60 Gallon Aquarium All New Frags & Refugium NEED OPINIONS!!!

BrownBrinksBoy · 12/05/2012, 10:58 PM

HEY IM KIND OF NEW TO THE AQUARIUM HOBBY I HAD THE TANK RUNNING FOR ABOUT A FEW MONTHS & I JUST ADDED ALL THE CORAL'S/FRAG'S TO THE TANK HERES A VIDEO LINK TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK PLEASE & IDEAS I BASICALLY ONLY LIKE ZOE'S & POLYPS

http://s1359.beta.photobucket.com/us...acbb3.mp4.html

davidadelp · 12/05/2012, 11:04 PM

Looks pretty good but IMO I would get that castle out of there just seems to out of place and more belongs in a FW aquarium. I would say remove it and either spread your live rock out or get more to add. That way youll have more room for coral.

I have a 65g aquarium myself and will be focusing more of Zoas and a few LPS.

Tell us about your equipment and parameters.

BrownBrinksBoy · 12/05/2012, 11:13 PM

Well its a 60 gallon with rena filter, eshops overflow box leading to the aquanox model 2 sump/refugium, with the middle chamber with sand at the bottom & mineral mud ontop of that with little peices of live rock and algea plant, the 3rd chamber has a eshopps protein skimmer & return pump leading to my chiller which leads to the tank

BrownBrinksBoy · 12/05/2012, 11:16 PM

Im going to leave the castle had it since i got the tank and i have seen some people do some cool things with the green star polyps on castles and ships and trims it into a design as it grown like grass around the windows lol... I got a long way to gooooo...

BrownBrinksBoy · 12/05/2012, 11:52 PM

Another thing is i have a big glass green algea problem everyday by the time the lights are about to dim to evening then moonlight my glass is allready full of green algea, how do i stop this...

davidadelp · 12/06/2012, 09:10 AM

Frequent water changes will help with high phosphates or you could run a uv sterilizer. Ive read on here where running carbon and GFO reactors help with algea problems as well. Thats my next upgrade im doing, santa is bringing it lol

Mr.Tan · 12/06/2012, 09:18 AM

algae problems come and go with new tanks. How long has the tank actually been running?

Sometimes it can be caused by excessive nutrients, what do you use to top-off evaporated water? Best way is to test phosphates and see what the reading is in the tank.

Also, you NEED To remove that hippo tang. It needs a much larger tank to be happy... even if its still a baby, its best to remove it now. Are there two yellow tangs in the tank? I see that one is hiding? remove that also.

ken6217 · 12/06/2012, 09:27 AM

You shouldn't have any tangs in a tank that size. Not only do you have a a yellow tang and hippo tang, you have TWO yellow tangs.

Besides that you are not doing the fish any favors, you had better watch out for nitrates and phosphates.
Ken

sponger0 · 12/06/2012, 09:28 AM

Now remember you asked for opinions....

These are my thoughts. I see nothing wrong with the castle. Be kind of cool if it was covered in zoas.

The hippo and yellow tang should be in a much bigger tank. Especially the hippo. They need a 200+ gallon tank. And yellow tangs can exhibit alot of agression, which is why they should be in a bigger tank. They can be very mean.

Also, get rid of the canister unless you feel like cleaning it alot. Weekly or possibly more than 2 times a week. All it will do is trap detritus and create nitrate and phosphate issues which later turn into nuisance algae and can limit the growth of corals....also will effect their health.

As for the sump, if you plan on having the fuge for a way to produce pods in the tank, the fuge should be after the skimmer.

BrownBrinksBoy · 12/08/2012, 03:08 PM

Ok thanks alot everyone, ok thanks for the info on the tangs, but theres not 2 yellow tangs, the 1 thats hiding is a fox face, no i dont use the fuge to feed fish, besides the tangs issue, and the canister filter problem, does anyone else see antyhing else besides the fish, im open to all oppinions and ideas. Thanks alot...

