Angel Fish and corals

firewill65 · 08/18/2013, 10:59 AM

I'm running a 180 FOWLR and would like to start back with corals. My only problem is I have 3 fish that are prone to eating them. I know each fish is different... here they are:

1. Flame Angel
2. Regal Angel
3. Banner Fish

As far as corals...what can I grow that is overall not on their menu? Softies? Acros? Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Twistofer · 08/18/2013, 01:30 PM

I've had a flame and it was ok with all my corals. Bannerfish (Heniocus sp.?), I believe like SPS corals. Regals...I have no clue, but LA states that they are not reef safe. LA and Blue Zoo have pretty good profiles on their fishes.

CenterConsole · 08/18/2013, 01:31 PM

Which banner fish? Heniochus diphreutes is reef safe. Regal and flame angels are hit or miss, but better than many other angelfish when it comes to corals. Mostlikely mushrooms and SPS will be safe. Softies are hit or miss, any fleshy LPS will be lunch and probably zoas. Best to just try frags of it and see what is touched or not. Good luck! You could always setup a smaller reef tank! Have the best of both worlds!

firewill65 · 08/18/2013, 02:14 PM

It's the reef safe banner but ate my acans when I had them... So I guess the banner was hit or miss as well. Just looking for some color in the tank.

firewill65 · 08/18/2013, 02:16 PM

Montipora should be safe right?

JohnniG · 08/18/2013, 03:29 PM

Well. I heard its very dependant on the fishes personality

Bdial · 08/18/2013, 04:37 PM

I had flame that did fine in a mixed reef. I added a regal on a whim and it nearly destroyed a wellsophyllia i a little under a week. Flames are with caution. The regal i know will eat lps corals like brains. Im not sure on the bannerfish. Ive seen them in beautiful reefs. So id say with caution.

CenterConsole · 08/18/2013, 07:46 PM

The typical bannerfish that's commonly scene in the trade is heniochus acuminatus which isn't reef safe. The reef safe Heniochus diphreutes is very similar looking, it takes a skilled eye to distinguish between the two. Regardless, you'll never know anything until you try, just be prepared to remove corals.

cugly · 08/18/2013, 11:57 PM

Angels are hit and miss ..I have a regal and doesn't touch anything but hes well fed..I also have a multi ..

aleok · 08/19/2013, 12:02 AM

My flame angel was fine for a year, then got the taste of anything fleshy. had to get rid of him

Biocubehqi · 08/19/2013, 01:17 AM

My flame angel loved acros

LuchoTocado · 08/19/2013, 01:46 AM

well I was going to say flame angels where pretty safe because ive had them with good results but from reading the posts here i guess they are hit or miss.

08/18/2013, 10:59 AM	#1
firewill65 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 746	Angel Fish and corals I'm running a 180 FOWLR and would like to start back with corals. My only problem is I have 3 fish that are prone to eating them. I know each fish is different... here they are: 1. Flame Angel 2. Regal Angel 3. Banner Fish As far as corals...what can I grow that is overall not on their menu? Softies? Acros? Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

08/18/2013, 01:30 PM	#2
Twistofer Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Montana Posts: 371	I've had a flame and it was ok with all my corals. Bannerfish (Heniocus sp.?), I believe like SPS corals. Regals...I have no clue, but LA states that they are not reef safe. LA and Blue Zoo have pretty good profiles on their fishes. __________________ See what is; See what is not; Find the True Way ...The Buddha Current Tank Info: 120 gal New Build Coming Soon

08/18/2013, 03:29 PM	#6
JohnniG Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 620	Well. I heard its very dependant on the fishes personality __________________ 65 gal tank under construction

08/18/2013, 04:37 PM	#7
Bdial Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Huntington, wv Posts: 675	I had flame that did fine in a mixed reef. I added a regal on a whim and it nearly destroyed a wellsophyllia i a little under a week. Flames are with caution. The regal i know will eat lps corals like brains. Im not sure on the bannerfish. Ive seen them in beautiful reefs. So id say with caution. __________________ Enthusiasm without knowledge is no good. Haste makes waste. WINTER IS COMING

08/18/2013, 11:57 PM	#9
cugly Dansreeftank Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: chula vista Ca Posts: 1,388	Angels are hit and miss ..I have a regal and doesn't touch anything but hes well fed..I also have a multi .. __________________ 48x30x20 Leemar rimless starphire panels, lit by an Ati hybrid powermodule, apex controller with apex dos, ghl dosing, mp40qd and tunze. And korallen skimmer.

08/18/2013, 01:31 PM	#3
CenterConsole Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 187	Which banner fish? Heniochus diphreutes is reef safe. Regal and flame angels are hit or miss, but better than many other angelfish when it comes to corals. Mostlikely mushrooms and SPS will be safe. Softies are hit or miss, any fleshy LPS will be lunch and probably zoas. Best to just try frags of it and see what is touched or not. Good luck! You could always setup a smaller reef tank! Have the best of both worlds!

08/18/2013, 02:14 PM	#4
firewill65 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 746	It's the reef safe banner but ate my acans when I had them... So I guess the banner was hit or miss as well. Just looking for some color in the tank.

08/18/2013, 02:16 PM	#5
firewill65 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 746	Montipora should be safe right?

08/18/2013, 07:46 PM	#8
CenterConsole Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 187	The typical bannerfish that's commonly scene in the trade is heniochus acuminatus which isn't reef safe. The reef safe Heniochus diphreutes is very similar looking, it takes a skilled eye to distinguish between the two. Regardless, you'll never know anything until you try, just be prepared to remove corals.

08/19/2013, 12:02 AM	#10
aleok Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 145	My flame angel was fine for a year, then got the taste of anything fleshy. had to get rid of him

08/19/2013, 01:17 AM	#11
Biocubehqi Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Illinois Posts: 777	My flame angel loved acros

08/19/2013, 01:46 AM	#12
LuchoTocado Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Navarre, FL Posts: 57	well I was going to say flame angels where pretty safe because ive had them with good results but from reading the posts here i guess they are hit or miss.