34 gallons help me pick a hardy colorful fish

ReefSkipper · 09/15/2012, 09:24 AM

I own a 34 gallon tank. I have had sail fish tang and coral beauty both have died from being skinny and ick. Looking to have something non aggressive colorful and hardy. I'm afraid of having a tang and angels due to their so fragile and ick prone. All the fish I like are tangs and angels. Help me give me advice. I have now some chromis a six,ine wrasse two clowns and clown goby. I know it's fully stock but I keep the water chemistry pristine. What a hardly fish color and that likes pellets "

EllieSuz · 09/15/2012, 09:33 AM

You are full up, my friend. I know this is not the news you were hoping for, but in a tank that size, you cannot have too many fish and especially not angels and tangs. Why not look to other ways to make your tank colorful and interesting? Try some invertebrates and colorful corals.

ReefSkipper · 09/15/2012, 09:46 AM

Oh please suggest away so tang will not survive because it a small tank please help me with your ideas. Suggest away what colorful can I brighten up the tank I had no luck with corals the are leather. Had a white leather and devils coral the both died stank up my tank when they died.

reeferstace · 09/15/2012, 09:47 AM

Please research fish requirements before adding to your tank. A 34 gallon us not remotely large enough for tangs and angels.

ReefSkipper · 09/15/2012, 09:50 AM

That why i ask seen a lot of 29 gallons cubes on you tube with tangs. I wanted to be sure about this that why I asked

johnc43113 · 09/15/2012, 10:07 AM

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1946007

Dexters Reef · 09/15/2012, 10:10 AM

We can make some recommendations but will need a little information first

What kind of lighting and filtration do you use?
What are your water parameters?
What do you use for water flow?

With this information we can make suggestions on colorful corals and inverts that would do well in your tank.

MrTuskfish · 09/15/2012, 10:19 AM

Do you have a quarantine tank? If not, that should be your next purchase. Tangs are not the only fish that carry ich, and deadlier parasites. Any fish can. A QT is really a necessity, not just something to "consider sometime".

ReefSkipper · 09/15/2012, 10:29 AM

Ok here I go my water parameter are usually all 0 most time that nitrate, nitrite, ammonia and Phil's 7.8 to 8 . Ok filter is a black 4 inch by 4 inch sponge with white floss I change every other day 4 inch by 4 inch. Ok water flow tow maxijet 600 in back chamber of nano pumping pout water to display area. In display area 4 425 korola pumping water across the floor one per side of each side of tank to make movement all all around tank . Lighting is 2 55 watt power compact I keep on7 hours.

Misled · 09/15/2012, 10:32 AM

I know this thread is long, but it will give you lots of info. Also six-lines can be pretty nasty. Personally, I think your tank has enough fish. The crap you see on utube isn't something to emulate. They only have to have it set up long enough to do the video.

immortl · 09/15/2012, 10:34 AM

I added a Royal Gramma for some additional color in my BioCube 29. He's been quite peaceful, added some vivid yellow pink/purple to the tank and gets along well with my 2 Oscellaris Clowns and Starry Blenny. The Royal Gramma, in my case, is active and moves around the tank, often times hanging out in front. I have been very happy with the addition.

As you've seen, tangs do not do well in smaller tanks. You will see all sorts of things done in this world, but not all of it is a good idea nor will all of it work out well in the end. Spend a weekend evening at a local bar or attend a town/county court session one evening - you'll see all sorts of examples of things that 'seemed like a good idea at the time' but really weren't. One of the aspects of this hobby is research and learning, as you're doing. Sometimes we learn from experience, sometimes from the experience of others.

In my opinion, you need to always be critical of what you're reading/hearing and analyze the source. Is the information coming from personal experience, I once heard, generally accepted norms, etc...? How is the information presented? Reading other posts from the posters, asking how they learned the information they're sharing in conversations, etc...

Again in my opinion, how the information is presented can lend or take away credibility. Punctuation, spelling, and clear coherent thoughts are not always perfect, but you can sometimes get a sense of the posters' maturity level at least. Are they speaking in absolute terms or acknowledging there could be other ways? Again, you need to be critical (not in a bad way, but analytical). English is not everyone's first language, others are brilliant and experienced but weren't English majors.

