Elegance Coral hosting clownfish, is it safe?

NikeLV · 02/21/2012, 09:03 PM

Hi everybody. Now I read that if any LPS coral, such as a Frogspawn, hosts a clownfish, the clownfish can irritate the host to death.. unless it is an anemone. But I have also read that Elegance Coral can host clownfish but I am not sure if an ocellaris clownfish will also irritate an Elegance to death.

Will Elegance corals happily host clownfish?

I really do not want an anemone because I have some vulnerable coral!

tang named junkyard · 02/21/2012, 09:10 PM

Good luck on keeping an elegance. Those can be tough to keep alive.

davocean · 02/21/2012, 09:16 PM

True, elegance are difficult to keep as they are let alone a clown bugging them.
I've seen many keep frog or hammer w/out issues, did this myself for quite a while, though some say their clowns can be rough on some.
I would have no hesitation on most euphyllia myself, but if I had an elegance I would be bummed if any of my clowns were eyeballing it.

jiperalta · 02/21/2012, 09:17 PM

I have a pair hosting in an elegance with no problem for a little over a year.

niteowl03 · 02/21/2012, 09:26 PM

You mean like this? My clowns and my elegance are doing great. The clowns will train the elegance to stay happy. No worries.

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NYCBOB · 02/21/2012, 09:38 PM

clownfish are horny. they will hump anything it seems. my clownfish hosted my frogspawn for years with no issue.

NikeLV · 02/21/2012, 09:51 PM

Tang Named Junkyard and Davocean, are you guys basing your posts off what you have heard or read?
Have you had experience with one? What makes elegance difficult? thank you.

Jiperalta and niteowl03, have you guys had a problem keeping your elegance corals? I read that they are moderate to keep, not as difficult as anemones.

NYCBOB, HAHA!

tang named junkyard · 02/21/2012, 11:18 PM

A while back I tried to keep one and had no success. I had a gazillion other things in the tank that were thriving. The guy warned me that they were hard to keep alive and for me he was right. There are a couple different versions I think. I think there is an Australian based species that does better.

davocean · 02/21/2012, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NikeLV

Tang Named Junkyard and Davocean, are you guys basing your posts off what you have heard or read?
Have you had experience with one? What makes elegance difficult? thank you.

Jiperalta and niteowl03, have you guys had a problem keeping your elegance corals? I read that they are moderate to keep, not as difficult as anemones.

NYCBOB, HAHA!

I'm going on many comments I've read here over the years.
I don't see many clowns in them in nem forum, and that is where I read most often.
Nem difficulty can vary dramatically depending on species.

niteowl03 · 02/25/2012, 10:50 PM

I have no problems with my elegance. It is in a medium flow and has 52 LEDs beaming down on him. He is thriving and I dont really see what makes them so hard to keep.

Gary Majchrzak · 02/25/2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by niteowl03

I have no problems with my elegance. It is in a medium flow and has 52 LEDs beaming down on him. He is thriving and I dont really see what makes them so hard to keep.

how long have you been keeping them?

niteowl03 · 02/26/2012, 12:11 AM

Just over a year now...

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Gary Majchrzak · 02/26/2012, 06:01 AM

you've kept one elegance for just over a year? Congratulations.

In regards to this thread.. is it safe for the elegance/clownfish combo... my answer would be there's a high risk to losing the coral. Even hardy Euphyllia can succumb to the thrashings about of a clownfish in it's tentacles. In less than ideal environmental conditions an elegance coral (or ANY coral for that matter) hosting a clownfish is at high risk of a premature demise. The coral's decline can be a slow one over the course of several months or years. Or.. it could work out. Emphasis MUST be placed on maintaining the host coral's health.

Denbf58 · 02/26/2012, 07:45 AM

i have a breeding pair of true percs and they have killed every coral they hosted form elegance to open brain to hammer about the only thing they have not killed is xenias

bunzaroo · 02/26/2012, 09:04 AM

I think the question concerning "difficulty" of elegance corals stems from the origin of the coral itself. As one of the posters stated they are imported from 2different places. Indonesia and Australia. The Auatralian ones fare much better than the Indonesian versions. There are several threads here at RC discussing this. As far as clownfish hosting elegance I myelf had a 3 inch elegance for about 6 months as soon as my 2 percs started hosting it it declined and they finally killed it in about 2 months. However mine was a small specimen something much larger maybe would be able to withstand all the thrashing and rubbing. As soon as the clownfish discovered my xenia garden it was heaven for them.

snuffy76 · 02/26/2012, 09:08 AM

I had a problem with my Maroon clown annoying various coral,even a large green star polyp colony.I put in a toadstool,and the clown took to it right away and left everything else alone.i find clowns will take to leathers quite well.

t4zalews · 03/05/2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by snuffy76

I had a problem with my Maroon clown annoying various coral,even a large green star polyp colony.I put in a toadstool,and the clown took to it right away and left everything else alone.i find clowns will take to leathers quite well.

marroon clowns tend to be very aggressive with their hosts...and or anything else in the tank. my i had one that was a bulldozer

02/21/2012, 09:03 PM	#1
NikeLV Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 208	Elegance Coral hosting clownfish, is it safe? Hi everybody. Now I read that if any LPS coral, such as a Frogspawn, hosts a clownfish, the clownfish can irritate the host to death.. unless it is an anemone. But I have also read that Elegance Coral can host clownfish but I am not sure if an ocellaris clownfish will also irritate an Elegance to death. Will Elegance corals happily host clownfish? I really do not want an anemone because I have some vulnerable coral!

