"tanked" the show

baby1- · 09/08/2011, 04:50 AM

it doesn't appear that they use ro di , or even cycle the systems, has anybody else noticed that?

walvis · 09/08/2011, 05:08 AM

It may have been edited.
I do wonder how they get away with certain things though, like cutting up a wall to make things fit, because a miss calculation on their part.

Soopabruva1 · 09/08/2011, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by walvis

It may have been edited.
I do wonder how they get away with certain things though, like cutting up a wall to make things fit, because a miss calculation on their part.

It has to be edited, lets be honest even to us some of the things that go into building a system can be boring/ repetitive to watch. lol
BTW, I'm pretty sure there is a thread already on here about the show, but search pulls up every thread with tank in though which is alot.

alton · 09/08/2011, 05:24 AM

This show just like Sons of Guns (which I like to watch)has a lot of acting to make them interesting to watch. The cool part of Tanked is the actual tanks they make, the boring part is the fact they can not or do not setup coral tanks.

reeferstace · 09/08/2011, 06:08 AM

I hate how they put fake coral in every tank, even the freshwater ones.

yellowRubi · 09/08/2011, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by reeferstace

I hate how they put fake coral in every tank, even the freshwater ones.

everything is fake coral in this show....

jeff@zina.com · 09/08/2011, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by yellowRubi

everything is fake coral in this show....

They do fish only.

Keep in mind, this is "reality TV." Which means it's as real as the director and editor decide it should be for entertainment.

Jeff

snorvich · 09/08/2011, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jeff@zina.com

They do fish only.

Keep in mind, this is "reality TV." Which means it's as real as the director and editor decide it should be for entertainment.

Jeff

For sure. And not very real world in any case.

shayna123 · 09/08/2011, 07:04 AM

This show is funny though. I have seen them fill the tank with a hose then dump a bag of salt right in the tank. Then it seems like that same day they put the fish in, is this possible? I love the creativity of the designs and how they put thought into the personalities of the fish. Also that fish place they go to to buy all their fish is awesome - I want to go there - wonder if it is open to the public or just wholesale?

Soopabruva1 · 09/08/2011, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shayna123

This show is funny though. I have seen them fill the tank with a hose then dump a bag of salt right in the tank. Then it seems like that same day they put the fish in, is this possible?

Lol. Way to show someone how to start a tank

Chris27 · 09/08/2011, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by walvis

It may have been edited.
I do wonder how they get away with certain things though, like cutting up a wall to make things fit, because a miss calculation on their part.

Things go wrong on every install, everyone of us knows that, after all, an install isn't an install without 3 trips to Home Depot on the same day

Be happy for those guys, they get to make a good living doing what we do as a hobby. I certainly would give up my career in a heartbeat if I could make the same money working with SW aquariums.

jlylec · 09/08/2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris27

Things go wrong on every install, everyone of us knows that, after all, an install isn't an install without 3 trips to Home Depot on the same day

Be happy for those guys, they get to make a good living doing what we do as a hobby. I certainly would give up my career in a heartbeat if I could make the same money working with SW aquariums.

well said

lucky_snapper · 09/08/2011, 07:55 AM

I have a friend who emailed on of the guys on the show to ask him about the tipics discussed here and he replied back and said that every tank they build gets a super contrated dose of nitrifing bactera that basicly instantly cycles the tank. Also said he unferstands that it can be misleading to the public and has asked the producers to include the aclimation process and cycling process in an episode but it usually gets edited out. .

BubbaBoBobBrain · 09/08/2011, 08:15 AM

I was wondering about that myself. I watched the episode where they made the tank for the mobster hotel. They used the only hose they could find in the hotel to fill the tank and it was hot water so they put several hundred pounds of ice in it to cool it down. Seeing that blew my mind. I couldn't believe they did that. I wondered if all the fish died as soon as the cameras went out. But obviously they have some sort of system success or they wouldn't still be in business. Plus their custom tanks are absolutely amazing. I wish I could afford one.

