Swc 250 skimmer pump question???????

Joeysteele123 · 04/16/2013, 05:40 AM

I have a swc 250 extreme with the 2 sicce 2500. I'm having problems getting the impeller shafts so I think it's time to upgrade. I will be modding the skimmer to use 1 bubble blaster pump. I need to know if I should use the bbhy3000 or the bbhy5000. Price is not a concern bc they are about $20 different. Thanks!!!

wildman926 · 04/16/2013, 06:21 AM

Add up the gph rating of the two Sicce pumps, and that will give you your answer of which BB pump to get.

Joeysteele123 · 04/16/2013, 06:33 AM

That would mean I would need 1320 gph through the skimmer? That can't be right I feel like the bb5000 would be a little over kill an that says it puts out 600!

wildman926 · 04/16/2013, 06:58 AM

Yes, that is not right. If you can find what the pumps put out as a skimmer pump, not a return pump, that is what you need to get. Do you think that skimmer body can handle that amount of flow? LOL...

Joeysteele123 · 04/16/2013, 07:54 AM

Ok this is what I've found out which of the info do I need to match up?

Pump Model: PSK-2500
Power: 29-31 Watts
Frequency: 60 Hz
Max Flow Rate: 660 gph
Max Head: 9.5 ft
SCFH: 30-35
Inlet: 1" MPT
Output: 3/4" FPT

*Item #: HY-3000S
*Bubble Blaster 3000 Pinwheel Pump
*Voltage: 120v/60Hz
*Wattage: 40w
*Air draw: 1100 L/H (39 SCFH)
*GPH: 400
*Efficiency: 90%

* Item #: HY-5000S
* Bubble Blaster 5000 Pinwheel Pump
* Voltage: 120v/60Hz
* Wattage: 55w
* Air draw: 2100 L/H (72 SCFH)
* Efficiency: 95%

sirreal63 · 04/16/2013, 08:07 AM

The Sicce pulls about 900-1000 l/h of air, you have two of them so you want a pump that will pull about 2000 l/h so that makes the BB5000 the better fit for the skimmer body.

Joeysteele123 · 04/16/2013, 10:18 AM

Ok thanks! Anybody else have a suggestion?

nikon187 · 04/16/2013, 01:40 PM

5000 all the way. I have one on mine, best skimmer ive ever run.

Joeysteele123 · 04/17/2013, 05:51 AM

Awesome 5000 it is just ordered it last night should be here in a few days!

Joeysteele123 · 04/23/2013, 04:38 PM

Nikon 187 just got pump in. What parts did you use to convert the one half of British thread union to the now larger size on the 5000?

mfinn · 04/23/2013, 05:14 PM

I'm thinking about doing this for my Bubble Master 250. Hate those psk2500's.

buckeyereefer1 · 04/23/2013, 07:09 PM

your gonna LOVE the BB5000 !!!!

nikon187 · 04/23/2013, 07:13 PM

You need to order the parts from coralvue to adapt to the swc, just tell them what you are doing and they will help you out.

Joeysteele123 · 04/23/2013, 07:47 PM

Awesome, thank you. I have it set up now with some PVC parts from lowes and is working great but would to poss have a short adapter withe the correct thread pitch thanks everyone. And the bb 5000 is a bubble producing sob lol

Jaculus · 08/21/2014, 08:27 AM

Resurrecting this old thread Wondering if anyone else is and HAS been running the BB 5000 on a SWC 250 series skimmer. I have a 250 /2 like the OP with one bad PSK-2500 with shorting wires. I HATE these pumps. I tried ordering a new PSK2500 from the SWC website but now having to file refund request with Paypal since it has been two weeks with no response from SWC. So I am thinking I will try the BB 5000.

Questions, if running a single BB 5000 on this then what have any of you done with the other pump inlet? I don't want to leave the old PSK-2500 on it and I don't want to leave the inlet open. I am pretty sure I should just close the inlet off somehow in a secure but temporary manner.

Looking for pics and/or experiences from anyone that may have modded their 250 series SWC with a BB 5000 to find out if it was the correct pump/impeller etc for this skimmer body.

mfinn · 08/21/2014, 09:31 AM

I replaced the old psk 2500 pumps with 2 psk 1000 pumps on my Bubble Master 250.
I got mine from Avast Marine.

Jaculus · 08/21/2014, 02:38 PM

My only problem with that is space. You have to get that converter to fit the 1000 in n place of the 2500 and I don't have that much room for both pumps. But I am fairly sure if I can run one bb5000 I will have enough space. Thanks for the reply though

blowmecius · 09/05/2014, 09:07 AM

Mark - if you can remove the union on the skimmer you might be able to use vinyl hose to make the connection like shown here:

PS- I just ordered a replacement PSK 2500 with needle wheel and venturi from another on-line retailer. They are still available.

