coral beauty kinda being a bully to my royal gramma

sw_df27 · 09/02/2012, 05:30 PM

is this normal I added them to the tank the same day I let the coral beauty in about 15 min before I let the royal gramma they arent' fighting at all but I can tell the coral beauty is being kinda a bully it chases the royal gramma back into it's hide e hole everytime it sees it come out I havent' seen them fight at all and I have been watching them non stop for over 24 hours with this behavior stop at some point I'm hoping they will get use to each other before long or is this normal

cloak · 09/02/2012, 06:40 PM

Assuming the tank is big enough for the both of them, the aggression should subside given time. Just be patient.

bnumair · 09/02/2012, 06:42 PM

CB is an aggressive fish. its very normal for fish to be territorial and run other fish off. i would give it a few days and meanwhile place a mirror beside the tank for coral beauty to look at and be aggressive to its image.

sw_df27 · 09/07/2012, 06:07 PM

thanks it seems to have gotten better I left the light off for a few days rearranged all the rock to where the coral beauty stays on one side and the royal gramma "house" is on the other but if the CB sees him he always has to harass him but I'm adding 20 more lbs of rock this weekend to give the gramma more hiding spaces and hopefully that will help too lots of caves and cracks only he can fit in it seems to be working so far but it kills me the cb doesn't even look at my 2 clowns funny at all it's weird how he only picks on the gramma

gweston · 09/07/2012, 08:20 PM

My beauty was a total bully in a 29g. Later moved him to a 40breeder and it was day and night. I suspect a combo of territory change plus extra swim room. He zooms all day long and even became quite friendly. In sort of a hyperactive I can't sit still for a second way. Lol. I found food was strongly tied to aggression. When stuffed he was far calmer. Let's just say the clean up crew had a job and a half. In any case the bigger tank move worked for me.

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roninmagik1 · 09/08/2012, 10:48 AM

royal grammas are tough little suckers, he'll get his own eventually....is there a huge size difference between the two fish?

Biocubehqi · 09/08/2012, 12:28 PM

My royal gramma is also a beast I actually bought a angel to keep it in check. I always wanted one. And the gramma gave me a excuse. They don't really fight now that the gramma isn't the biggest one. The turf war eventually ended. Landscape change did help.

MrTuskfish · 09/08/2012, 03:12 PM

This just sounds like normal pecking-order stuff; our fish don't come from a friendly place. most fish learn their place quickly.

sw_df27 · 09/09/2012, 06:48 PM

they don't really fight but the angel is just a bully he chases the gramma until the gramma hides in one of his holes he's got I have the tank full to the top with rocks so there are tons of caves and holes for him to hide in they do okay until they meet in the middle then the chase is on the gramma just sits there lets the angel kinda push up against him then the angel will leave and the gramma with swim around again it's weird but I'm hoping it will stop soon if not I may have to move one to another tank but as long as they are eating and not actually fighting I hope we will be alright

cloak · 09/10/2012, 05:10 PM

How big is your tank exactly? 29 gallon? The aggression should die down given time, but those dimensions seem a little tight for both the fish IMO. If they're constantly running into each other, you know there's going to be some static.

09/02/2012, 05:30 PM	#1
sw_df27 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 150	coral beauty kinda being a bully to my royal gramma is this normal I added them to the tank the same day I let the coral beauty in about 15 min before I let the royal gramma they arent' fighting at all but I can tell the coral beauty is being kinda a bully it chases the royal gramma back into it's hide e hole everytime it sees it come out I havent' seen them fight at all and I have been watching them non stop for over 24 hours with this behavior stop at some point I'm hoping they will get use to each other before long or is this normal

09/02/2012, 06:42 PM	#3
bnumair Dr. Reef at ur service Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tulsa, Ok, USA Posts: 7,751 Blog Entries: 15	CB is an aggressive fish. its very normal for fish to be territorial and run other fish off. i would give it a few days and meanwhile place a mirror beside the tank for coral beauty to look at and be aggressive to its image. __________________ Water Quality: NO3 0,Phos 0,Cal 440,Alk 7.5,Mag 1300 "Reef Fast, You Crash, Reef Slow, You Pass" Mike's Reef 3:16 Current Tank Info: 350g DT,95g sump, 50g Frag tank, 4800gph return 4x Sea swirls. 6x AI Vega Color. 200# Pukani rock, dual recirculating skimmer, Biopellet, GFO Carbon rx's, Cal rx. Closed loop. 1.5hp chiller, genesis renew. Apex & RKE

09/07/2012, 08:20 PM	#5
gweston Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Gardner, MA Posts: 961	My beauty was a total bully in a 29g. Later moved him to a 40breeder and it was day and night. I suspect a combo of territory change plus extra swim room. He zooms all day long and even became quite friendly. In sort of a hyperactive I can't sit still for a second way. Lol. I found food was strongly tied to aggression. When stuffed he was far calmer. Let's just say the clean up crew had a job and a half. In any case the bigger tank move worked for me. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ 245 gals*: <Displays>: 125g 6' + 40breeder <Sump>: 80g combined (60g sump+20g fuge) <May2012-Present> RETIRED - 29g, 80+# LR, 2" SB ~15g sump <Jan2010-May2012>

09/08/2012, 03:12 PM	#8
MrTuskfish Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Wild Blue Yonder Posts: 8,887	This just sounds like normal pecking-order stuff; our fish don't come from a friendly place. most fish learn their place quickly. __________________ If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. Steve Current Tank Info: 180, 2-240 FOWLRs, 240 reef

09/02/2012, 06:40 PM	#2
cloak Moved On Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 14,854	Assuming the tank is big enough for the both of them, the aggression should subside given time. Just be patient.

09/07/2012, 06:07 PM	#4
sw_df27 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 150	thanks it seems to have gotten better I left the light off for a few days rearranged all the rock to where the coral beauty stays on one side and the royal gramma "house" is on the other but if the CB sees him he always has to harass him but I'm adding 20 more lbs of rock this weekend to give the gramma more hiding spaces and hopefully that will help too lots of caves and cracks only he can fit in it seems to be working so far but it kills me the cb doesn't even look at my 2 clowns funny at all it's weird how he only picks on the gramma

09/08/2012, 10:48 AM	#6
roninmagik1 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pembroke Pines, FL Posts: 259	royal grammas are tough little suckers, he'll get his own eventually....is there a huge size difference between the two fish?

09/08/2012, 12:28 PM	#7
Biocubehqi Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Illinois Posts: 777	My royal gramma is also a beast I actually bought a angel to keep it in check. I always wanted one. And the gramma gave me a excuse. They don't really fight now that the gramma isn't the biggest one. The turf war eventually ended. Landscape change did help.

09/09/2012, 06:48 PM	#9
sw_df27 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 150	they don't really fight but the angel is just a bully he chases the gramma until the gramma hides in one of his holes he's got I have the tank full to the top with rocks so there are tons of caves and holes for him to hide in they do okay until they meet in the middle then the chase is on the gramma just sits there lets the angel kinda push up against him then the angel will leave and the gramma with swim around again it's weird but I'm hoping it will stop soon if not I may have to move one to another tank but as long as they are eating and not actually fighting I hope we will be alright

09/10/2012, 05:10 PM	#10
cloak Moved On Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 14,854	How big is your tank exactly? 29 gallon? The aggression should die down given time, but those dimensions seem a little tight for both the fish IMO. If they're constantly running into each other, you know there's going to be some static.