02/21/2012, 09:16 PM	#3
davocean Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,655	True, elegance are difficult to keep as they are let alone a clown bugging them. I've seen many keep frog or hammer w/out issues, did this myself for quite a while, though some say their clowns can be rough on some. I would have no hesitation on most euphyllia myself, but if I had an elegance I would be bummed if any of my clowns were eyeballing it. __________________ There's a fine line between owning your tank and your tank owning you! Current Tank Info: SCA 120g RR Starfire, Tunze silence 1073.02 return, 40g sump w/ fuge, SWC Extreme 160 cone skimmer,Geismann reflexx 4xT5, 2x Panorama Pro LED strips, Vortech MP40QD

02/26/2012, 06:01 AM	#13
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	so you've kept one elegance for just over a year? Congratulations. In regards to this thread.. is it safe for the elegance/clownfish combo... my answer would be there's a high risk to losing the coral. Even hardy Euphyllia can succumb to the thrashings about of a clownfish in it's tentacles. In less than ideal environmental conditions an elegance coral (or ANY coral for that matter) hosting a clownfish is at high risk of a premature demise. The coral's decline can be a slow one over the course of several months or years. Or.. it could work out. Emphasis MUST be placed on maintaining the host coral's health. __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

02/26/2012, 07:45 AM	#14
Denbf58 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: selden N.Y. Posts: 885	i have a breeding pair of true percs and they have killed every coral they hosted form elegance to open brain to hammer about the only thing they have not killed is xenias __________________ Life is good Current Tank Info: 75gal reef ready koralia 3, 30g sump, 4b 48" t5s lighting, 29g reef with breeding pair clowns 55g reef 55g freshwater

02/26/2012, 09:04 AM	#15
bunzaroo Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Miami,FL Posts: 617	I think the question concerning "difficulty" of elegance corals stems from the origin of the coral itself. As one of the posters stated they are imported from 2different places. Indonesia and Australia. The Auatralian ones fare much better than the Indonesian versions. There are several threads here at RC discussing this. As far as clownfish hosting elegance I myelf had a 3 inch elegance for about 6 months as soon as my 2 percs started hosting it it declined and they finally killed it in about 2 months. However mine was a small specimen something much larger maybe would be able to withstand all the thrashing and rubbing. As soon as the clownfish discovered my xenia garden it was heaven for them. __________________ Current Tank: Mized Reef 72 Bowfront, 105G (45X27X20) Reef Savvy Rimless in the works. Current Tank Info: 105 Gallon Reef Savvy Rimless, Mostly LPS/NPS and anemone's, 3 Bartlett Anthias, Royal Gramma, Green Spotted Mandarin, Yellow Tang, 2 Banghai Cardinals.

02/21/2012, 09:10 PM	#2
tang named junkyard Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: bakersfield Posts: 1,201	Good luck on keeping an elegance. Those can be tough to keep alive.

02/21/2012, 09:17 PM	#4
jiperalta Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: coolidge, ga Posts: 165	I have a pair hosting in an elegance with no problem for a little over a year.

02/21/2012, 09:26 PM	#5
niteowl03 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 61	You mean like this? My clowns and my elegance are doing great. The clowns will train the elegance to stay happy. No worries. Sent from my MyTouch4g

02/21/2012, 09:38 PM	#6
NYCBOB Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 1,768	clownfish are horny. they will hump anything it seems. my clownfish hosted my frogspawn for years with no issue.

02/21/2012, 09:51 PM	#7
NikeLV Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 208	Tang Named Junkyard and Davocean, are you guys basing your posts off what you have heard or read? Have you had experience with one? What makes elegance difficult? thank you. Jiperalta and niteowl03, have you guys had a problem keeping your elegance corals? I read that they are moderate to keep, not as difficult as anemones. NYCBOB, HAHA!

02/21/2012, 11:18 PM	#8
tang named junkyard Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: bakersfield Posts: 1,201	A while back I tried to keep one and had no success. I had a gazillion other things in the tank that were thriving. The guy warned me that they were hard to keep alive and for me he was right. There are a couple different versions I think. I think there is an Australian based species that does better.

02/25/2012, 10:50 PM	#10
niteowl03 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 61	I have no problems with my elegance. It is in a medium flow and has 52 LEDs beaming down on him. He is thriving and I dont really see what makes them so hard to keep.

02/26/2012, 12:11 AM	#12
niteowl03 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 61	Just over a year now... Sent from my MyTouch4g

02/26/2012, 09:08 AM	#16
snuffy76 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 2	I had a problem with my Maroon clown annoying various coral,even a large green star polyp colony.I put in a toadstool,and the clown took to it right away and left everything else alone.i find clowns will take to leathers quite well. __________________ "you can't cure stupid"