Wavebox on back?

craigwmiller · 07/08/2013, 09:08 PM

I'm looking for input for someone who has a wavebox, and possibly moved it around to find the best place in their tank

Back story, I'm planning a new build and want 3 viewable (unobstructed) sides. The overflow will be middle back, and I was hoping (at least that's where it is on my Visio drawing now) that I could build a wavebox on the rear panel, say 4-6" from the side wall... This would blow directly towards the front glass.

Tank will be 84" long, 24" wide, and between 20"-24" deep.

SO... Has anyone tried a wavebox at the end of a tank, blowing towards the front? I've seen a video with a cube tank where the wavebox was at the back corner and the flow blowing towards the front glass, producing a wave going left to right, which leads me to believe with much more distance (7' x 2') that the wave would very naturally be left to right.

I'm also contemplating putting a wavebox at each end of the back wall, alternating (but both independently controlled/tunable), and both blowing towards the front, so the flow out of each box could be possibly lessened in intensity but still have a successful wave.

Thoughts? Experiences? Videos?

Cheers,
Craig

craigwmiller · 07/09/2013, 12:42 PM

Here are the couple videos of the cube tank I referred to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh57RQiDfeQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH1zO4yzito

The wave does seem slightly twisted or just possibly a few percent off kilter -- though with a 7' x 2' tank, the displacement at one end compared to the other might naturally just turn the wave properly.

ganjero · 07/09/2013, 01:26 PM

Tunze nano wavebox can be setup like that (which is probably what you saw in the cube), the full wavebox can't. With your dimensions you will need a full wave box. You could also get two of the bigger tunze pumps and put them in the back panel and use them to make the wave pointing diagonally.

craigwmiller · 07/09/2013, 05:14 PM

Okay, so I decided to mock up a test, since I remembered I have a 6' long 150 gallon tank in my garage (going to be the future sump).

So I used a dollar store plastic container, and an MP40 to build a wavebox, and mounted it near one end, blowing towards the front of the glass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl0m2XwA_-Y

I may do other tests/videos since I haven't found much about this type of design anywhere, and it is seemingly brilliant for having 3 clean sides with a long-back-mounted overflow and now wavebox!

Hope this helps others!

I will update this thread if/when I do more testing. If anyone wants a specific test done let me know (I don't have any more spare pumps though

)

Craig

craigwmiller · 07/09/2013, 07:47 PM

Updated video.

I raised the water level and moved the wavebox up higher (so it's more realistic to the final height in a tank).

I stopped the video when I realized that I bought this tank second hand 2 days ago, and I wasn't exactly sure the stresses it could handle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKeMIRxMwNU

07/08/2013, 09:08 PM	#1
craigwmiller Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 11	Wavebox on back? I'm looking for input for someone who has a wavebox, and possibly moved it around to find the best place in their tank Back story, I'm planning a new build and want 3 viewable (unobstructed) sides. The overflow will be middle back, and I was hoping (at least that's where it is on my Visio drawing now) that I could build a wavebox on the rear panel, say 4-6" from the side wall... This would blow directly towards the front glass. Tank will be 84" long, 24" wide, and between 20"-24" deep. SO... Has anyone tried a wavebox at the end of a tank, blowing towards the front? I've seen a video with a cube tank where the wavebox was at the back corner and the flow blowing towards the front glass, producing a wave going left to right, which leads me to believe with much more distance (7' x 2') that the wave would very naturally be left to right. I'm also contemplating putting a wavebox at each end of the back wall, alternating (but both independently controlled/tunable), and both blowing towards the front, so the flow out of each box could be possibly lessened in intensity but still have a successful wave. Thoughts? Experiences? Videos? Cheers, Craig

07/09/2013, 12:42 PM	#2
craigwmiller Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 11	Here are the couple videos of the cube tank I referred to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh57RQiDfeQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH1zO4yzito The wave does seem slightly twisted or just possibly a few percent off kilter -- though with a 7' x 2' tank, the displacement at one end compared to the other might naturally just turn the wave properly.

07/09/2013, 01:26 PM	#3
ganjero saiperchémibatteilcorazon Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 4,027	Tunze nano wavebox can be setup like that (which is probably what you saw in the cube), the full wavebox can't. With your dimensions you will need a full wave box. You could also get two of the bigger tunze pumps and put them in the back panel and use them to make the wave pointing diagonally.

07/09/2013, 05:14 PM	#4
craigwmiller Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 11	Okay, so I decided to mock up a test, since I remembered I have a 6' long 150 gallon tank in my garage (going to be the future sump). So I used a dollar store plastic container, and an MP40 to build a wavebox, and mounted it near one end, blowing towards the front of the glass... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl0m2XwA_-Y I may do other tests/videos since I haven't found much about this type of design anywhere, and it is seemingly brilliant for having 3 clean sides with a long-back-mounted overflow and now wavebox! Hope this helps others! I will update this thread if/when I do more testing. If anyone wants a specific test done let me know (I don't have any more spare pumps though ) Craig

07/09/2013, 07:47 PM	#5
craigwmiller Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 11	Updated video. I raised the water level and moved the wavebox up higher (so it's more realistic to the final height in a tank). I stopped the video when I realized that I bought this tank second hand 2 days ago, and I wasn't exactly sure the stresses it could handle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKeMIRxMwNU