Flame angel?

Cooperdude916 · 07/14/2013, 06:30 AM

I have a 29 gallon bow front fowlr tank with a clownfish and a six line wrasse. I plan on adding a diamond watchman goby and a flame angel. I want to know if the flame angel would be fine to add to the tank. If so are there any special needs that they have?

randomfishguy85 · 07/14/2013, 06:41 AM

the flame angel will probably be fine. The diamond watchman goby will starve in a tank that small, and the six line may give any new comers a hard time

Deberber · 07/14/2013, 06:47 AM

Personally, I have to disagree with the flame angel in the tank that small. If you really want an angel, a cherub might make a better choice, but can be aggressive.

jimlin · 07/14/2013, 07:53 AM

your tank should be ok for a flame angel according to my local fish store. i was going to purchase one for my 24 gallon and they said it would be ok, buy a small one and to give them plenty of hiding spots.

Biocubehqi · 07/14/2013, 07:58 AM

I have to disagree with the flame, I had one in my 29, it was a very bad idea, and those fish grow very big, they need lots of rock work not only to hide but to graze on. You should double the tank size if you want a flame.

Dissy · 07/14/2013, 08:42 AM

I had a Flame Angel in my 29 Biocube, which I sold back to the lfs after two weeks, because I felt sorry for it. They're *very* active fish, and I just felt it didn't have enough swimming room. IMO, your tank should be twice the size it is for one...

t4zalews · 07/14/2013, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jimlin

your tank should be ok for a flame angel according to my local fish store. i was going to purchase one for my 24 gallon and they said it would be ok, buy a small one and to give them plenty of hiding spots.

Of course they would, its a sale. I'd disregard any advice that LFS gives you.

Flame angels need at least a 55g tank.

ca1ore · 07/14/2013, 09:49 AM

I would not put a flame in anything less than a 75 frankly. Diamond watchman really needs to be eating prepared foods if you are going to have much chance of keeping it longer. Mine eats mysis, krill, even nori, and is the biggest piggy in my tank.

johnc99 · 07/14/2013, 10:52 AM

A flame angel in a 29G should be fine depending upon the other tank mates and how much LR, filtration etc you have. But in a space that small I would be concerned with aggression issues especially with a 6-line. If it were going to be the only fish or if it were kept with a couple on non-aggressives (say firefish) then it should be OK. But...

I kept my flame in my 29G with a couple of clowns and a bicolor blenny for a couple of years with only a bit of aggression between the flame and clowns. I was using a lot of live rock so there was a lot of hiding places. As soon as I upgraded to the 40B the aggression immediately lessened and I could see that all of the fish were acting in a much more relaxed manner. With the increased footprint there was always something more interesting to investigate at the other end of the tank.

Cooperdude916 · 07/14/2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by johnc99

A flame angel in a 29G should be fine depending upon the other tank mates and how much LR, filtration etc you have. But in a space that small I would be concerned with aggression issues especially with a 6-line. If it were going to be the only fish or if it were kept with a couple on non-aggressives (say firefish) then it should be OK. But...

I kept my flame in my 29G with a couple of clowns and a bicolor blenny for a couple of years with only a bit of aggression between the flame and clowns. I was using a lot of live rock so there was a lot of hiding places. As soon as I upgraded to the 40B the aggression immediately lessened and I could see that all of the fish were acting in a much more relaxed manner. With the increased footprint there was always something more interesting to investigate at the other end of the tank.

I had a Pygmy cherub angel that died a couple of months ago and the sixline and him were best buddies. I want to get a flame or coral beauty angel to replace the cherub.

Lincutis · 07/14/2013, 05:13 PM

Go read the care of the flame angel for yourself.
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...444&pcatid=444

Twistofer · 07/14/2013, 05:59 PM

Flame angels are absolutely beautiful...in a 75 gal or larger tank. I've had 2 at 2 different times, and they were wonderful. The dwarf angels tend to be very active. I really don't recommend any of them in a nano aquarium. Well, maybe a 30+ tank, like the cherub. Maybe, and then the tank should be at least 6 months old ... well established live rock.

fishmate · 07/14/2013, 06:59 PM

i would not put a flame angel in a tank that small either

another vote for them needing penty of room to swim around

Crimson · 07/14/2013, 07:08 PM

Consider the fact it's not 29gal of swimming space with live rock and such. IMO its just as bad putting a tang in at 29. Sadly saltwater doesn't have too many fresh water fish equivalent of a neon. Maybe because the ocean tends to be bigger lol.

UlyssesG305 · 07/15/2013, 10:33 AM

My friend wants his flame angle out of his small.

