ETSS 800 Downdraft Skimmer with bluline pump

pompeyjohn · 06/26/2013, 09:35 PM

I have seen one of these for sale locally. How would it compare to the SCA150 / Bubble Magus NAC6?

Thanks in advance.

pompeyjohn · 06/26/2013, 10:33 PM

How about combining the skimmer with one of the newer generation dc pumps. They are supposed to be less power hungry.

TimeConsumer · 06/27/2013, 09:25 AM

Those skimmers can't hold a candle to a downdraft like the ETSS or a Beckett skimmer. The ETSS will strip the water of organics. Yes, it needs a very powerful pump and generates a lot of heat, noise, and electrical bills. But, it gets the job done like nobody's business. I'm not sure about how well it would run with a DC pump, there's a thread on them in here you can ask to see if anyone has tried it.

jjk_reef00 · 06/27/2013, 11:00 AM

ETSS needs a high pressure pump so DC pumps will not work well. If you don't mind the electricity costs then go for it. I prefer the newer more effecient designs.

nonentity · 06/27/2013, 01:16 PM

Anyone know what is going on with ETSS? I ordered a skimmer/sump/2 pumps back on 4/24/13 for a large custom tank we were putting in at a dentist office. I ordered through Gary directly through AETech and my account was charged ( over $1400 ) on 4/25. I was told it would arrive in 2 weeks. I have been told it would be here mid-week or that he was "sending it out the next morning" 4-5 times. It has been over 8 weeks now and I have not been able to get them on the phone the last 2 days because I just want the order cancelled and my money back. I always thought very highly of their products but I had never ordered directly through them. Reputable companies do not behave this way. Help if anyone knows what is going on with them

acropora.reef · 06/27/2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nonentity

Anyone know what is going on with ETSS? I ordered a skimmer/sump/2 pumps back on 4/24/13 for a large custom tank we were putting in at a dentist office. I ordered through Gary directly through AETech and my account was charged ( over $1400 ) on 4/25. I was told it would arrive in 2 weeks. I have been told it would be here mid-week or that he was "sending it out the next morning" 4-5 times. It has been over 8 weeks now and I have not been able to get them on the phone the last 2 days because I just want the order cancelled and my money back. I always thought very highly of their products but I had never ordered directly through them. Reputable companies do not behave this way. Help if anyone knows what is going on with them

Sorry for you, the guy Gary as the worths communication skill (none...) and if you already pay, don't expect any more attention from him.

nonentity · 06/29/2013, 11:16 AM

I just can not believe they have been so praised. Have they always been this shadey or are they going under and just scamming as much money as they can?

cidbozek · 06/29/2013, 11:37 AM

I have a sump/skimmer combo from him and love it. Ive had to call him a few times and always got to speak to him or got a call back with in a few hrs, interesting!

mwb32 · 06/30/2013, 02:14 AM

Have had a SB40 on order for 11 weeks. Gary's voice mail has been full for weeks at a time. I have had all the promises that it's shipped and the unit never shows. What I was told by one of the big supply houses is they feel Gary is looking for somebody to take over the business and Gary keeps the patents and can take it easy and get a percentage of the profit. The problem is with all this running around people are getting won't be a business left. If you check all the big houses they show his products discontinued. really must say Iam worried about my current order and will advise if I get it.

keithhays · 06/30/2013, 05:23 AM

The calculations for comparing protein skimmers are in this thread with examples.
This of course doesn't count electrical costs, but claims of more or less efficiency, etc. quickly become relative to the amount of water needing to be filtered:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...culate+skimmer

nonentity · 06/30/2013, 02:34 PM

I talked to my bank on Saturday and began the process to reverse the charge. It makes our little maintinance company look bad and i did not want to get ripped off in the end.

mwb32 · 07/01/2013, 02:23 PM

This is not good have sent a fax asking for a tracking number if I don't get one will have to call the bank and get the charges reversed.

mwb32 · 07/04/2013, 04:50 AM

Received my SB40, It looks great.

reeftivo · 07/04/2013, 10:31 AM

Good to hear!