Psirex · 09/08/2011, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reeferstace

I hate how they put fake coral in every tank, even the freshwater ones.

Ditto

cody6766 · 09/08/2011, 09:07 AM

I wouldn't think RO/DI is necessary for a fish only tank. It could help, but fish only tanks aren't as sensitive to some of the impurities like a reef is. I used hose water when I ran fresh water tanks and never had trouble. You just have to be sure to dechlorinate it. Hell, people do that with their reefs in some cases and do fine. I would be leery of the 'super bacteria dose,' but it may work just fine if they use real cultures.

Oh, they did explain drip acclimation in one of the recent shows. I think they were acclimating a ray for a tank when they did it.

I've grown to kind of like the show. I typically dislike reality TV like that, but I can look past the staged fights, terrible acting and general reality crap for the occasional episode so I can see the tanks and some of their design/build processes.

Sk8r · 09/08/2011, 09:11 AM

Unfortunately, some very cruel things happen in this world, and there are maintenance companies you would never want to work for.
First of all, they do not SHOW what these people do to make this work, and they do not SHOW and adequately explain the support machinery and filters.

Unscrupulous maintenance companies: there are some who throw something together to meet contract, then come in a few days later at a very high maintenance fee to 'do the chemistry' and collect the bodies, replacing the dead with similar fish: back every week to do the same, and the fee is so high it covers the weekly dead fish that the owners never see. Those who treat fish as decorations don't care.

The TV show: remember that in these specific tanks there are processes that are edited out as unglamorous or 'slow'.
Note too the purposes for which some tanks are set up: there are some 'processes' that do not work longterm, ie, the tank is set up as a decoration that will be replaced in 6 months when the theme or attraction changes. Essentially what is being set up for these commercial operations, as described, is more on the level of a very large quarantine tank with sand, and probably with a UV filter, which will help keep disease down, but also kill off beneficial bacteria. The filtration these tanks on the show use is very likely similar to what we used in the 1980's, relying not on the rock (which is fake) but on filter pads, and on close monitoring of chemistry, probably some spendy automated systems that report their condition, or just a guy coming in every few days to run tests.

This is not a show you watch to learn from. Not as the producers are doing it. THey are making a lot of trouble, and they are going to kill a lot of fish, as people show up at Petco, buy fish and a tank and a box of salt and dechlorinator the same day and go home and put it together.

And if you're personally spending your time and money on a tank---you, the serious hobbyist, will want to follow a very different path, one that is designed for the long haul, not a quick display and equally quick breakdown. You have to cope with chemical cycles that progress into years, you have to design sandbed maintenance that doesn't disrupt; you have to plan for the rapid growth of marine species; you have to consider what happens to oxygenation as your fish need more, and have relatively less water; you have to plan for years, not weeks.

sponger0 · 09/08/2011, 09:47 AM

The last episode I saw on my dvr was the one where they install the round tank with stingrays and they wouldnt come out of the sand once the rays were in. Well if you paid really close attention, the hose they used to fill the tank was attached to the shopping center's water outlet....wow. Thats not RO/DI. And I would think that it may make a difference in a FO tank cause of metals or however the water is treated from the city.

etepperman · 09/08/2011, 10:36 AM

on youtube I just saw them put about 300 fish (really) into what seemed to a 270 tank.

-E

sponger0 · 09/08/2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by etepperman

on youtube I just saw them put about 300 fish (really) into what seemed to a 270 tank.

-E

Say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

Sk8r · 09/08/2011, 10:45 AM

One episode was my gag reflex limit. I've scanned others, because I don't want to be unfair in my comments, and I hoped there would be some mitigation or disclaimers, but I can only say that anybody who imitates what they *think* they see going on in this show is going to kill some beautiful animals.

sponger0 · 09/08/2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sk8r

One episode was my gag reflex limit. I've scanned others, because I don't want to be unfair in my comments, and I hoped there would be some mitigation or disclaimers, but I can only say that anybody who imitates what they *think* they see going on in this show is going to kill some beautiful animals.