As you do this and learn more, I think you'll find that while some things are black and white or clear cut, a lot of this hobby involves unique individual circumstances and there are many ways to accomplish a goal, all of which will work well.

Bringing this back on topic, the Royal Gramma worked well for me, and I have also been researching the possibility of adding in a peaceful, reef friendly Wrasse. I tend to browse the vividaquariums.com and liveaquaria.com websites and they have several good options there. Among the ones I'm considering are the Exquisite Fairy Wrasse and the Tricolor Fairy Wrasse. I'm not sure how they would get along with your current 6 Line Wrasse though. I'm also considering a Helfrichi Firefish. I do not have experience with these, but based on my research, they seem to be a promising fit for my tank, which is similar in size to yours.

Thanks,
Joe

ReefSkipper · 09/15/2012, 10:47 AM

Wow it amazes me how the people in this forum are. One there very understanding and helpful. Two they have somuch knowledge in the this forum. Three they try to help you as much as they can. I figure out the people In this forum are very helpful in everyway I seen. If only the world was like this.

jinks · 09/15/2012, 10:49 AM

How many times in a week can you ask the Same question, get an answer you don't like, and ask about it again in another thread. If your not going to listen to the answers people then why ask.

p.s. if your tang had ick then it will be in your tank and sooner or later when things stress it will show back up.

09/15/2012, 09:24 AM	#1
ReefSkipper Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Miami Posts: 42	34 gallons help me pick a hardy colorful fish I own a 34 gallon tank. I have had sail fish tang and coral beauty both have died from being skinny and ick. Looking to have something non aggressive colorful and hardy. I'm afraid of having a tang and angels due to their so fragile and ick prone. All the fish I like are tangs and angels. Help me give me advice. I have now some chromis a six,ine wrasse two clowns and clown goby. I know it's fully stock but I keep the water chemistry pristine. What a hardly fish color and that likes pellets "

09/15/2012, 09:33 AM	#2
EllieSuz Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 3,858	You are full up, my friend. I know this is not the news you were hoping for, but in a tank that size, you cannot have too many fish and especially not angels and tangs. Why not look to other ways to make your tank colorful and interesting? Try some invertebrates and colorful corals. __________________ "You can't learn this hobby one question at a time." (Mr. Tuskfish) Eileen Current Tank Info: I'm out of the hobby, but used to have a60 gal. reef, refugium in sump, Internal Mag 9 return, SC 302 skimmer, two Maxi-Jet 1200's modded, four bulb T5 Lighting, Reefkeeper Lite Controller with three PC4's, Little Fishes GFO reactor.

09/15/2012, 09:47 AM	#4
reeferstace I'm a little people Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Over Yonder Posts: 1,392	Please research fish requirements before adding to your tank. A 34 gallon us not remotely large enough for tangs and angels. __________________ Stacy

09/15/2012, 10:10 AM	#7
Dexters Reef Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 730	We can make some recommendations but will need a little information first What kind of lighting and filtration do you use? What are your water parameters? What do you use for water flow? With this information we can make suggestions on colorful corals and inverts that would do well in your tank. __________________ 75G RR, Trigger Systems Ruby 30S sump, 2x250 MH and 4x54W T5HO, Octopus Diablo XS160, 4" DSB, 2 x MP40wES, 85 lbs LR, 2 x BRS Dosing Pumps, Finnex 300w titanium heater, Surf2 Algae Turf Scrubber

09/15/2012, 10:19 AM	#8
MrTuskfish Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Wild Blue Yonder Posts: 8,887	Do you have a quarantine tank? If not, that should be your next purchase. Tangs are not the only fish that carry ich, and deadlier parasites. Any fish can. A QT is really a necessity, not just something to "consider sometime". __________________ If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. Steve Current Tank Info: 180, 2-240 FOWLRs, 240 reef

09/15/2012, 09:46 AM	#3
ReefSkipper Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Miami Posts: 42	Oh please suggest away so tang will not survive because it a small tank please help me with your ideas. Suggest away what colorful can I brighten up the tank I had no luck with corals the are leather. Had a white leather and devils coral the both died stank up my tank when they died.

