Achilles Tang

[smilin37]

Just purchase a Juvenille Achilles Tang to be placed in my 250g reef tank. I have a Purple Tang and Yellow Tang as well, along with a few Clowns (Domino, Picasso). Will the Achilles be able to co-exist with the Yellow and Purple? Any advice to increase the chance of survival. Thanks for any help

[sporto0]

Whoa whoa whoa, do not put that Achilles Tang in an established tank with a Purple & Yellow Tang, they will destroy that poor fish. How long have the Zebrasomas been in your tank? If more than a few weeks, the only chance that Achilles has is if you put a tank divider in there & let them slowly get used to seeing one another. Purple Tangs are second only to Sohal Tangs when it comes to aggression.

[ezerasurfr]

You should be fine. The tangs are different families and different shapes...There may be some posturing, but all in all they should be fine. They may even be caught grazing together. If anything, the achilles may try to establish itself even though it is a juvenille.

[sporto0]

Originally Posted by ezerasurfr

You should be fine. The tangs are different families and different shapes...There may be some posturing, but all in all they should be fine. They may even be caught grazing together. If anything, the achilles may try to establish itself even though it is a juvenille.

I can tell you have never owned a Purple Tang who was the established fish, now if the Achilles was first & he was adding a Purple & Yellow Tang, I would say they will be fine. The fact that they are Tangs is close enough, believe me my Achilles & Hippo Tangs are not buddys. Achilles Tangs are very touch & go, especially when they are first acclimated & introduced to the home aquarium, they should not be kept by inexperienced hobbyists, they require special attention to detail, at least until they become comfortable.

[ezerasurfr]

Originally Posted by sporto0

I can tell you have never owned a Purple Tang who was the established fish, now if the Achilles was first & he was adding a Purple & Yellow Tang, I would say they will be fine. The fact that they are Tangs is close enough, believe me my Achilles & Hippo Tangs are not buddys. Achilles Tangs are very touch & go, especially when they are first acclimated & introduced to the home aquarium, they should not be kept by inexperienced hobbyists, they require special attention to detail, at least until they become comfortable.

All territorial fish are "touch and go". The fact that he has 2 zebrasoma playing nice is a testament to his fish's temperament. A 250g is enough room for these fish and a juvenile to boot will make the adjustment easier for all involved. If it was only the purple or yellow (not both), I would be more concerned with adding the achilles. Simply due to the fact that he has 2 already should make the transition easier. I still see no issues with his scenario.

And BTW acanthurus and paracanthurus typically do not get along. Zerbrasoma, though aggressive, can usually coexist with the other genus without an issue.

[sporto0]

Originally Posted by ezerasurfr

All territorial fish are "touch and go". The fact that he has 2 zebrasoma playing nice is a testament to his fish's temperament. A 250g is enough room for these fish and a juvenile to boot will make the adjustment easier for all involved. If it was only the purple or yellow (not both), I would be more concerned with adding the achilles. Simply due to the fact that he has 2 already should make the transition easier. I still see no issues with his scenario.

And BTW acanthurus and paracanthurus typically do not get along. Zerbrasoma, though aggressive, can usually coexist with the other genus without an issue.

Again, I can tell you have never gone through this scenario, Zebrasomas do not "typically" get along with other species, especially if they are the dominant or alpha fish, If you add a Purple & Yellow Tang together they will co-exist but they will not play nice LOL. I also see you just disregard my experience with raising Achilles Tangs, I don't care if it's a 500g tank, they are a very hard fish to acclimate to the home aquarium & if it is being picked on by a Purple & Yellow Tang, it has zero chance of survival, they should not be attempted by inexperienced hobbyists, the fact the OP is even asking this question leads me to believe this is his first attempt & the fact that he has two already, spells double trouble for that poor Achilles Tang. Stop googling & start gaining real experience.

