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Unread 11/23/2012, 11:48 PM   #1
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budget buster vs. lower budget friendly???

hey guys lookn for a few opinions and advise. i curently have a 120g set up ready to go minus a couple plumbing parts and i also have a 40g that i would need to do some serious shoppping to get started. i was thinking of doing the 40 a little different. doing hob equipment..over-flow to a sump, refugeium, and skimmer..i know the sump and hang on back fuge mite be a bit over kill but im good with that as long as it doesnt cause flow or other problems...can i put the hob skimmer down in the sump??

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Unread 11/24/2012, 12:05 AM   #2
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Yes you can. In fact this is why many do, remove the unwated micro bubbles.


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Unread 11/24/2012, 12:14 AM   #3
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what should the flow rate be in a 40...thinking of using the mag 9 or the mag12 for return and a powerhead plus the one from the hob fuge...what do u think


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Unread 11/24/2012, 12:25 AM   #4
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Mag 12, more flow is always a good thing... I vote 40g and if u can keep that up then upgrade later to the 120..cant rush things in this hobby


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Unread 11/24/2012, 12:32 AM   #5
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very true..i know that fact all to well lol...as i try to work the numbers part out in my simple lil mind 1200gph seems a little bit high..what cpr over-flow box would best match that flow rate??


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Unread 11/24/2012, 01:12 AM   #6
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Really depends on your setup. Distance from tank and amount of returns. I would use just one and a mag 5 should be enough. Dont count this as need water flow of 10 to 15 times the tank size. It varys to much and the added flow only helps.


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Whoops lol I liked back at ur post and I miss interpreted a few things strike my words from the records. Plz lol


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Unread 11/24/2012, 10:14 AM   #8
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lol its cool...i think i have a nice plan for the lower budget 40... gonna run hang on back equipment..just need to work out the numbers part as close together as i can..if the over-flow box is rated at 1200gph i would use a return pump rated for 1200gph..RIGHT???


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Unread 11/24/2012, 10:38 AM   #9
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Keep in mind that a mag 12 rated at 1200 GPH is not going to push 1200 gph when used as a return pump. Head loss will reduce flow to 1000 GPH or less (below 700 GPH is possible, depending on plumbing).

Fanning, as long as your return pump is moving less water than your overflow is rated for, you're good to go. It doesn't have to be a match. In fact, it's better to oversize your overflow compared to your return pump.


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awesome thank you!! i was thinking of trying to do sps dominate so i know ill need quite a bit of flow but more importantly random flow...u guys think h.o.b equipment will be able to keep the water params in healthy range for sps...still thinkn that ill do a hob fuge up on the tank itself then put the hob skimmer in the sump...thoughts???


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Unread 11/24/2012, 11:42 AM   #11
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awesome thank you!! i was thinking of trying to do sps dominate so i know ill need quite a bit of flow but more importantly random flow...u guys think h.o.b equipment will be able to keep the water params in healthy range for sps...still thinkn that ill do a hob fuge up on the tank itself then put the hob skimmer in the sump...thoughts???
Shouldn't be a problem. You're going to need a few more powerheads to provide enough water movement in the display, but as long as your lighting is up to PAR () and you're water parameters are stable and good, it shouldn't be a problem.

SPS, and this hobby in general, rely more on good husbandry than good equipment.


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