Agreed. My first opinion about this show even before it was aired, was alot of people are going to think they can just set one up and through a bunch of junk in. I was hoping for a more educational show as opposed to drama/reality. The only real please I get out of it is "ooooo pretty fish" or "omg these guys areally some of the biggest guidos ive ever seen."

It really bothered me to see all these fake corals. Thats my favorite part about the hobby.

etepperman · 09/08/2011, 10:54 AM

Here is the link. How many fish you think are in there?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEHfVV7wItA

sponger0 · 09/08/2011, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etepperman

Here is the link. How many fish you think are in there?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEHfVV7wItA

Omg that is alot of fish in that little bit of space. Then down size is these people that are their customers say 'I want this.' And they seem like the customers with alot of money and if someone says no, they will just go elsewhere. The value of the life isnt concerned with these customers.

blt · 09/08/2011, 11:08 AM

Honestly, they could probably head off a lot of criticism with slight variants of the "don't try this at home" disclaimer.

"The show focuses on setting up some awesome custom aquariums, but there's a lot of other little things that go into keeping a tank healthy and happy that we don't show on TV. If you're going to set up your own tank at home, find a local aquarium club or pick up a good book at the library to help make your journey a long and happy one for both you and your fish."

15 seconds before or after a commercial break, then back to the stuff with higher entertainment value.

09/08/2011, 04:50 AM	#1
baby1- Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: st.louis, Mo. Posts: 378	"tanked" the show it doesn't appear that they use ro di , or even cycle the systems, has anybody else noticed that?

09/08/2011, 07:04 AM	#9
shayna123 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: mass Posts: 553	This show is funny though. I have seen them fill the tank with a hose then dump a bag of salt right in the tank. Then it seems like that same day they put the fish in, is this possible? I love the creativity of the designs and how they put thought into the personalities of the fish. Also that fish place they go to to buy all their fish is awesome - I want to go there - wonder if it is open to the public or just wholesale? Last edited by Sk8r; 09/08/2011 at 09:04 AM.

09/08/2011, 09:07 AM	#16
cody6766 Super Best Friends! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 3,772	I wouldn't think RO/DI is necessary for a fish only tank. It could help, but fish only tanks aren't as sensitive to some of the impurities like a reef is. I used hose water when I ran fresh water tanks and never had trouble. You just have to be sure to dechlorinate it. Hell, people do that with their reefs in some cases and do fine. I would be leery of the 'super bacteria dose,' but it may work just fine if they use real cultures. Oh, they did explain drip acclimation in one of the recent shows. I think they were acclimating a ray for a tank when they did it. I've grown to kind of like the show. I typically dislike reality TV like that, but I can look past the staged fights, terrible acting and general reality crap for the occasional episode so I can see the tanks and some of their design/build processes. __________________ "The moral is the chosen, not the forced; the understood, not the obeyed. The moral is the rational, and reason accepts no commandments." - John Galt Current Tank Info: Cadlights 60G Arisan II mixed reef with 2x MP40s and 24" ATI

09/08/2011, 09:11 AM	#17
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Unfortunately, some very cruel things happen in this world, and there are maintenance companies you would never want to work for. First of all, they do not SHOW what these people do to make this work, and they do not SHOW and adequately explain the support machinery and filters. Unscrupulous maintenance companies: there are some who throw something together to meet contract, then come in a few days later at a very high maintenance fee to 'do the chemistry' and collect the bodies, replacing the dead with similar fish: back every week to do the same, and the fee is so high it covers the weekly dead fish that the owners never see. Those who treat fish as decorations don't care. The TV show: remember that in these specific tanks there are processes that are edited out as unglamorous or 'slow'. Note too the purposes for which some tanks are set up: there are some 'processes' that do not work longterm, ie, the tank is set up as a decoration that will be replaced in 6 months when the theme or attraction changes. Essentially what is being set up for these commercial operations, as described, is more on the level of a very large quarantine tank with sand, and probably with a UV filter, which will help keep disease down, but also kill off beneficial bacteria. The filtration these tanks on the show use is very likely similar to what we used in the 1980's, relying not on the rock (which is fake) but on filter pads, and on close monitoring of chemistry, probably some spendy automated systems that report their condition, or just a guy coming in every few days to run tests. This is not a show you watch to learn from. Not as the producers are doing it. THey are making a lot of trouble, and they are going to kill a lot of fish, as people show up at Petco, buy fish and a tank and a box of salt and dechlorinator the same day and go home and put it together. And if you're personally spending your time and money on a tank---you, the serious hobbyist, will want to follow a very different path, one that is designed for the long haul, not a quick display and equally quick breakdown. You have to cope with chemical cycles that progress into years, you have to design sandbed maintenance that doesn't disrupt; you have to plan for the rapid growth of marine species; you have to consider what happens to oxygenation as your fish need more, and have relatively less water; you have to plan for years, not weeks. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%. Last edited by Sk8r; 09/08/2011 at 09:21 AM.