BrownBrinksBoy · 12/08/2012, 03:27 PM

Well i think i had the tank running for about 10 months maybe, but do to, the hurricane and power outages i had to start over with buying fish and coral, i lost 11 fish & 12 coral's . The only fish that stayed alive for 7 days with no power or food is the yellow tang and a fire shrimp. I did a few water changes and tank cleaning tested all my levels and then restocked the tank with 11 fish 2 shrimp 2 conch 2 emerald crabs & a clean up crew & alot of the corals you see are all frags, i just want to see them progress

so basically now the tank has been running for more than a month after my losses

sponger0 · 12/08/2012, 03:30 PM

So you put 11 fish in a tank in one month? Why?

BrownBrinksBoy · 12/08/2012, 03:53 PM

Not really to concerned about the fish, keeping fish was never my problem now that i have the overflow & sump & protein skimmer, as long as my fish are doing ok and not stressed and eating good, im just worried about other problems and coral problems.

So basically with the filtration i have now , do i need any other filter like the canister at all since i have the fuge & protien skimmer.

I really dont know whats mandatory and not...

sponger0 · 12/08/2012, 03:57 PM

Dropping 11 fish in 1 tank in a month is a problem. That can cause issues for corals if your biofactor isnt built up. Canisters arent really good for reefs as I mentioned before.

And not quarantining any of them can put all of them at risk to parasites and diseases. Thats WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too many fish to add in one month.

I know you dont like my opinion, but many will agree putting 11 fish in a tank in a month is going way to fast. And if you were really concerned on the corals health, you wouldnt have done that either.

Your corals are going to be dependant on your water quality and based on that will determine what kind of additional equipment or filtration you will need.

Anemone · 12/08/2012, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sponger0

but many will agree putting 11 fish in a tank in a month is going way to fast.

No, putting 11 fish in a 60 gallon is way too many. I currently have 4 fish in my 65 gallon, but I agree that's a bit understocked. I might go as high as 7, but more likely only 6.

Kevin

sponger0 · 12/08/2012, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anemone

No, putting 11 fish in a 60 gallon is way too many. I currently have 4 fish in my 65 gallon, but I agree that's a bit understocked. I might go as high as 7, but more likely only 6.

Kevin

You missed part of my statement...."in one month"

I never said anything about overstocking. Go back and read carefully

YoungREEFA · 12/08/2012, 04:12 PM

guys stop bombarding him with "No this and No that" Whats done is done now keep you cleaning in check, clean canister once a week or remove, and maybe introduce gfo for your algae.

Anemone · 12/08/2012, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sponger0

You missed part of my statement...."in one month"

I never said anything about overstocking. Go back and read carefully

No, I didn't miss that. I did read carefully. I just don't agree with it.

Kevin

Anemone · 12/08/2012, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoungREEFA

guys stop bombarding him with "No this and No that" Whats done is done now keep you cleaning in check, clean canister once a week or remove, and maybe introduce gfo for your algae.

He asked for opinions. And what's "done" can be "undone."

Kevin

sponger0 · 12/08/2012, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anemone

He asked for opinions. And what's "done" can be "undone."

Kevin

And that is my opinion....if you dont agree with it thats your thing. But he asked for opinions. I gave them.

Anemone · 12/08/2012, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sponger0

And that is my opinion....if you dont agree with it thats your thing.

Exactly. Smooth your hair back down and relax, I wasn't trying to insult you, only express my opinion that 11 fish in a 60 is far more problematic that 11 fish in a month. In an appropriately-sized tank, 11 fish in a month really wouldn't be a problem, but 11 fish, even added one per month, will be a problem in a 60. My opinion.

Kevin

sponger0 · 12/08/2012, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anemone

Exactly. Smooth your hair back down and relax, I wasn't trying to insult you, only express my opinion that 11 fish in a 60 is far more problematic that 11 fish in a month. In an appropriately-sized tank, 11 fish in a month really wouldn't be a problem, but 11 fish, even added one per month, will be a problem in a 60. My opinion.