[ezerasurfr]

Originally Posted by sporto0

Again, I can tell you have never gone through this scenario, Zebrasomas do not "typically" get along with other species, especially if they are the dominant or alpha fish, If you add a Purple & Yellow Tang together they will co-exist but they will not play nice LOL. I also see you just disregard my experience with raising Achilles Tangs, I don't care if it's a 500g tank, they are a very hard fish to acclimate to the home aquarium & if it is being picked on by a Purple & Yellow Tang, it has zero chance of survival, they should not be attempted by inexperienced hobbyists, the fact the OP is even asking this question leads me to believe this is his first attempt & the fact that he has two already, spells double trouble for that poor Achilles Tang. Stop googling & start gaining real experience.

lol, your assumptions show the only experience you have is in looking at someones post numbers and believing you know everything about them. You disregard my experiences at the drop of a dime. I'm done with this banter, it will end up going nowhere. The OP has my opinion and yours, let him do what he wishes. I have no desire to get into a ****ing contest with someone on the Internet. Relax chief, its Monday and the week is long. Better not get your panties bunched up so early, I'm sure there are lots more people you're going to posture at before Friday. Enjoy life and my ignore list.

[sporto0]

Originally Posted by ezerasurfr

lol, your assumptions show the only experience you have is in looking at someones post numbers and believing you know everything about them. You disregard my experiences at the drop of a dime. I'm done with this banter, it will end up going nowhere. The OP has my opinion and yours, let him do what he wishes. I have no desire to get into a ****ing contest with someone on the Internet. Relax chief, its Monday and the week is long. Better not get your panties bunched up so early, I'm sure there are lots more people you're going to posture at before Friday. Enjoy life and my ignore list.

HAHAHAHA, I don't need to look at someone's post count to evaluate their advice "chief", the fact that you feel threatened by my post & experience is enough for me to know that you are giving poor advice because you have not experienced this scenario. Enjoy your cowardly existence since the best you can come up with is the "Ignore List" I on the other hand actually care about the fish & especially the Achilles Tang, since it is my favorite fish, the idea here in this forum is to give people help when they ask for it, I have kept almost every type of Tang there is, therefore I am qualified to disagree with you, whether you feel "postured up against" or not.

[tylersarah]

Boys...arguing over fish

[Sugar Magnolia]

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[Rytek]

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[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Sugar Magnolia

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Yes.

[cjk76]

If possible, I would add a tank divider to ease the process of adding a new fish to an established reef.

Also, you should definitely QT that fish.

[PufferPutz]

Is a 250 big enough for three adult tangs? I am asking this out of ignorance.. Not because I think you are wrong.

I saw the recommendation for 240 gallon tanks to accommodate something like an adult hippo tang. I didn't know if this instance would require even more space.

[Allmost]

Originally Posted by PufferPutz

Is a 250 big enough for three adult tangs? I am asking this out of ignorance.. Not because I think you are wrong.

I saw the recommendation for 240 gallon tanks to accommodate something like an adult hippo tang. I didn't know if this instance would require even more space.

my anchilles in a 200G Zooms back and forth the 6 foot long tank all day almost...

and I have ALOT of flow.

but the fish can still use more room. we can never duplicate their natural living place the ocean, so through experience and ... 200+ seems to be a good balance for keeping them in captivity.

[rpjaws74]

I had the same scenerio as you my friend but in my 500 glln. i did encounter aggression towards my Achilies tang from my PT and yellow tang. Even my orange shoulder chimmied in a few licks. However it wasnt deadly for any fish and after a few hours it was over. I wouldnt say there buddies now and go for a bite together now but they stay away from each others way and tolerate there presence. The key here is having enough live rock to create caves for all your fish to call its own and having enough open space for them to swimm around and stay away from each other. I think you should be fine in a 250 thou I wouldnt put more tangs. Also if you move some rock around a little bit but making sure you dont stir up the sand we dont want any nitrate spikes this can sometimes let the fish re-establish there territorries and gives the Achilies a chance to establish his without stepping on anybodys fins per say! But good luck they are beautiful fish one of my favorite. Interesting note however all my tangs get away from my Achilies way when his around them. They are alpha fish for sure!!!