efficient than the 3 watt version, so you will pay more for electricity. I am not familiar with the 1 watt version of LEDs (I also did not see what kind listed), but it would not surprise me if you end up needing 2.

GR214 · 03/02/2011, 11:48 AM

really can you recommend another to me for a 24x24x24 tank.

TheFishMan65 · 03/02/2011, 12:04 PM

No, I built my own

I would look for something that uses 3 watt LEDs. But then I think the price may double.

GR214 · 03/02/2011, 12:05 PM

Price at this point is not a huge issue I am finally just happy to get another tank going in a location that I am staying in for the next 10 years lol. No more apts for me the deal with my fiance I buy you a house I get my tank back. I just want to make sure its done right at this point. Thanks for you input it brings things into perspective for me

scuzy · 03/02/2011, 12:10 PM

Well for what it's worth i have 2 200watt units G2 coming in soon for my 72" tank. From all the info i gather they are pretty good lights. Of course they're not the 3 watt units you see all over the place.

GR214 · 03/02/2011, 12:12 PM

Can you shoot me a link so I can take a look at them?

TheFishMan65 · 03/02/2011, 12:12 PM

Are you willing to build it yourself? That might be another option to keep the price down.

GR214 · 03/02/2011, 12:13 PM

Yeah I dont have a problem with that at all it would be my first time and at this point I am not rushing my build so it is an option

scuzy · 03/02/2011, 12:18 PM

My lights should be here next week. I'll take some pics when i am finish installing. Right now i am trying to get my tank back into serviceable order been neglecting it's inhabitants the last 2-3 years. I just got the hair algae under control. the 200watt units i got are these

http://reefkoi.com/index.php?main_pa...oducts_id=1552

Chris has been pretty good at keeping me in the loop on the light.

GR214 · 03/02/2011, 12:23 PM

Cool deal yeah I talked to chris also as my light is currently not in stock thats why I am making sure this is the light for me.

koga57 · 03/02/2011, 03:06 PM

You will like the 120W. It is bright !!

b16drag · 03/02/2011, 11:59 PM

The whole "3-watt LED's are more efficient than 1-watt LED's" is a bunch of BS. It really depends on so many factor including manufacturer and drivers etc. One of the biggest reasons why 3-watts are so popular is because most of the DIY'ers are using them. Just like how CREE is the almighty LED. LOL!

TheFishMan65 · 03/03/2011, 07:08 AM

I suppose that is somewhat true. Lumens/watt is highly dependent on the current (hence the voltage going through the LED). I have not looked at the lumens/watt ratio for and LEDs under 3 watts. However I think you will agree LEDs are getting more efficient. So generally speaking since 3 w are newer so they tend they are more efficient.

The reason most DIYer are using them is that they are the most efficient at the power we are running them at. So even though they cost more over time that is saved in electricity.

Some people are also moving away form CREE because they are looking for a specific color. But color is very much personal preference.

Anemonebuff · 03/03/2011, 10:17 AM

AI sol blue would be my choice if price is not a big deal.

GR214 · 03/03/2011, 12:11 PM

I will take a look at the unit thanks for all the feedback!

scuzy · 03/03/2011, 12:20 PM

yeah I think the evolution units were reviewed by reef builder a while back and it's got a decent feedbacks.

lucidvtec · 03/03/2011, 12:35 PM

the BIG difference between 1 watt and 3 watt LEDs is water penetration!!!!

1watts are NOT gonna penetrate that deep into the water....THAT is why people prefer the 3 watts

and the 3 watts are more effeicent than a 1 watt as far as Power to par measurements

the Maxspect units are a REALLY good entry level LED unit...the semi led's are proving to be comparable to the Cree setups

althought you can build urself a DIY Cree LED fixture for the price of a Maxspect with semi's

scuzy · 03/03/2011, 12:39 PM

Sometimes having a fabricated unit is better than DIY for aesthetic portion of things but if you don't care go for whatever works best for you.

NyReefNoob · 03/03/2011, 02:17 PM

and those same unit's u can google and get for almost half the price, they all are coming from china, and just putting their name on them same as a ton of other companies are doing. found the 120w units with 2 switch's for $175 shipped, personally if $ wasnt a issue id go with the aqua illuminations or a pac sun

03/02/2011, 09:24 AM	#1
GR214 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San antonio tx Posts: 112	Reef Koi's Led Unit I recently purchased the reef Koi led unit 120w 20k system for my 60 gal cube I was wondering if anyone had feed back regarding this fixture or better options as I still have time to cancel since they didnt have them in stock when I placed the order.