Kevin

Ummm what makes you think my hair is standing up? Do you have cameras spying on me? Thats kinda creepy lol

Then we will agree to disagree

BrownBrinksBoy · 12/08/2012, 05:23 PM

OK GUYS IM OPEN TO ALL OPPINIONS I TOLD YOU LOL, I DONT FEEL ANYWAY. IM THANKFUL FOR ALL YOUR FEEDBACK I WILL DIRECT MY QUESTIONS & RESPONSES IF ANYTHING.

BUT BASICALLY WHATS DONE IS DONE I WANTED THESE EXACT FISH BECAUSE I HAD THEM ALL BEFORE & THEY DID GOOD UP UNTIL THE HURRICANE, IM NOT PLANNING ON TAKING ANY FISH OUT. I WILL BE UPGRADING MY TANK SOON TO A 90 OR BETTER DEPENDING ON HOUSE SPACE. THIS IS MY FIRST & ONLY AQUARIUM SINCE I WAS A KID WITH A 10 GALLON GOLD FISH TANK... BUT IM SO ATTACHED TO THIS HOBBY I SPEND ALL MY TIME JUST CLEANING IT FREQUENTLY & MAINTENANCE TO KEEP MY LEVELS GOOD...

SO CAN YOU GUYS TAKE ANOTHER LOOK LOL AND HIT SOME OTHER TOPICS OTHER THAN THE ONES WE JUST CLEARED...

LETS SEE I MIGHT NEED TO UPGRADE PROTEIN SKIMMER, WHAT ABOUT THE FILTRATION AGAIN DO I NEED ANY OTHER FILTERS BESIDES THE SUMP/FUGE PROTIEN SKIMMER, I HAVE A CHILLER, I DONT USE A HEATER, I HAVE 1 FAN INSIDE TANK FOR WATER FLOW & 1 RETURN pUMP & oVERFLOW BOX, DOES EVERYTHING LOOK PLACED RIGHT, IS IT ENOUGH WHATER FLOW ETC... DO I HAVE ENOUGH SAND,

sponger0 · 12/08/2012, 05:28 PM

If you want advice on equipment, then you need to tell us what you have right now.

BrownBrinksBoy · 12/08/2012, 05:50 PM

I DID UP, IM REAL NEW TO THIS SO I DONT KNOW NOTHING BUT WHAT I LEARNED OFF YOUTUBE AND IN THE PETSTORE LOL I DO ALOT OF RESEARCH... YOU CAN BASICALLY SEE EVERYTHING AND KNOW MORE THAN ME LOL...

Well its a 60 gallon with RENA filter, ESHOPPS overflow box leading to the aquanox model 2 sump/refugium, with the middle chamber with sand at the bottom & mineral mud ontop of that with little peices of live rock and algea plant, the 3rd chamber has a eshopps protein skimmer & return pump leading to my chiller which leads to the tank , T5 LIGHTING 4 BULB W BLUE 2 WHITE 1 MOONLIGHT,
I USE RO/DI WATER & SOMETIMES THE READY MADE SALTWATER THAT YOU BUY IN THE 4 GALLON JUGS...

12/05/2012, 10:58 PM	#1
BrownBrinksBoy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 26	60 Gallon Aquarium All New Frags & Refugium NEED OPINIONS!!! HEY IM KIND OF NEW TO THE AQUARIUM HOBBY I HAD THE TANK RUNNING FOR ABOUT A FEW MONTHS & I JUST ADDED ALL THE CORAL'S/FRAG'S TO THE TANK HERES A VIDEO LINK TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK PLEASE & IDEAS I BASICALLY ONLY LIKE ZOE'S & POLYPS http://s1359.beta.photobucket.com/us...acbb3.mp4.html Last edited by BrownBrinksBoy; 12/05/2012 at 11:53 PM. Reason: BETTER TITLE

12/05/2012, 11:04 PM	#2
davidadelp Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Daniels, WV Posts: 363	Looks pretty good but IMO I would get that castle out of there just seems to out of place and more belongs in a FW aquarium. I would say remove it and either spread your live rock out or get more to add. That way youll have more room for coral. I have a 65g aquarium myself and will be focusing more of Zoas and a few LPS. Tell us about your equipment and parameters.

