Euphyllias Failing

crlmn11 · 02/14/2013, 11:46 AM

In two separate tanks over the past 9 months every Euphyllia that has been placed in either of my tanks has failed. By failed I do not mean they died of brown jelly or some other known cause that was easily discernible. This first started when I added some Australian Euphyllias and has since now spread to every other Euphyllia including frags that were successfully grown in other hobbyist's tanks. What happens is that initially the Euphyllia opens nicely, feeds and does well. And then at some point from 1-3 months it gradually starts opening up less and less. Eventually it does not open at all and the tissue more or less just disappears. There is never that massive brown blob that occurs from brown jelly disease and no fish are picking at it. I did treat one of the tanks with Erythromycin to treat red slime and the problem stopped for a couple of months, only to come back and wipe out the remaining Euphyllias. I have been in the hobby for a long time and have grown some beautiful Euphyllias during that time. But now it is impossible for me to keep even common ones or frags successfully grown in outside tanks by others. I have dipped these corals and quarantined them when I got them and I have dipped in various solutions once they start failing without any success. I would like to know if anyoe else is having this problem especially with Aussie corals? Any help or treatments would be appreciated.

Bruno3047 · 02/15/2013, 01:17 AM

What fish are in your tank?

crlmn11 · 02/15/2013, 08:13 AM

Fairy wrasses, anthias, Cardinals, firefish, hogfish, sleeper gobies, and a small golden blenny. Water paramters are pH 8.00-8.2, PO4 .02, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate undetectable, temp 78, calcium 480, magnesium, 1400, alkalinity 2.5 mEq/L. Everything else, ie. sps, acans, chalices, etc do great. It is only the Euphyllias. They even eat initially and then just wither away

E Rosewater · 02/15/2013, 08:46 AM

Did you try moving them around a bit? My frogspawn really closed up, I moved it to an area of lower flow and they opened up. My torches seem to like fairly high flow.

crlmn11 · 02/15/2013, 08:50 AM

I have moved them up, down, into low current and into high current once they start closing up and they just continue to whither away. It has been all types in different currents and have even had them switch tanks. One is lit by LEDs the other by metal halides and LEDs. It has not mattered.

Bruno3047 · 02/15/2013, 12:49 PM

Well, no potential culprits in your fish list. This is really a tough one. The only possible thing I can think of is maybe your calcium is a bit high? Hope you get things straightened out.

02/14/2013, 11:46 AM	#1
crlmn11 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 68	Euphyllias Failing In two separate tanks over the past 9 months every Euphyllia that has been placed in either of my tanks has failed. By failed I do not mean they died of brown jelly or some other known cause that was easily discernible. This first started when I added some Australian Euphyllias and has since now spread to every other Euphyllia including frags that were successfully grown in other hobbyist's tanks. What happens is that initially the Euphyllia opens nicely, feeds and does well. And then at some point from 1-3 months it gradually starts opening up less and less. Eventually it does not open at all and the tissue more or less just disappears. There is never that massive brown blob that occurs from brown jelly disease and no fish are picking at it. I did treat one of the tanks with Erythromycin to treat red slime and the problem stopped for a couple of months, only to come back and wipe out the remaining Euphyllias. I have been in the hobby for a long time and have grown some beautiful Euphyllias during that time. But now it is impossible for me to keep even common ones or frags successfully grown in outside tanks by others. I have dipped these corals and quarantined them when I got them and I have dipped in various solutions once they start failing without any success. I would like to know if anyoe else is having this problem especially with Aussie corals? Any help or treatments would be appreciated. __________________ So many corals, so little time Current Tank Info: 300 sps,

02/15/2013, 08:13 AM	#3
crlmn11 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 68	Fairy wrasses, anthias, Cardinals, firefish, hogfish, sleeper gobies, and a small golden blenny. Water paramters are pH 8.00-8.2, PO4 .02, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate undetectable, temp 78, calcium 480, magnesium, 1400, alkalinity 2.5 mEq/L. Everything else, ie. sps, acans, chalices, etc do great. It is only the Euphyllias. They even eat initially and then just wither away __________________ So many corals, so little time Current Tank Info: 300 sps,

02/15/2013, 08:50 AM	#5
crlmn11 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 68	I have moved them up, down, into low current and into high current once they start closing up and they just continue to whither away. It has been all types in different currents and have even had them switch tanks. One is lit by LEDs the other by metal halides and LEDs. It has not mattered. __________________ So many corals, so little time Current Tank Info: 300 sps,

02/15/2013, 01:17 AM	#2
Bruno3047 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,018	What fish are in your tank?

02/15/2013, 08:46 AM	#4
E Rosewater Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 846	Did you try moving them around a bit? My frogspawn really closed up, I moved it to an area of lower flow and they opened up. My torches seem to like fairly high flow.

02/15/2013, 12:49 PM	#6
Bruno3047 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,018	Well, no potential culprits in your fish list. This is really a tough one. The only possible thing I can think of is maybe your calcium is a bit high? Hope you get things straightened out.