Herbie Help

doctorvu · 07/17/2013, 08:05 AM

Hi everyone! I have what seems to be a stupid question (if there is such a thing). I am returning to hobby after 20 years and setting up a 120 XH with sump in the basement directly under show tank by about 10 feet. I have dual overflow, 2 holes in each corner. My question is can I keep 1 return in each corner, and have one corner be Herbie drain and the other corner be my "emergency" drain? I am trying to silence my drains and currently have stockmans set up (one in each corner) which are OK so far....I have to make them taller to eliminate the "waterfall" noise as my water height in my overflows is about 2 or so inches less than the height of the overflow wall. I am hoping to have someone with more experience with trial and error save me some aggravation. Thanks!!

daplatapus · 07/17/2013, 08:12 AM

I think the only problem with that set up, is you get no water movement in the one overflow with the emergency drain. That water goes in the overflow and stagnates.

doctorvu · 07/17/2013, 09:00 AM

great point....thanks.

Snausy · 07/17/2013, 02:12 PM

Just run your returns up over the back with some tubing and a few 90's... I have my 300 set up that way. Two mains, two emergencies and then the returns come over the top-back down into the overflow on each side.

Then out a bulkhead hole in the overflow face into the tank with a lock-line jet. Very clean and looks built in.

Works well if you can afford an inch or two behind the tank.

doctorvu · 07/17/2013, 10:07 PM

Yeah, I think I'm heading that direction. Wife wants it SILENT since it is in the family room....still working on getting my stockman's and overflow quieter, but the reviews of the herbie are so strong it seems like that's the best way to go. Thanks for your input and taking the time to offer help!

michael.lemke · 07/17/2013, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Snausy

Just run your returns up over the back with some tubing and a few 90's... I have my 300 set up that way. Two mains, two emergencies and then the returns come over the top-back down into the overflow on each side.

Then out a bulkhead hole in the overflow face into the tank with a lock-line jet. Very clean and looks built in.

Works well if you can afford an inch or two behind the tank.

Plus 1. I am running "dual herbies" in my 120 and drilled the back for the return. Silent.

07/17/2013, 08:05 AM	#1
doctorvu Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 13	Herbie Help Hi everyone! I have what seems to be a stupid question (if there is such a thing). I am returning to hobby after 20 years and setting up a 120 XH with sump in the basement directly under show tank by about 10 feet. I have dual overflow, 2 holes in each corner. My question is can I keep 1 return in each corner, and have one corner be Herbie drain and the other corner be my "emergency" drain? I am trying to silence my drains and currently have stockmans set up (one in each corner) which are OK so far....I have to make them taller to eliminate the "waterfall" noise as my water height in my overflows is about 2 or so inches less than the height of the overflow wall. I am hoping to have someone with more experience with trial and error save me some aggravation. Thanks!!

07/17/2013, 08:12 AM	#2
daplatapus Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Port Alberni, B.C., Canada Posts: 895	I think the only problem with that set up, is you get no water movement in the one overflow with the emergency drain. That water goes in the overflow and stagnates. __________________ 130 lbs Tonga LR, GFO and Carbon reactors, Tunze ozmolator ATO, 2- 20 gal QT tanks, Current Tank Info: 80 gal display 48L X 24H X16D, 2 MP-40's, Odyssea 2-250W MH 4-HO T-5 Actinic's, 80 lbs Aragonite sand, 4 - 150W titanium heaters, Reeflo Baracuda return pump, 150gal sump, Filter Guys Reef Miser 6 stage + 1 Dual RO/DI, LifeReef 48" Skimmer

07/17/2013, 02:12 PM	#4
Snausy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 907	Just run your returns up over the back with some tubing and a few 90's... I have my 300 set up that way. Two mains, two emergencies and then the returns come over the top-back down into the overflow on each side. Then out a bulkhead hole in the overflow face into the tank with a lock-line jet. Very clean and looks built in. Works well if you can afford an inch or two behind the tank. __________________ A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. -Mark Twain Current Tank Info: 300gal FOWLR- Emperor Angel, Rainbow Wrasse, Green Bird Wrasse, Dogface Puffer, Niger Trigger, Flame Hawkfish, Matted Filefish 150 Turbosnails that only come out at night! :D Last edited by Snausy; 07/17/2013 at 02:17 PM.

07/17/2013, 09:00 AM	#3
doctorvu Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 13	great point....thanks.

07/17/2013, 10:07 PM	#5
doctorvu Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 13	Yeah, I think I'm heading that direction. Wife wants it SILENT since it is in the family room....still working on getting my stockman's and overflow quieter, but the reviews of the herbie are so strong it seems like that's the best way to go. Thanks for your input and taking the time to offer help!