12/05/2012, 11:13 PM	#3
BrownBrinksBoy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 26	Well its a 60 gallon with rena filter, eshops overflow box leading to the aquanox model 2 sump/refugium, with the middle chamber with sand at the bottom & mineral mud ontop of that with little peices of live rock and algea plant, the 3rd chamber has a eshopps protein skimmer & return pump leading to my chiller which leads to the tank

12/05/2012, 11:16 PM	#4
BrownBrinksBoy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 26	Im going to leave the castle had it since i got the tank and i have seen some people do some cool things with the green star polyps on castles and ships and trims it into a design as it grown like grass around the windows lol... I got a long way to gooooo...

12/05/2012, 11:52 PM	#5
BrownBrinksBoy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 26	Another thing is i have a big glass green algea problem everyday by the time the lights are about to dim to evening then moonlight my glass is allready full of green algea, how do i stop this...

12/06/2012, 09:10 AM	#6
davidadelp Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Daniels, WV Posts: 363	Frequent water changes will help with high phosphates or you could run a uv sterilizer. Ive read on here where running carbon and GFO reactors help with algea problems as well. Thats my next upgrade im doing, santa is bringing it lol

12/06/2012, 09:18 AM	#7
Mr.Tan Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: York, PA Posts: 734	algae problems come and go with new tanks. How long has the tank actually been running? Sometimes it can be caused by excessive nutrients, what do you use to top-off evaporated water? Best way is to test phosphates and see what the reading is in the tank. Also, you NEED To remove that hippo tang. It needs a much larger tank to be happy... even if its still a baby, its best to remove it now. Are there two yellow tangs in the tank? I see that one is hiding? remove that also.

12/06/2012, 09:27 AM	#8
ken6217 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 2,179	You shouldn't have any tangs in a tank that size. Not only do you have a a yellow tang and hippo tang, you have TWO yellow tangs. Besides that you are not doing the fish any favors, you had better watch out for nitrates and phosphates. Ken

12/06/2012, 09:28 AM	#9
sponger0 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 6,659	Now remember you asked for opinions.... These are my thoughts. I see nothing wrong with the castle. Be kind of cool if it was covered in zoas. The hippo and yellow tang should be in a much bigger tank. Especially the hippo. They need a 200+ gallon tank. And yellow tangs can exhibit alot of agression, which is why they should be in a bigger tank. They can be very mean. Also, get rid of the canister unless you feel like cleaning it alot. Weekly or possibly more than 2 times a week. All it will do is trap detritus and create nitrate and phosphate issues which later turn into nuisance algae and can limit the growth of corals....also will effect their health. As for the sump, if you plan on having the fuge for a way to produce pods in the tank, the fuge should be after the skimmer.

12/08/2012, 03:08 PM	#10
BrownBrinksBoy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 26	Ok thanks alot everyone, ok thanks for the info on the tangs, but theres not 2 yellow tangs, the 1 thats hiding is a fox face, no i dont use the fuge to feed fish, besides the tangs issue, and the canister filter problem, does anyone else see antyhing else besides the fish, im open to all oppinions and ideas. Thanks alot...

12/08/2012, 03:27 PM	#11
BrownBrinksBoy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 26	Well i think i had the tank running for about 10 months maybe, but do to, the hurricane and power outages i had to start over with buying fish and coral, i lost 11 fish & 12 coral's . The only fish that stayed alive for 7 days with no power or food is the yellow tang and a fire shrimp. I did a few water changes and tank cleaning tested all my levels and then restocked the tank with 11 fish 2 shrimp 2 conch 2 emerald crabs & a clean up crew & alot of the corals you see are all frags, i just want to see them progress so basically now the tank has been running for more than a month after my losses

12/08/2012, 03:30 PM	#12
sponger0 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 6,659	So you put 11 fish in a tank in one month? Why?

