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Unread 11/19/2012, 12:52 PM   #1
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How many gph for sps tank?

I was wondering how many gph do I need for a 75g sps reef tank?


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Unread 11/19/2012, 01:03 PM   #2
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I have a 90 and I have about 35x per hr turnover


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Unread 11/19/2012, 01:10 PM   #3
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For SPS I've seen 40X to 100X
Now remember thats just total flow.. Not necessarily just from the return pump..
You can probably do 20X with return then 20X+ with powerheads in the tank


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Unread 11/19/2012, 01:16 PM   #4
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I'd aim for 100x preferably from several different sources.


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Unread 11/19/2012, 01:33 PM   #5
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In tank you need moderate to strong random flow. Get few or more power heads rated for your tank. As return you should be fine with x5 turnover rate. Just enough to supply flow to your skimmer and fight return pump maximum head loss. Extra benefit of running water at slower rate through your sump is better bio filtration, less heat from your pump, less noise and saving money on energy cost.


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Unread 11/19/2012, 01:46 PM   #6
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IMO 5X flow thru return is optimal for filtration, sump, skimmer, sct...The rest you make up with power heads and I like wavemakers and small heads to acheive that random flow. Since your looking for about 3000 GPH total and about 400 thru filtration, that means your looking for about 2600 thru four 650 powerheads one in each cormer on a 4 way wave maker.

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Unread 11/19/2012, 02:26 PM   #7
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I have a turnover rate of 150x in my tank.


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Unread 11/19/2012, 02:54 PM   #8
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So would 4 650 power heads and about 500 gph through the refugium be good


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Unread 11/19/2012, 03:15 PM   #9
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So would 4 650 power heads and about 500 gph through the refugium be good
That should be enough. Remember, though, it's not just about total flow, it's also about avoiding dead spots and creating cross flows.


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Unread 11/19/2012, 03:26 PM   #10
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Not to hijack, but how would these recommendations change if it was a mixed reef tank with things like shrooms or mayb a clam?


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Unread 11/19/2012, 04:21 PM   #11
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I couldn't find any power heads that did 650 all I could find that were close was 550 would that work or do I need more?


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Unread 11/20/2012, 06:40 PM   #12
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I couldn't find any power heads that did 650 all I could find that were close was 550 would that work or do I need more?
This hobby is not about numbers it's more about observation and some experimentation. All numbers will vary depends on your setup and every one is unique. Size and shape of your tank, your piping, amount and layout of rocks etc. You can be fine with single small power head or you might need four. Only you can tell by observing your corals and make adjustments.. lots of them.

Some prefer to buy adjustable equipment to cover all possible scenarios. It's more expensive this way but can benefit you in the future. Look into Ecotech Marine power heads or tunze pumps.



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Unread 11/21/2012, 03:59 PM   #13
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As others have stated, it's not always about GPH. It's good to have moderate flow, but I personally think eliminating dead spots is the key.


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Unread 11/21/2012, 04:12 PM   #14
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Thanks guy for all the input I guess I'll start with 3000 and go from there


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Unread 11/21/2012, 09:06 PM   #15
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I've got about 500 gph going through the overflow and then 2 MP40s on full power (reef crest mode) on my 90G.


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Unread 11/21/2012, 11:48 PM   #16
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I have a turnover rate of 150x in my tank.
150X??? That would be 31,000gph for me, water would slosh all over the place!


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Unread 11/21/2012, 11:53 PM   #17
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I've got about 500 gph going through the overflow and then 2 MP40s on full power (reef crest mode) on my 90G.
This sounds pretty reasonable, I had one MP40 in my 120 and it wasn't quite enough by itself, two would have made the tank rock! I traded the MP40 for 3 Tunze 6100s, I'm using two of them in my 210 and get a decent wave with them synced through my Apex.


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Unread 11/21/2012, 11:53 PM   #18
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My 75G has two 1400 GPH powerheads that alternate on a wavemaker, and a Mag 7 return that pumps about 350-400 gph through my lockline return that exits as a Y, pointing towards each end of my tank

Total GPH is about 3200 which is a 43X turnover rate, my sump has a 5.3x turnover rate. I keep SPS like acropora, montipora, millepora, and softies and LPS as well.

For a full SPS only tank, I would reccomend more flow to compensate for all the branching coral structures, but for the 15 SPS I have (ranging from 2" to 5") this setup is working nicely. As they get larger and fill in, I will probably add another powerhead, or upgrade to some Vortechs


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Unread 11/21/2012, 11:58 PM   #19
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I have 2 Vortech MP40s in my 75 gallon at 75%. Definitely some good flow.


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Unread 11/22/2012, 12:05 AM   #20
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Wow its amazing to see so many differant responses.

Not all tanks created equal. First of all for an SPS only tank you want a more mature tank At least 1 year. Not saying you cnat have any but you dont want to fully stock with SPS and then hope the best. Its about a balance. You may want to start with the minimum of 10 to 15 gph times your tank size and then in crease as your tank grows.

I think 20 to 25 wouold about max it out. They filter feed so turbo water means less food.


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Unread 11/22/2012, 01:46 PM   #21
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Some of these numbers are crazy. 150x on a 250 gallon display and sump of 50 gallons would be 45000 gallons per hour which would be over 10 Tunze 6105 which each flow over 3000 gallons per hour each.

I would think 2-4 Tunze's would be more than enough which would be about 7000+ to 14000+ gallons per hour and result in 23-46 times flow.


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Unread 11/22/2012, 02:27 PM   #22
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My 75G has two 1400 GPH powerheads that alternate on a wavemaker, and a Mag 7 return that pumps about 350-400 gph through my lockline return that exits as a Y, pointing towards each end of my tank

Total GPH is about 3200 which is a 43X turnover rate, my sump has a 5.3x turnover rate. I keep SPS like acropora, montipora, millepora, and softies and LPS as well.

For a full SPS only tank, I would reccomend more flow to compensate for all the branching coral structures, but for the 15 SPS I have (ranging from 2" to 5") this setup is working nicely. As they get larger and fill in, I will probably add another powerhead, or upgrade to some Vortechs
I can guarantee, unless you tested it, the mag 7 is NOT delivering over 300 gph without 1.5" plumbing. Also i dont know your head height but i would think your sump has less flow through it than you say.


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Unread 11/22/2012, 08:23 PM   #23
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Thanks guys all of this helps me make a better desicion? Do y'all think 3000 is a good starting point or should I go less?


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Unread 11/22/2012, 09:00 PM   #24
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I think it would be plenty, however, I do like the variable powerheads that are controllable so you can customize the flow to what you want. Vortech and Tunze are popular due to the high quality and variable ability and you can go a bit bigger and dial them down if needed.

Don't forget that you can place the SPS that need high light needs and high flow needs where you want so that they get what they need. You don't need super high flow everywere, if fact you don't want it everywhere. Some corals like medium flow.


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