09/15/2012, 09:50 AM	#5
ReefSkipper Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Miami Posts: 42	That why i ask seen a lot of 29 gallons cubes on you tube with tangs. I wanted to be sure about this that why I asked

09/15/2012, 10:07 AM	#6
johnc43113 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Circleville, OH Posts: 109	http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1946007

09/15/2012, 10:29 AM	#9
ReefSkipper Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Miami Posts: 42	Ok here I go my water parameter are usually all 0 most time that nitrate, nitrite, ammonia and Phil's 7.8 to 8 . Ok filter is a black 4 inch by 4 inch sponge with white floss I change every other day 4 inch by 4 inch. Ok water flow tow maxijet 600 in back chamber of nano pumping pout water to display area. In display area 4 425 korola pumping water across the floor one per side of each side of tank to make movement all all around tank . Lighting is 2 55 watt power compact I keep on7 hours.

09/15/2012, 10:32 AM	#10
Misled RC Mod Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 11,440 Blog Entries: 11	I know this thread is long, but it will give you lots of info. Also six-lines can be pretty nasty. Personally, I think your tank has enough fish. The crap you see on utube isn't something to emulate. They only have to have it set up long enough to do the video. __________________ Jesse I'm not saying I'm Batman. I'm just saying nobody has ever seen me and Batman in a room together.

09/15/2012, 10:34 AM	#11
immortl Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 114	I added a Royal Gramma for some additional color in my BioCube 29. He's been quite peaceful, added some vivid yellow pink/purple to the tank and gets along well with my 2 Oscellaris Clowns and Starry Blenny. The Royal Gramma, in my case, is active and moves around the tank, often times hanging out in front. I have been very happy with the addition. As you've seen, tangs do not do well in smaller tanks. You will see all sorts of things done in this world, but not all of it is a good idea nor will all of it work out well in the end. Spend a weekend evening at a local bar or attend a town/county court session one evening - you'll see all sorts of examples of things that 'seemed like a good idea at the time' but really weren't. One of the aspects of this hobby is research and learning, as you're doing. Sometimes we learn from experience, sometimes from the experience of others. In my opinion, you need to always be critical of what you're reading/hearing and analyze the source. Is the information coming from personal experience, I once heard, generally accepted norms, etc...? How is the information presented? Reading other posts from the posters, asking how they learned the information they're sharing in conversations, etc... Again in my opinion, how the information is presented can lend or take away credibility. Punctuation, spelling, and clear coherent thoughts are not always perfect, but you can sometimes get a sense of the posters' maturity level at least. Are they speaking in absolute terms or acknowledging there could be other ways? Again, you need to be critical (not in a bad way, but analytical). English is not everyone's first language, others are brilliant and experienced but weren't English majors. As you do this and learn more, I think you'll find that while some things are black and white or clear cut, a lot of this hobby involves unique individual circumstances and there are many ways to accomplish a goal, all of which will work well. Bringing this back on topic, the Royal Gramma worked well for me, and I have also been researching the possibility of adding in a peaceful, reef friendly Wrasse. I tend to browse the vividaquariums.com and liveaquaria.com websites and they have several good options there. Among the ones I'm considering are the Exquisite Fairy Wrasse and the Tricolor Fairy Wrasse. I'm not sure how they would get along with your current 6 Line Wrasse though. I'm also considering a Helfrichi Firefish. I do not have experience with these, but based on my research, they seem to be a promising fit for my tank, which is similar in size to yours. Thanks, Joe

09/15/2012, 10:47 AM	#12
ReefSkipper Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Miami Posts: 42	Wow it amazes me how the people in this forum are. One there very understanding and helpful. Two they have somuch knowledge in the this forum. Three they try to help you as much as they can. I figure out the people In this forum are very helpful in everyway I seen. If only the world was like this.

09/15/2012, 10:49 AM	#13
jinks Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 581	How many times in a week can you ask the Same question, get an answer you don't like, and ask about it again in another thread. If your not going to listen to the answers people then why ask. p.s. if your tang had ick then it will be in your tank and sooner or later when things stress it will show back up.