12/08/2012, 03:53 PM	#13
BrownBrinksBoy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 26	Not really to concerned about the fish, keeping fish was never my problem now that i have the overflow & sump & protein skimmer, as long as my fish are doing ok and not stressed and eating good, im just worried about other problems and coral problems. So basically with the filtration i have now , do i need any other filter like the canister at all since i have the fuge & protien skimmer. I really dont know whats mandatory and not...

12/08/2012, 03:57 PM	#14
sponger0 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 6,659	Dropping 11 fish in 1 tank in a month is a problem. That can cause issues for corals if your biofactor isnt built up. Canisters arent really good for reefs as I mentioned before. And not quarantining any of them can put all of them at risk to parasites and diseases. Thats WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too many fish to add in one month. I know you dont like my opinion, but many will agree putting 11 fish in a tank in a month is going way to fast. And if you were really concerned on the corals health, you wouldnt have done that either. Your corals are going to be dependant on your water quality and based on that will determine what kind of additional equipment or filtration you will need.

12/08/2012, 04:12 PM	#17
YoungREEFA Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 895	guys stop bombarding him with "No this and No that" Whats done is done now keep you cleaning in check, clean canister once a week or remove, and maybe introduce gfo for your algae.

12/08/2012, 05:23 PM	#23
BrownBrinksBoy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 26	OK GUYS IM OPEN TO ALL OPPINIONS I TOLD YOU LOL, I DONT FEEL ANYWAY. IM THANKFUL FOR ALL YOUR FEEDBACK I WILL DIRECT MY QUESTIONS & RESPONSES IF ANYTHING. BUT BASICALLY WHATS DONE IS DONE I WANTED THESE EXACT FISH BECAUSE I HAD THEM ALL BEFORE & THEY DID GOOD UP UNTIL THE HURRICANE, IM NOT PLANNING ON TAKING ANY FISH OUT. I WILL BE UPGRADING MY TANK SOON TO A 90 OR BETTER DEPENDING ON HOUSE SPACE. THIS IS MY FIRST & ONLY AQUARIUM SINCE I WAS A KID WITH A 10 GALLON GOLD FISH TANK... BUT IM SO ATTACHED TO THIS HOBBY I SPEND ALL MY TIME JUST CLEANING IT FREQUENTLY & MAINTENANCE TO KEEP MY LEVELS GOOD... SO CAN YOU GUYS TAKE ANOTHER LOOK LOL AND HIT SOME OTHER TOPICS OTHER THAN THE ONES WE JUST CLEARED... LETS SEE I MIGHT NEED TO UPGRADE PROTEIN SKIMMER, WHAT ABOUT THE FILTRATION AGAIN DO I NEED ANY OTHER FILTERS BESIDES THE SUMP/FUGE PROTIEN SKIMMER, I HAVE A CHILLER, I DONT USE A HEATER, I HAVE 1 FAN INSIDE TANK FOR WATER FLOW & 1 RETURN pUMP & oVERFLOW BOX, DOES EVERYTHING LOOK PLACED RIGHT, IS IT ENOUGH WHATER FLOW ETC... DO I HAVE ENOUGH SAND,

12/08/2012, 05:28 PM	#24
sponger0 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 6,659	If you want advice on equipment, then you need to tell us what you have right now.

12/08/2012, 05:50 PM	#25
BrownBrinksBoy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 26	I DID UP, IM REAL NEW TO THIS SO I DONT KNOW NOTHING BUT WHAT I LEARNED OFF YOUTUBE AND IN THE PETSTORE LOL I DO ALOT OF RESEARCH... YOU CAN BASICALLY SEE EVERYTHING AND KNOW MORE THAN ME LOL... Well its a 60 gallon with RENA filter, ESHOPPS overflow box leading to the aquanox model 2 sump/refugium, with the middle chamber with sand at the bottom & mineral mud ontop of that with little peices of live rock and algea plant, the 3rd chamber has a eshopps protein skimmer & return pump leading to my chiller which leads to the tank , T5 LIGHTING 4 BULB W BLUE 2 WHITE 1 MOONLIGHT, I USE RO/DI WATER & SOMETIMES THE READY MADE SALTWATER THAT YOU BUY IN THE 4 GALLON JUGS...