Jaculus · 09/08/2014, 08:03 PM

Yeah. Thanks. I might still go the 1000. I ordered the Psk2500 from saltwater connection dot Com. It's been 4 weeks. No email no product. Emails asking about it and got no replies. Submitted paypal for refund. I might just go the 1000 route

overexposed · 12/01/2014, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaculus

Yeah. Thanks. I might still go the 1000. I ordered the Psk2500 from saltwater connection dot Com. It's been 4 weeks. No email no product. Emails asking about it and got no replies. Submitted paypal for refund. I might just go the 1000 route

Did you ever hear back from SWC? I'm in a similar situation after ordering an Askoll pump from them 2 weeks ago.

nikon187 · 12/01/2014, 03:30 PM

I dont think swc has been in business for a little over a yr. Legal issues i believe

Jaculus · 12/01/2014, 05:05 PM

Nope. I got my refund from paypal though. Not a bit of communication from swc

overexposed · 12/01/2014, 08:40 PM

Good to know, thanks. Filed my dispute. Wish that SWC would have turned off their webstore when they decided to stop doing business.....

04/16/2013, 05:40 AM	#1
Joeysteele123 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 49	Swc 250 skimmer pump question??????? I have a swc 250 extreme with the 2 sicce 2500. I'm having problems getting the impeller shafts so I think it's time to upgrade. I will be modding the skimmer to use 1 bubble blaster pump. I need to know if I should use the bbhy3000 or the bbhy5000. Price is not a concern bc they are about $20 different. Thanks!!!

04/16/2013, 06:21 AM	#2
wildman926 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: CTX Posts: 2,904	Add up the gph rating of the two Sicce pumps, and that will give you your answer of which BB pump to get. __________________ Beware of recommendations by those who don't actually use their recommendation!! The search function actually works quite well!! Tanks:Planet Aquarium 150g LPS, Planet Aquarium 90g Softie

04/16/2013, 06:58 AM	#4
wildman926 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: CTX Posts: 2,904	Yes, that is not right. If you can find what the pumps put out as a skimmer pump, not a return pump, that is what you need to get. Do you think that skimmer body can handle that amount of flow? LOL... __________________ Beware of recommendations by those who don't actually use their recommendation!! The search function actually works quite well!! Tanks:Planet Aquarium 150g LPS, Planet Aquarium 90g Softie

04/16/2013, 08:07 AM	#6
sirreal63 Go Spurs Go!!! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Meadowlakes Texas Posts: 13,357	The Sicce pulls about 900-1000 l/h of air, you have two of them so you want a pump that will pull about 2000 l/h so that makes the BB5000 the better fit for the skimmer body. __________________ Jack No One has ever been seriously injured by using the search function. Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency. Current Tank Info: Reefing the Pentagon.

04/16/2013, 01:40 PM	#8
nikon187 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 4,717	5000 all the way. I have one on mine, best skimmer ive ever run. __________________ ----------------- Current Tanks: New 210 custom 84 x 24 x 24, 60g sump, SWC 250 extreme with bubble blaster 5000, 2 vortech mp40, 2 vortech mp10, 12 T5, Water blaster 5000, warner marine bio pellets, 60g clownfish cube, red carpet anemone with a 25g sump,SRO octopus 1000sss, 250w radium, lumenarc large.

04/16/2013, 06:33 AM	#3
Joeysteele123 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 49	That would mean I would need 1320 gph through the skimmer? That can't be right I feel like the bb5000 would be a little over kill an that says it puts out 600!

04/16/2013, 07:54 AM	#5
Joeysteele123 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 49	Ok this is what I've found out which of the info do I need to match up? Pump Model: PSK-2500 Power: 29-31 Watts Frequency: 60 Hz Max Flow Rate: 660 gph Max Head: 9.5 ft SCFH: 30-35 Inlet: 1" MPT Output: 3/4" FPT Item #: HY-3000S Bubble Blaster 3000 Pinwheel Pump Voltage: 120v/60Hz Wattage: 40w Air draw: 1100 L/H (39 SCFH) GPH: 400 Efficiency: 90% Item #: HY-5000S * Bubble Blaster 5000 Pinwheel Pump * Voltage: 120v/60Hz * Wattage: 55w * Air draw: 2100 L/H (72 SCFH) * Efficiency: 95%

04/16/2013, 10:18 AM	#7
Joeysteele123 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 49	Ok thanks! Anybody else have a suggestion?

04/17/2013, 05:51 AM	#9
Joeysteele123 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 49	Awesome 5000 it is just ordered it last night should be here in a few days!

04/23/2013, 04:38 PM	#10
Joeysteele123 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 49	Nikon 187 just got pump in. What parts did you use to convert the one half of British thread union to the now larger size on the 5000?

