Glueing frags to glass?

TX..r33f · 07/19/2012, 01:17 AM

so i got a picotope tank and was wanting to get some GSP(green star p). Do you think it would grow and spead on the back glass? I have seen videos were people do it , but i was wondering just how hard is it to do that?

Michigan Mike · 07/19/2012, 01:20 AM

Try placing the mat on the sand bed and the glass and press it on the glass. It shouldn't be to hard, just like it will grow up a rock onto another rock, same principle.
I guess you could dab a little glue on the glass, easy to scrape off when you break the tank down someday.

TX..r33f · 07/19/2012, 01:26 AM

Okay, thanks i will try that

Cloudburst2000 · 07/19/2012, 06:11 AM

My brother-in-law had some GSP on a small rock in his Biocube 14. He wanted it to spread up his back wall so he bent a small portion of the mat to his back wall. That didn't help much so he fragged a small piece off the rock and glued it to the back wall. It had been spreading over the back wall from the glued frag.

BigAl2007 · 07/19/2012, 07:47 AM

It's easy to do but can be messy. I broke down a tank that the entire rear glass was GSP and wanted to expedite the same on my new tank. The original was a 10g Frag tank and I merely placed a rock with GSP on it against the glass with some of the GSP mat up against the glass. Mother Nature did the rest and it grew well.

When I broke down the tank I cut the GSP mat into much smaller pieces (with razor blade on a cutting board) and super glued (Gel) each piece to my 90g Over flow randomly in different spots. I also had a few frags of Nuclear Green GSP that I glued in while doing it.

Here's the 90g right after gluing (messy and I glued my fingers to it a couple of times so be careful WHAT you touch)

and here it is (horrible lighting was time to change the bulbs in the hood) a few months later

I simply took each piece, gave the back a large "dolyp" of Super Glue Gel and pressed/twisted it onto the overflow. I held it about 20 seconds each and WHAMO I have the beginnings of a GSP overflow.

When I broke that tank down I saved a couple of pieces and transplanted them onto the back glass of my RSM130D and now a year later about 75% of the back glass on one side of the RSM is solid Nuclear Green GSP. I'll try to remember to take pics and post them in this thread....

Palting · 07/19/2012, 09:35 AM

BigAl, aren't you worried that they will overgrow not just the back wall, but everything they will contact with? Like rocks, and even live coral? As I understand it, they have been known to do that.

BigAl2007 · 07/19/2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Palting

BigAl, aren't you worried that they will overgrow not just the back wall, but everything they will contact with? Like rocks, and even live coral? As I understand it, they have been known to do that.

No not at all. If "maintained" it's pretty easy to control where it grows. I don't have it growing on my main rock work and the only rock I have GSP on is a rock that's not touching anything else. I've had it literally start growing across the sandbed in an attempt to keep spreading and I simply cut that portion of the mat and glue it onto a spare rock and SELL IT!!

I've never had GSP pop up in strange places like I have with Xenia and Anthellia. From my experience (a few years to say the least) it's very easy to control so long as you plan ahead and don't get lazy. Anything it can touch it's likely to over-grow so keep that in mind but it looks awesome with an entire section flowing in the current.

Palting · 07/19/2012, 12:05 PM

Thanks! I think I may just do this

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damac20 · 07/19/2012, 03:11 PM

You can also use plastic coated magnets. I have done this with zoas and encrusting montis

alexmduffy · 07/19/2012, 04:02 PM

i am going to have to try this when my tank matures a bit!!

07/19/2012, 01:17 AM	#1
TX..r33f Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Houston Tx :) Posts: 611	Glueing frags to glass? so i got a picotope tank and was wanting to get some GSP(green star p). Do you think it would grow and spead on the back glass? I have seen videos were people do it , but i was wondering just how hard is it to do that?

07/19/2012, 09:35 AM	#6
Palting Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,912	BigAl, aren't you worried that they will overgrow not just the back wall, but everything they will contact with? Like rocks, and even live coral? As I understand it, they have been known to do that. __________________ Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :) Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 50g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, 3 cardinals, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam

07/19/2012, 12:05 PM	#8
Palting Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,912	Thanks! I think I may just do this . __________________ Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :) Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 50g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, 3 cardinals, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam

07/19/2012, 03:11 PM	#9
damac20 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Orlando FL Posts: 838	You can also use plastic coated magnets. I have done this with zoas and encrusting montis __________________ "Pictures are better than words because some words are big and hard to understand."

07/19/2012, 01:20 AM	#2
Michigan Mike Freedom costs a buckofive Join Date: May 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,002	Try placing the mat on the sand bed and the glass and press it on the glass. It shouldn't be to hard, just like it will grow up a rock onto another rock, same principle. I guess you could dab a little glue on the glass, easy to scrape off when you break the tank down someday.

07/19/2012, 01:26 AM	#3
TX..r33f Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Houston Tx :) Posts: 611	Okay, thanks i will try that

07/19/2012, 06:11 AM	#4
Cloudburst2000 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 1,485	My brother-in-law had some GSP on a small rock in his Biocube 14. He wanted it to spread up his back wall so he bent a small portion of the mat to his back wall. That didn't help much so he fragged a small piece off the rock and glued it to the back wall. It had been spreading over the back wall from the glued frag.

07/19/2012, 07:47 AM	#5
BigAl2007 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waynesville, NC USA Posts: 1,737	It's easy to do but can be messy. I broke down a tank that the entire rear glass was GSP and wanted to expedite the same on my new tank. The original was a 10g Frag tank and I merely placed a rock with GSP on it against the glass with some of the GSP mat up against the glass. Mother Nature did the rest and it grew well. When I broke down the tank I cut the GSP mat into much smaller pieces (with razor blade on a cutting board) and super glued (Gel) each piece to my 90g Over flow randomly in different spots. I also had a few frags of Nuclear Green GSP that I glued in while doing it. Here's the 90g right after gluing (messy and I glued my fingers to it a couple of times so be careful WHAT you touch) and here it is (horrible lighting was time to change the bulbs in the hood) a few months later I simply took each piece, gave the back a large "dolyp" of Super Glue Gel and pressed/twisted it onto the overflow. I held it about 20 seconds each and WHAMO I have the beginnings of a GSP overflow. When I broke that tank down I saved a couple of pieces and transplanted them onto the back glass of my RSM130D and now a year later about 75% of the back glass on one side of the RSM is solid Nuclear Green GSP. I'll try to remember to take pics and post them in this thread....

07/19/2012, 04:02 PM	#10
alexmduffy Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: West Deptford, NJ Posts: 21	i am going to have to try this when my tank matures a bit!!