07/14/2013, 06:30 AM	#1
Cooperdude916 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In the ocean Posts: 106	Flame angel? I have a 29 gallon bow front fowlr tank with a clownfish and a six line wrasse. I plan on adding a diamond watchman goby and a flame angel. I want to know if the flame angel would be fine to add to the tank. If so are there any special needs that they have?

07/14/2013, 07:58 AM	#5
Biocubehqi Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Illinois Posts: 777	I have to disagree with the flame, I had one in my 29, it was a very bad idea, and those fish grow very big, they need lots of rock work not only to hide but to graze on. You should double the tank size if you want a flame. Last edited by Biocubehqi; 07/14/2013 at 08:42 AM.

07/14/2013, 10:52 AM	#9
johnc99 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Los Gatos, CA Posts: 224	A flame angel in a 29G should be fine depending upon the other tank mates and how much LR, filtration etc you have. But in a space that small I would be concerned with aggression issues especially with a 6-line. If it were going to be the only fish or if it were kept with a couple on non-aggressives (say firefish) then it should be OK. But... I kept my flame in my 29G with a couple of clowns and a bicolor blenny for a couple of years with only a bit of aggression between the flame and clowns. I was using a lot of live rock so there was a lot of hiding places. As soon as I upgraded to the 40B the aggression immediately lessened and I could see that all of the fish were acting in a much more relaxed manner. With the increased footprint there was always something more interesting to investigate at the other end of the tank. __________________ We must recognize the dignity which all creatures possess, and we must respect it for as long as we have them in our charge. - "Coldwater Fish" by Roy Pinks Current Tank Info: 40B FOWLR w/ Eshopps R-100, Aquamaxx ConeS CO-1, Eheim 3000+ return, AquaticLife 4x39w HO T5s

07/14/2013, 05:13 PM	#11
Lincutis Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Columbus Posts: 1,911	Go read the care of the flame angel for yourself. http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...444&pcatid=444 __________________ Lindsey ( That's Mr. Smith to you ) . Current Tank Info: 40 Gallon Breeder with 20 gallon sump./Apex, AI Sol Blue, In Sump Skimmer, Geo Calcium Reactor, WP-25 Wave Pump, Tunze Nano ATO, Carbon/GFO Reactors

07/14/2013, 05:59 PM	#12
Twistofer Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Montana Posts: 371	Flame angels are absolutely beautiful...in a 75 gal or larger tank. I've had 2 at 2 different times, and they were wonderful. The dwarf angels tend to be very active. I really don't recommend any of them in a nano aquarium. Well, maybe a 30+ tank, like the cherub. Maybe, and then the tank should be at least 6 months old ... well established live rock. __________________ See what is; See what is not; Find the True Way ...The Buddha Current Tank Info: 120 gal New Build Coming Soon

07/14/2013, 06:41 AM	#2
randomfishguy85 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Ajax, Ontario Posts: 522	the flame angel will probably be fine. The diamond watchman goby will starve in a tank that small, and the six line may give any new comers a hard time

07/14/2013, 06:47 AM	#3
Deberber Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: North Carolina Posts: 451	Personally, I have to disagree with the flame angel in the tank that small. If you really want an angel, a cherub might make a better choice, but can be aggressive.

07/14/2013, 07:53 AM	#4
jimlin Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 110	your tank should be ok for a flame angel according to my local fish store. i was going to purchase one for my 24 gallon and they said it would be ok, buy a small one and to give them plenty of hiding spots.

07/14/2013, 08:42 AM	#6
Dissy Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 257	I had a Flame Angel in my 29 Biocube, which I sold back to the lfs after two weeks, because I felt sorry for it. They're very active fish, and I just felt it didn't have enough swimming room. IMO, your tank should be twice the size it is for one...

07/14/2013, 09:49 AM	#8
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	I would not put a flame in anything less than a 75 frankly. Diamond watchman really needs to be eating prepared foods if you are going to have much chance of keeping it longer. Mine eats mysis, krill, even nori, and is the biggest piggy in my tank.

07/14/2013, 06:59 PM	#13
fishmate Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 144	i would not put a flame angel in a tank that small either another vote for them needing penty of room to swim around __________________ How do I change this?

07/14/2013, 07:08 PM	#14
Crimson Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: South Jersey Posts: 421	Consider the fact it's not 29gal of swimming space with live rock and such. IMO its just as bad putting a tang in at 29. Sadly saltwater doesn't have too many fresh water fish equivalent of a neon. Maybe because the ocean tends to be bigger lol. __________________ -Paul New years resolution... staying out of the lounge. Current Tank Info: 36x18x12 AIO Peninsula, T5's 2x Kessil a160we

07/15/2013, 10:33 AM	#15
UlyssesG305 Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: MiAMi Posts: 48	My friend wants his flame angle out of his small.