Still very poor CS communication though.

06/26/2013, 09:35 PM	#1
pompeyjohn Registered Member. Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 890	ETSS 800 Downdraft Skimmer with bluline pump I have seen one of these for sale locally. How would it compare to the SCA150 / Bubble Magus NAC6? Thanks in advance.

06/27/2013, 09:25 AM	#3
TimeConsumer Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: New Orleans, La Posts: 1,919	Those skimmers can't hold a candle to a downdraft like the ETSS or a Beckett skimmer. The ETSS will strip the water of organics. Yes, it needs a very powerful pump and generates a lot of heat, noise, and electrical bills. But, it gets the job done like nobody's business. I'm not sure about how well it would run with a DC pump, there's a thread on them in here you can ask to see if anyone has tried it. __________________ Steve - Retired from reefing, for now.

06/27/2013, 11:00 AM	#4
jjk_reef00 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,476	ETSS needs a high pressure pump so DC pumps will not work well. If you don't mind the electricity costs then go for it. I prefer the newer more effecient designs. __________________ I need more fish tank appliances! --Ed Current Tank Info: 375 FOWLR

07/04/2013, 10:31 AM	#14
reeftivo Skim junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: chino, CA Posts: 3,417	Good to hear! Still very poor CS communication though. __________________ I told you not to be stupid you moron!(Stern) Current Tank Info: 60 gal cube/20g tideline sump-mixed reef, Aquamaxx c-tech Ca Rx, Akula 160 skimmer, paxbellum N18, mitras LX7 lighting with T-5s, apex controller

06/26/2013, 10:33 PM	#2
pompeyjohn Registered Member. Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 890	How about combining the skimmer with one of the newer generation dc pumps. They are supposed to be less power hungry.

06/27/2013, 01:16 PM	#5
nonentity Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 3	Anyone know what is going on with ETSS? I ordered a skimmer/sump/2 pumps back on 4/24/13 for a large custom tank we were putting in at a dentist office. I ordered through Gary directly through AETech and my account was charged ( over $1400 ) on 4/25. I was told it would arrive in 2 weeks. I have been told it would be here mid-week or that he was "sending it out the next morning" 4-5 times. It has been over 8 weeks now and I have not been able to get them on the phone the last 2 days because I just want the order cancelled and my money back. I always thought very highly of their products but I had never ordered directly through them. Reputable companies do not behave this way. Help if anyone knows what is going on with them

06/29/2013, 11:16 AM	#7
nonentity Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 3	I just can not believe they have been so praised. Have they always been this shadey or are they going under and just scamming as much money as they can?

06/29/2013, 11:37 AM	#8
cidbozek Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 274	I have a sump/skimmer combo from him and love it. Ive had to call him a few times and always got to speak to him or got a call back with in a few hrs, interesting!

06/30/2013, 02:14 AM	#9
mwb32 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 31	Have had a SB40 on order for 11 weeks. Gary's voice mail has been full for weeks at a time. I have had all the promises that it's shipped and the unit never shows. What I was told by one of the big supply houses is they feel Gary is looking for somebody to take over the business and Gary keeps the patents and can take it easy and get a percentage of the profit. The problem is with all this running around people are getting won't be a business left. If you check all the big houses they show his products discontinued. really must say Iam worried about my current order and will advise if I get it.

06/30/2013, 05:23 AM	#10
keithhays Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,259	The calculations for comparing protein skimmers are in this thread with examples. This of course doesn't count electrical costs, but claims of more or less efficiency, etc. quickly become relative to the amount of water needing to be filtered: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...culate+skimmer

06/30/2013, 02:34 PM	#11
nonentity Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 3	I talked to my bank on Saturday and began the process to reverse the charge. It makes our little maintinance company look bad and i did not want to get ripped off in the end.

07/01/2013, 02:23 PM	#12
mwb32 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 31	This is not good have sent a fax asking for a tracking number if I don't get one will have to call the bank and get the charges reversed.

07/04/2013, 04:50 AM	#13
mwb32 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 31	Received my SB40, It looks great.