03/02/2011, 03:06 PM	#14
koga57 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DFW-Texas Posts: 114	You will like the 120W. It is bright !! __________________ Deep Sea Aquatics 185, Trigger Sys Elite refugium/sump, Sunlight Tek T-5 lighting..Mixed reef with a good variety of corals and fish. Current Tank Info: 90 gallon RR: ADHI - 45 refugium: As of June 2009, we are getting back "in" so to speak and we will have a mixed reef

03/03/2011, 02:17 PM	#22
NyReefNoob skimmer freak Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: peekskill, ny Posts: 1,209	and those same unit's u can google and get for almost half the price, they all are coming from china, and just putting their name on them same as a ton of other companies are doing. found the 120w units with 2 switch's for $175 shipped, personally if $ wasnt a issue id go with the aqua illuminations or a pac sun __________________ custom 45g cube all in one, ai hydra 26, 2 mp10w, ac jr. ,bubble magnus triple doser, bm nac5 hob skimmer My dad always said the only stupid questions are the ones not asked Current Tank Info: custom 45g cube AIO

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03/02/2011, 09:34 AM	#2
TheFishMan65 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,618	Do you have a link?

03/02/2011, 09:35 AM	#3
GR214 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San antonio tx Posts: 112	http://reefkoi.com/index.php?main_pa...roducts_id=840 There you go

03/02/2011, 11:27 AM	#4
TheFishMan65 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,618	1 watt LEDs tend to be less efficient than the 3 watt version, so you will pay more for electricity. I am not familiar with the 1 watt version of LEDs (I also did not see what kind listed), but it would not surprise me if you end up needing 2.

03/02/2011, 11:48 AM	#5
GR214 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San antonio tx Posts: 112	really can you recommend another to me for a 24x24x24 tank.

03/02/2011, 12:04 PM	#6
TheFishMan65 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,618	No, I built my own I would look for something that uses 3 watt LEDs. But then I think the price may double.

03/02/2011, 12:05 PM	#7
GR214 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San antonio tx Posts: 112	Price at this point is not a huge issue I am finally just happy to get another tank going in a location that I am staying in for the next 10 years lol. No more apts for me the deal with my fiance I buy you a house I get my tank back. I just want to make sure its done right at this point. Thanks for you input it brings things into perspective for me

03/02/2011, 12:10 PM	#8
scuzy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6,499	Well for what it's worth i have 2 200watt units G2 coming in soon for my 72" tank. From all the info i gather they are pretty good lights. Of course they're not the 3 watt units you see all over the place.

03/02/2011, 12:12 PM	#9
GR214 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San antonio tx Posts: 112	Can you shoot me a link so I can take a look at them?

03/02/2011, 12:13 PM	#11
GR214 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San antonio tx Posts: 112	Yeah I dont have a problem with that at all it would be my first time and at this point I am not rushing my build so it is an option

03/02/2011, 12:18 PM	#12
scuzy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6,499	My lights should be here next week. I'll take some pics when i am finish installing. Right now i am trying to get my tank back into serviceable order been neglecting it's inhabitants the last 2-3 years. I just got the hair algae under control. the 200watt units i got are these http://reefkoi.com/index.php?main_pa...oducts_id=1552 Chris has been pretty good at keeping me in the loop on the light.

03/02/2011, 12:23 PM	#13
GR214 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San antonio tx Posts: 112	Cool deal yeah I talked to chris also as my light is currently not in stock thats why I am making sure this is the light for me.

03/02/2011, 11:59 PM	#15
b16drag Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California Posts: 903	The whole "3-watt LED's are more efficient than 1-watt LED's" is a bunch of BS. It really depends on so many factor including manufacturer and drivers etc. One of the biggest reasons why 3-watts are so popular is because most of the DIY'ers are using them. Just like how CREE is the almighty LED. LOL!

03/03/2011, 07:08 AM	#16
TheFishMan65 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,618	I suppose that is somewhat true. Lumens/watt is highly dependent on the current (hence the voltage going through the LED). I have not looked at the lumens/watt ratio for and LEDs under 3 watts. However I think you will agree LEDs are getting more efficient. So generally speaking since 3 w are newer so they tend they are more efficient. The reason most DIYer are using them is that they are the most efficient at the power we are running them at. So even though they cost more over time that is saved in electricity. Some people are also moving away form CREE because they are looking for a specific color. But color is very much personal preference.

03/03/2011, 10:17 AM	#17
Anemonebuff Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: LI,NY Posts: 3,877	AI sol blue would be my choice if price is not a big deal.

03/03/2011, 12:11 PM	#18
GR214 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San antonio tx Posts: 112	I will take a look at the unit thanks for all the feedback!

03/03/2011, 12:20 PM	#19
scuzy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6,499	yeah I think the evolution units were reviewed by reef builder a while back and it's got a decent feedbacks.

03/03/2011, 12:35 PM	#20
lucidvtec avid Reefer Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chandler Posts: 828	the BIG difference between 1 watt and 3 watt LEDs is water penetration!!!! 1watts are NOT gonna penetrate that deep into the water....THAT is why people prefer the 3 watts and the 3 watts are more effeicent than a 1 watt as far as Power to par measurements the Maxspect units are a REALLY good entry level LED unit...the semi led's are proving to be comparable to the Cree setups althought you can build urself a DIY Cree LED fixture for the price of a Maxspect with semi's

03/03/2011, 12:39 PM	#21
scuzy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6,499	Sometimes having a fabricated unit is better than DIY for aesthetic portion of things but if you don't care go for whatever works best for you.