What size heater do you recommend?

chaaban · 01/31/2013, 09:07 PM

Im looking to purchase 2 heaters for my new reef tank, I think Ill be going with the Eheim/ Jager titanium heaters, unless someone recommends anything different ...

The speck of my tank:

Tank- 65G
Sump- 24"L x 13"W x 22"H
Refugium- 19"L x 12"W x 16"H

What size Jager titanium heaters do you recommend for my tank if buying 2?

bnumair · 01/31/2013, 10:45 PM

my recommendation will be 2x 100 watts backed by controller.

Kyle918 · 01/31/2013, 11:05 PM

What bnumair said. I have two jagers in for my 55 gallon in progress tank. Great heater and very reliable. Heats and holds the temperature exactly on point even with my ac dipping to 72-71. Tank sits at 78.5-79F

chaaban · 01/31/2013, 11:12 PM

perfect, thanks!

sponger0 · 02/01/2013, 07:37 AM

You also need to consider the temp of your home. If you keep it 70 or less, youll need to go 10 watts per gallon to be on the safe side

cordell · 02/01/2013, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sponger0

You also need to consider the temp of your home. If you keep it 70 or less, youll need to go 10 watts per gallon to be on the safe side

Exactly. During the winter, while we are gone to work during the day, the house temp is set to 66, so the tank heaters have a big job to do. In my 75 gallon, two 150watt Jagers aren't enough to keep up unless I shut the bedroom door to hold the heat in the room.

So, take the room temp into consideration.

sponger0 · 02/01/2013, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cordell

Exactly. During the winter, while we are gone to work during the day, the house temp is set to 66, so the tank heaters have a big job to do. In my 75 gallon, two 150watt Jagers aren't enough to keep up unless I shut the bedroom door to hold the heat in the room.

So, take the room temp into consideration.

Well it was the opposite time of year that got me. I keep my house very cool in the summer and corals started having problems. Couldnt figure out what was wrong until I looked at the temp. My heaters couldnt keep up. So I had to add more heaters. My tank temp wouldnt go past 75 degrees with my house so cool.

Avonlea,PA · 02/01/2013, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by chaaban

Im looking to purchase 2 heaters for my new reef tank, I think Ill be going with the Eheim/ Jager titanium heaters, unless someone recommends anything different ...

Where are you finding Jager titanium heaters? I can't find them anywhere. I only see conventional glass.
I'd be interested in titanium myself.

ZiggyBuster · 02/01/2013, 09:51 AM

200W is sufficient.

sponger0 · 02/01/2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyBuster

200W is sufficient.

Thats barely 2 watts per gallon.

PlaneReefer · 02/01/2013, 10:22 AM

Not only room temperature but depending on house construction and insulation as well as tank location will matter. 5 - 10 watts per gallon is what I would go with.

bnumair · 02/01/2013, 11:07 AM

guys my setup is in garage today was 17f in the garage, in 300 gal i have 1200watts of heaters (4x300) they keep up temp at 78F. thats 4 watts per gal.

chaaban · 02/01/2013, 11:12 AM

Seems like 2 x 100W isn't the right answer....so how about 2 x 200? also my apologies, it seems like the Eheim Jager isn't titanium so now the question comes up, do i stick to the jager (non titanium) or do i go with a titanium heater? If so which one is best?

chaaban · 02/01/2013, 11:17 AM

P.s- Bnumair I pm'd you a question if you don't mind id appreciate your help.

bnumair · 02/01/2013, 11:44 AM

i replied ur pm, and if u want to be on the safe side u can add another heater and go 3x100watt but i am pretty confident that 200watts will be ok on a 65 gal tank.

EDIT: is this 65 gal total volume or 65 tank plus fuge plus sump?
if its 65+sump+fuge then yes 2x200watts

chaaban · 02/01/2013, 11:52 AM

My house is actually always in a range of room temp and its very well insulated. So I think Ill stick to the 2 x 100W. Any particular heater you suggest i buy?

Thanks again for all the help!

roblshan2000 · 02/01/2013, 12:11 PM

I've always had good luck with the Eheim Jager heaters. They are glass, but very durable. I would just make sure to hook them up to a controller if you can. Just a nice fail safe option to have.

chaaban · 02/01/2013, 12:14 PM

Yes, I have the Apex controller and ill be hooking the two heaters up to that, so perhaps ill stick to jager if titanium isn't a big advantage against the thicker more durable glass of the jager heaters...

bnumair · 02/01/2013, 12:27 PM

glass tends to break due to multiple reasons, human error, rock fall, out of water and still running etc. i always prefer titanium. i am happy with viaaqua titanium heaters. i have 6 of them and never had any issues.

Spyderturbo007 · 02/01/2013, 12:27 PM

I have a 200w heater in my 55g and overnight when my furnace drops from it's normal 68 degrees to 64 degrees, I'm finding that my heater can't keep up with demand. I'm planning on upgrading to a 300w here soon. The best the heater can do is 79 degrees overnight. I normally run between 79.8 - 80.2 degrees.

01/31/2013, 09:07 PM	#1
chaaban Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 388	What size heater do you recommend? Im looking to purchase 2 heaters for my new reef tank, I think Ill be going with the Eheim/ Jager titanium heaters, unless someone recommends anything different ... The speck of my tank: Tank- 65G Sump- 24"L x 13"W x 22"H Refugium- 19"L x 12"W x 16"H What size Jager titanium heaters do you recommend for my tank if buying 2?