04/23/2013, 05:14 PM	#11
mfinn Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Olympia. WA. Posts: 8,648	I'm thinking about doing this for my Bubble Master 250. Hate those psk2500's. __________________ 240 gallon soft coral tank 50 gallon lps tank

04/23/2013, 07:09 PM	#12
buckeyereefer1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 194	your gonna LOVE the BB5000 !!!!

04/23/2013, 07:13 PM	#13
nikon187 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 4,717	You need to order the parts from coralvue to adapt to the swc, just tell them what you are doing and they will help you out. __________________ ----------------- Current Tanks: New 210 custom 84 x 24 x 24, 60g sump, SWC 250 extreme with bubble blaster 5000, 2 vortech mp40, 2 vortech mp10, 12 T5, Water blaster 5000, warner marine bio pellets, 60g clownfish cube, red carpet anemone with a 25g sump,SRO octopus 1000sss, 250w radium, lumenarc large.

04/23/2013, 07:47 PM	#14
Joeysteele123 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 49	Awesome, thank you. I have it set up now with some PVC parts from lowes and is working great but would to poss have a short adapter withe the correct thread pitch thanks everyone. And the bb 5000 is a bubble producing sob lol

08/21/2014, 08:27 AM	#15
Jaculus Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Alliance, OH Posts: 832	Resurrecting this old thread Wondering if anyone else is and HAS been running the BB 5000 on a SWC 250 series skimmer. I have a 250 /2 like the OP with one bad PSK-2500 with shorting wires. I HATE these pumps. I tried ordering a new PSK2500 from the SWC website but now having to file refund request with Paypal since it has been two weeks with no response from SWC. So I am thinking I will try the BB 5000. Questions, if running a single BB 5000 on this then what have any of you done with the other pump inlet? I don't want to leave the old PSK-2500 on it and I don't want to leave the inlet open. I am pretty sure I should just close the inlet off somehow in a secure but temporary manner. Looking for pics and/or experiences from anyone that may have modded their 250 series SWC with a BB 5000 to find out if it was the correct pump/impeller etc for this skimmer body. __________________ "Mark" Current Tank Info: 200 Gal DD tank, 2 Reefbrite 250w MH 10/20K with Actinic LED strips, Apex Neptune 2016

08/21/2014, 09:31 AM	#16
mfinn Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Olympia. WA. Posts: 8,648	I replaced the old psk 2500 pumps with 2 psk 1000 pumps on my Bubble Master 250. I got mine from Avast Marine. __________________ 240 gallon soft coral tank 50 gallon lps tank

08/21/2014, 02:38 PM	#17
Jaculus Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Alliance, OH Posts: 832	My only problem with that is space. You have to get that converter to fit the 1000 in n place of the 2500 and I don't have that much room for both pumps. But I am fairly sure if I can run one bb5000 I will have enough space. Thanks for the reply though __________________ "Mark" Current Tank Info: 200 Gal DD tank, 2 Reefbrite 250w MH 10/20K with Actinic LED strips, Apex Neptune 2016

09/05/2014, 09:07 AM	#18
blowmecius Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Maryand Posts: 177	Mark - if you can remove the union on the skimmer you might be able to use vinyl hose to make the connection like shown here: PS- I just ordered a replacement PSK 2500 with needle wheel and venturi from another on-line retailer. They are still available. __________________ Homer no function beer well without.

09/08/2014, 08:03 PM	#19
Jaculus Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Alliance, OH Posts: 832	Yeah. Thanks. I might still go the 1000. I ordered the Psk2500 from saltwater connection dot Com. It's been 4 weeks. No email no product. Emails asking about it and got no replies. Submitted paypal for refund. I might just go the 1000 route __________________ "Mark" Current Tank Info: 200 Gal DD tank, 2 Reefbrite 250w MH 10/20K with Actinic LED strips, Apex Neptune 2016

12/01/2014, 03:30 PM	#21
nikon187 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 4,717	I dont think swc has been in business for a little over a yr. Legal issues i believe __________________ ----------------- Current Tanks: New 210 custom 84 x 24 x 24, 60g sump, SWC 250 extreme with bubble blaster 5000, 2 vortech mp40, 2 vortech mp10, 12 T5, Water blaster 5000, warner marine bio pellets, 60g clownfish cube, red carpet anemone with a 25g sump,SRO octopus 1000sss, 250w radium, lumenarc large.

12/01/2014, 05:05 PM	#22
Jaculus Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Alliance, OH Posts: 832	Nope. I got my refund from paypal though. Not a bit of communication from swc __________________ "Mark" Current Tank Info: 200 Gal DD tank, 2 Reefbrite 250w MH 10/20K with Actinic LED strips, Apex Neptune 2016

12/01/2014, 08:40 PM	#23
overexposed Acroholic Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 296	Good to know, thanks. Filed my dispute. Wish that SWC would have turned off their webstore when they decided to stop doing business..... __________________ ~Phil Current Tank Info: 205 gallon in-wall, SPS dominated