Deep Sand Bed VS Miracle Mud VS Both

dominguez00025 · 04/30/2013, 11:17 PM

Hey guys I am looking to do a refugium in my sump. I went to 3 local fish stores and they each told me a different thing as far as what to use. One said just a deep sand bed, the other said miracle mud works great, and the third said to use both. I'm really not sure what to do or use, so I am asking you guys for help. What do you guys/girls use or recommened for my refugium?

hollister · 04/30/2013, 11:26 PM

I used a 4 inch miracle mud base with a 2 inch sand cover with great results....

downbeach · 05/01/2013, 05:00 AM

I have a 6" DSB in my DT, and use ~ 2" of MM in my fuge.

dominguez00025 · 05/01/2013, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by downbeach

I have a 6" DSB in my DT, and use ~ 2" of MM in my fuge.

Thing is I wanna do a bb tank

SeargentSlice · 05/01/2013, 05:28 AM

I hava bare bottom 75gal with 1inch MM chateo and mangroves in my fuge bin working great nitrates 1ppm or less and i feed my fish and corals alot. Remember if your gonna run MM needs to be changed every 4-5mnths.

dominguez00025 · 05/01/2013, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SeargentSlice

I hava bare bottom 75gal with 1inch MM chateo and mangroves in my fuge bin working great nitrates 1ppm or less and i feed my fish and corals alot. Remember if your gonna run MM needs to be changed every 4-5mnths.

Would I be fine just using a deep sand bed in there with snails and starfish?

dominguez00025 · 05/01/2013, 07:52 PM

Need more suggestions

luamada · 08/19/2014, 09:44 PM

hello so what is best MM or DSB for a refugium? i plan on a heavy load of both fish and corals. please advise ASAP. thank you

SeedlessOne · 08/20/2014, 10:39 AM

MM is a waste. Save your money. It serves ZERO purpose...it just makes your wallet lighter.

Shivsreef · 08/20/2014, 12:12 PM

Just use both anyway as they say the more the merrier likewise two different products are more likely to take more effect than just one

SeedlessOne · 08/20/2014, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shivsreef

Just use both anyway as they say the more the merrier likewise two different products are more likely to take more effect than just one

This not a good way to go about reefing.

I would always suggest everyone do their own research before they just throw items in their tank

luamada · 08/22/2014, 10:58 AM

Thank you all. I decided to go with the sand only as it would be easier to maintain it and not have to replace so often. Now deciding on what kind of sand but I guess i will just go to the local store... ;-)

pmrossetti · 08/22/2014, 02:25 PM

just live rock and macro for me

kw22 · 08/22/2014, 02:27 PM

I would do a deep sand bed.I am not a big fan of miracle mud TBQH.

04/30/2013, 11:17 PM	#1
dominguez00025 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 170	Deep Sand Bed VS Miracle Mud VS Both Hey guys I am looking to do a refugium in my sump. I went to 3 local fish stores and they each told me a different thing as far as what to use. One said just a deep sand bed, the other said miracle mud works great, and the third said to use both. I'm really not sure what to do or use, so I am asking you guys for help. What do you guys/girls use or recommened for my refugium?

08/19/2014, 09:44 PM	#8
luamada Love saltwater fishes... Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Valrico Posts: 394 Blog Entries: 12	hello so what is best MM or DSB for a refugium? i plan on a heavy load of both fish and corals. please advise ASAP. thank you __________________ 350G, 100Gsump, 350lb of live rock-dead, 3 Radion PRO, Apex Controller with wireless capability, PH realtor, calcium Reactor, carbon Reactor, 1 MPs60, 1MP 40, auto-top off, auto water changer, skimme Current Tank Info: 350G Deep See Aquatic with Sapphire glass 96.5X36.5X24, Sump Refugium, LED Radion PRO 3, 350 LV rock, Apex Controller, MP 60, auto-top-off, more to come

08/20/2014, 10:39 AM	#9
SeedlessOne Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pooler, GA Posts: 887	MM is a waste. Save your money. It serves ZERO purpose...it just makes your wallet lighter. __________________ 150g Display (48" X 30" X 24") bigger money pit..... 120g Display (48" X 24" X 24") money pit Current Tank Info: Custom 150g

08/20/2014, 12:12 PM	#10
Shivsreef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 319	Just use both anyway as they say the more the merrier likewise two different products are more likely to take more effect than just one __________________ Shiv

08/22/2014, 10:58 AM	#12
luamada Love saltwater fishes... Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Valrico Posts: 394 Blog Entries: 12	Thank you all. I decided to go with the sand only as it would be easier to maintain it and not have to replace so often. Now deciding on what kind of sand but I guess i will just go to the local store... ;-) __________________ 350G, 100Gsump, 350lb of live rock-dead, 3 Radion PRO, Apex Controller with wireless capability, PH realtor, calcium Reactor, carbon Reactor, 1 MPs60, 1MP 40, auto-top off, auto water changer, skimme Current Tank Info: 350G Deep See Aquatic with Sapphire glass 96.5X36.5X24, Sump Refugium, LED Radion PRO 3, 350 LV rock, Apex Controller, MP 60, auto-top-off, more to come

04/30/2013, 11:26 PM	#2
hollister Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 2,037	I used a 4 inch miracle mud base with a 2 inch sand cover with great results....

05/01/2013, 05:00 AM	#3
downbeach Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Smyrna, Delaware Posts: 3,767	I have a 6" DSB in my DT, and use ~ 2" of MM in my fuge.

05/01/2013, 05:28 AM	#5
SeargentSlice Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Weathersfield, OHIO Posts: 219	I hava bare bottom 75gal with 1inch MM chateo and mangroves in my fuge bin working great nitrates 1ppm or less and i feed my fish and corals alot. Remember if your gonna run MM needs to be changed every 4-5mnths.

05/01/2013, 07:52 PM	#7
dominguez00025 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 170	Need more suggestions

08/22/2014, 02:25 PM	#13
pmrossetti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cali. Posts: 3,199	just live rock and macro for me

08/22/2014, 02:27 PM	#14
kw22 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Éire (Republic of Ireland) Posts: 435	I would do a deep sand bed.I am not a big fan of miracle mud TBQH. __________________ If you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree,it will spend its whole life thinking that it is stupid. Current Tank Info: All freshwater at the moment.Hoping to set up a marine tank in the future.