01/31/2013, 10:45 PM	#2
bnumair Dr. Reef at ur service Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tulsa, Ok, USA Posts: 7,751 Blog Entries: 15	my recommendation will be 2x 100 watts backed by controller. __________________ Water Quality: NO3 0,Phos 0,Cal 440,Alk 7.5,Mag 1300 "Reef Fast, You Crash, Reef Slow, You Pass" Mike's Reef 3:16 Current Tank Info: 350g DT,95g sump, 50g Frag tank, 4800gph return 4x Sea swirls. 6x AI Vega Color. 200# Pukani rock, dual recirculating skimmer, Biopellet, GFO Carbon rx's, Cal rx. Closed loop. 1.5hp chiller, genesis renew. Apex & RKE

01/31/2013, 11:05 PM	#3
Kyle918 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 642	What bnumair said. I have two jagers in for my 55 gallon in progress tank. Great heater and very reliable. Heats and holds the temperature exactly on point even with my ac dipping to 72-71. Tank sits at 78.5-79F __________________ Work in Progress: 75g Rimless DT \| 20g sump \| Aquamaxx ConeS-1 \| Two Tunze Turbelle 6025 Tank established 02/16/14

02/01/2013, 11:07 AM	#12
bnumair Dr. Reef at ur service Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tulsa, Ok, USA Posts: 7,751 Blog Entries: 15	guys my setup is in garage today was 17f in the garage, in 300 gal i have 1200watts of heaters (4x300) they keep up temp at 78F. thats 4 watts per gal. __________________ Water Quality: NO3 0,Phos 0,Cal 440,Alk 7.5,Mag 1300 "Reef Fast, You Crash, Reef Slow, You Pass" Mike's Reef 3:16 Current Tank Info: 350g DT,95g sump, 50g Frag tank, 4800gph return 4x Sea swirls. 6x AI Vega Color. 200# Pukani rock, dual recirculating skimmer, Biopellet, GFO Carbon rx's, Cal rx. Closed loop. 1.5hp chiller, genesis renew. Apex & RKE

02/01/2013, 11:44 AM	#15
bnumair Dr. Reef at ur service Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tulsa, Ok, USA Posts: 7,751 Blog Entries: 15	i replied ur pm, and if u want to be on the safe side u can add another heater and go 3x100watt but i am pretty confident that 200watts will be ok on a 65 gal tank. EDIT: is this 65 gal total volume or 65 tank plus fuge plus sump? if its 65+sump+fuge then yes 2x200watts __________________ Water Quality: NO3 0,Phos 0,Cal 440,Alk 7.5,Mag 1300 "Reef Fast, You Crash, Reef Slow, You Pass" Mike's Reef 3:16 Current Tank Info: 350g DT,95g sump, 50g Frag tank, 4800gph return 4x Sea swirls. 6x AI Vega Color. 200# Pukani rock, dual recirculating skimmer, Biopellet, GFO Carbon rx's, Cal rx. Closed loop. 1.5hp chiller, genesis renew. Apex & RKE Last edited by bnumair; 02/01/2013 at 11:51 AM.

01/31/2013, 11:12 PM	#4
chaaban Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 388	perfect, thanks!

02/01/2013, 07:37 AM	#5
sponger0 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 6,659	You also need to consider the temp of your home. If you keep it 70 or less, youll need to go 10 watts per gallon to be on the safe side

02/01/2013, 09:51 AM	#9
ZiggyBuster Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 65	200W is sufficient.

02/01/2013, 10:22 AM	#11
PlaneReefer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: PVD Posts: 28	Not only room temperature but depending on house construction and insulation as well as tank location will matter. 5 - 10 watts per gallon is what I would go with.

02/01/2013, 11:12 AM	#13
chaaban Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 388	Seems like 2 x 100W isn't the right answer....so how about 2 x 200? also my apologies, it seems like the Eheim Jager isn't titanium so now the question comes up, do i stick to the jager (non titanium) or do i go with a titanium heater? If so which one is best?

02/01/2013, 11:17 AM	#14
chaaban Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 388	P.s- Bnumair I pm'd you a question if you don't mind id appreciate your help.

02/01/2013, 11:52 AM	#16
chaaban Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 388	My house is actually always in a range of room temp and its very well insulated. So I think Ill stick to the 2 x 100W. Any particular heater you suggest i buy? Thanks again for all the help!

02/01/2013, 12:11 PM	#17
roblshan2000 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 10	I've always had good luck with the Eheim Jager heaters. They are glass, but very durable. I would just make sure to hook them up to a controller if you can. Just a nice fail safe option to have.

02/01/2013, 12:14 PM	#18
chaaban Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 388	Yes, I have the Apex controller and ill be hooking the two heaters up to that, so perhaps ill stick to jager if titanium isn't a big advantage against the thicker more durable glass of the jager heaters...

02/01/2013, 12:27 PM	#19
bnumair Dr. Reef at ur service Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tulsa, Ok, USA Posts: 7,751 Blog Entries: 15	glass tends to break due to multiple reasons, human error, rock fall, out of water and still running etc. i always prefer titanium. i am happy with viaaqua titanium heaters. i have 6 of them and never had any issues. __________________ Water Quality: NO3 0,Phos 0,Cal 440,Alk 7.5,Mag 1300 "Reef Fast, You Crash, Reef Slow, You Pass" Mike's Reef 3:16 Current Tank Info: 350g DT,95g sump, 50g Frag tank, 4800gph return 4x Sea swirls. 6x AI Vega Color. 200# Pukani rock, dual recirculating skimmer, Biopellet, GFO Carbon rx's, Cal rx. Closed loop. 1.5hp chiller, genesis renew. Apex & RKE

02/01/2013, 12:27 PM	#20
Spyderturbo007 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: PA Posts: 2,564	I have a 200w heater in my 55g and overnight when my furnace drops from it's normal 68 degrees to 64 degrees, I'm finding that my heater can't keep up with demand. I'm planning on upgrading to a 300w here soon. The best the heater can do is 79 degrees overnight. I normally run between 79.8 - 80.2 degrees.