09/08/2011, 10:45 AM	#21
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	One episode was my gag reflex limit. I've scanned others, because I don't want to be unfair in my comments, and I hoped there would be some mitigation or disclaimers, but I can only say that anybody who imitates what they think they see going on in this show is going to kill some beautiful animals. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

09/08/2011, 05:08 AM	#2
walvis Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Orlando,FL Posts: 159	It may have been edited. I do wonder how they get away with certain things though, like cutting up a wall to make things fit, because a miss calculation on their part.

09/08/2011, 05:24 AM	#4
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	This show just like Sons of Guns (which I like to watch)has a lot of acting to make them interesting to watch. The cool part of Tanked is the actual tanks they make, the boring part is the fact they can not or do not setup coral tanks.

09/08/2011, 06:08 AM	#5
reeferstace I'm a little people Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Over Yonder Posts: 1,392	I hate how they put fake coral in every tank, even the freshwater ones.

09/08/2011, 07:55 AM	#13
lucky_snapper Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Destin FL Posts: 344	I have a friend who emailed on of the guys on the show to ask him about the tipics discussed here and he replied back and said that every tank they build gets a super contrated dose of nitrifing bactera that basicly instantly cycles the tank. Also said he unferstands that it can be misleading to the public and has asked the producers to include the aclimation process and cycling process in an episode but it usually gets edited out. .

09/08/2011, 08:15 AM	#14
BubbaBoBobBrain Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Thompson, CT Posts: 5,937	I was wondering about that myself. I watched the episode where they made the tank for the mobster hotel. They used the only hose they could find in the hotel to fill the tank and it was hot water so they put several hundred pounds of ice in it to cool it down. Seeing that blew my mind. I couldn't believe they did that. I wondered if all the fish died as soon as the cameras went out. But obviously they have some sort of system success or they wouldn't still be in business. Plus their custom tanks are absolutely amazing. I wish I could afford one.

09/08/2011, 09:47 AM	#18
sponger0 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 6,659	The last episode I saw on my dvr was the one where they install the round tank with stingrays and they wouldnt come out of the sand once the rays were in. Well if you paid really close attention, the hose they used to fill the tank was attached to the shopping center's water outlet....wow. Thats not RO/DI. And I would think that it may make a difference in a FO tank cause of metals or however the water is treated from the city.

09/08/2011, 10:36 AM	#19
etepperman Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 257	on youtube I just saw them put about 300 fish (really) into what seemed to a 270 tank. -E

09/08/2011, 10:54 AM	#23
etepperman Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 257	Here is the link. How many fish you think are in there? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEHfVV7wItA

09/08/2011, 11:08 AM	#25
blt Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 205	Honestly, they could probably head off a lot of criticism with slight variants of the "don't try this at home" disclaimer. "The show focuses on setting up some awesome custom aquariums, but there's a lot of other little things that go into keeping a tank healthy and happy that we don't show on TV. If you're going to set up your own tank at home, find a local aquarium club or pick up a good book at the library to help make your journey a long and happy one for both you and your fish." 15 seconds before or after a commercial break, then back to the stuff with higher entertainment value.

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