Thinking of getting a Flame Angel this weekend/this week...

Spork3245 · 08/31/2013, 03:59 PM

Couple newbie questions first though

1.) Tank is a 90gallon, mostly FOWLR with some mushrooms that hitchhiked which I kind of like - considering getting more, brighter, mushrooms and maybe some zoa or other super-easy coral that require little-to-no attention from me

. Will the Flame Angel eat these corals? My One Spot Fox Face seems to be leaving them alone without issue.

2.) How hardy are Flame Angels? I generally try to only keep "easy" fish that don't require too much of my time/attention. Don't get me wrong; making sure there's always nori/seaweed on a clip is not something I consider hard, neither is feeding twice per day

3.) How aggressive will a Flame Angel be towards current stock and any new arrivals? Current stock is Ocellaris Clownfishes, 2x Cleaner Shrimp, CUC (mostly snails about 50-55 all together and 3 hermits too), Diamond Goby, Blue Neon Cleaner Goby, (male) Red Head Solon Fairy Wrasse and a One Spot Fox Face Rabbitfish. I LOVE my cleaner goby but they have a very short lifespan of 1-2 years unfortunately so I'll be adding another each time one's life becomes "full" so-to-speak, so being able to add additional fish is important.

4.) Currently I put nori/seaweed on a clip about once or twice per day for my foxface (my wrasse eats it too for some reason... Really can't figure that one out ?). In the morning I feed some Cyclop Eeze and about a 3rd cube of "Mega Marine Algae" (it's a mix of spirulina, squid and some other stuff). At night I feed about one cube of frozen Mysis and maybe throw some pellets/flakes in there if I feel the fish are still hungry. Would continuing the feedings the way I'm doing them be sufficient with the addition of a Flame Angel? Should I add a second clip for seaweed since I'll have two grazers in the tank (plus my wrasse that apparently likes veggies

)? Should I get more variety of frozen foods?

Thanks guys!!!

maddmaxx · 08/31/2013, 04:05 PM

flames will be fine wit corals. especially shrooms and zoas. if it ever happens to pick at them, most likely cause its hungry. many many ppl including myself have kept them in mixed reefs for yrs...

flames in general are hardy, but lately a lot of ppl seem to be getting not so good quality. make sure you can see the fish in person. look for vibrant colors, fins in good shape, nice and thick. if possible see if it eats...

the flame should be fine wit your current stock list...

the flame will def eat some of the nori, and keep your regular fish feeding schedule.

Spork3245 · 08/31/2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by maddmaxx

flames will be fine wit corals. especially shrooms and zoas. if it ever happens to pick at them, most likely cause its hungry. many many ppl including myself have kept them in mixed reefs for yrs...

flames in general are hardy, but lately a lot of ppl seem to be getting not so good quality. make sure you can see the fish in person. look for vibrant colors, fins in good shape, nice and thick. if possible see if it eats...

the flame should be fine wit your current stock list...

the flame will def eat some of the nori, and keep your regular fish feeding schedule.

Thank you! I only buy at a LFS usually as there's an extremely reputable one about 25 minutes from me and another one that's equally, if not more, reputable one about 40 minutes away. There's two other smaller, decent, ones near me too. I tend not to buy online due to crazy shipping prices, but if I didn't have so many LFS in my area I'd likely buy online I suppose

Twistofer · 08/31/2013, 05:09 PM

Flames are very hardy. I've had several in my time.

Regarding purchasing on line, I live in the middle of nowhere Montana, and while there are several fish stores, they're hardly local, being about 1 1/2 to 2 hours away. A portion of my livestock are purchased on-line. The "crazy" shipping costs; OK, overnight, well packaged with warm packs and oxygen and an "arrive alive" guarantee does add up. On the other hand, you pay that, in some way, when you purchase from a LFS. I think it all comes out in the wash.

Spork3245 · 08/31/2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Twistofer

Flames are very hardy. I've had several in my time.

Regarding purchasing on line, I live in the middle of nowhere Montana, and while there are several fish stores, they're hardly local, being about 1 1/2 to 2 hours away. A portion of my livestock are purchased on-line. The "crazy" shipping costs; OK, overnight, well packaged with warm packs and oxygen and an "arrive alive" guarantee does add up. On the other hand, you pay that, in some way, when you purchase from a LFS. I think it all comes out in the wash.

The main lfs I go to actually has approximately the same prices as live aquaria so it's not a wash for me

My one spot fox face was $25 from there, tank bred clowns were $15 each, cleaner goby was $14, etc. I think flame angels are $45-55 there last time I went.
Again, if there weren't any within reasonable distance near me (or if their prices were insane) I'd be more likely to order online. I'd probably buy online if I were looking for something specific that's a bit unusual too (like a female red headed solon wrasse) if I couldn't find it in one of the reputable lfs around me. That $25-35 in shipping adds up pretty quick

(I was going to buy about a dozen or so red banded trochus snails online as none of my lfs have been stocking them lately and when I saw the shipping prices I decided to hold off lol)

Spork3245 · 08/31/2013, 09:43 PM

Oh, completely forgot! One more question: I also plan on getting a feather duster, will the Flame Angel eat/kill it? I'll skip the duster if need be, just think they're neat and wanted one

Nina51 · 09/01/2013, 08:04 AM

if it doesn't bother corals, you'd probably be fine with a feather duster. make sure they don't try to sell you an empty tube, only buy it if you see it's radiole out. also, make sure it's a feather duster worm and not a coco worm.

i have feather duster worms in my 29g with a cherub angel. he never bothers them. my urchin, on the other hand, is notorious for carrying them around on his back.

08/31/2013, 03:59 PM	#1
Spork3245 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: South Central New Jersey Posts: 1,088	Thinking of getting a Flame Angel this weekend/this week... Couple newbie questions first though 1.) Tank is a 90gallon, mostly FOWLR with some mushrooms that hitchhiked which I kind of like - considering getting more, brighter, mushrooms and maybe some zoa or other super-easy coral that require little-to-no attention from me . Will the Flame Angel eat these corals? My One Spot Fox Face seems to be leaving them alone without issue. 2.) How hardy are Flame Angels? I generally try to only keep "easy" fish that don't require too much of my time/attention. Don't get me wrong; making sure there's always nori/seaweed on a clip is not something I consider hard, neither is feeding twice per day 3.) How aggressive will a Flame Angel be towards current stock and any new arrivals? Current stock is Ocellaris Clownfishes, 2x Cleaner Shrimp, CUC (mostly snails about 50-55 all together and 3 hermits too), Diamond Goby, Blue Neon Cleaner Goby, (male) Red Head Solon Fairy Wrasse and a One Spot Fox Face Rabbitfish. I LOVE my cleaner goby but they have a very short lifespan of 1-2 years unfortunately so I'll be adding another each time one's life becomes "full" so-to-speak, so being able to add additional fish is important. 4.) Currently I put nori/seaweed on a clip about once or twice per day for my foxface (my wrasse eats it too for some reason... Really can't figure that one out ?). In the morning I feed some Cyclop Eeze and about a 3rd cube of "Mega Marine Algae" (it's a mix of spirulina, squid and some other stuff). At night I feed about one cube of frozen Mysis and maybe throw some pellets/flakes in there if I feel the fish are still hungry. Would continuing the feedings the way I'm doing them be sufficient with the addition of a Flame Angel? Should I add a second clip for seaweed since I'll have two grazers in the tank (plus my wrasse that apparently likes veggies )? Should I get more variety of frozen foods? Thanks guys!!!

08/31/2013, 04:05 PM	#2
maddmaxx Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 3,003	flames will be fine wit corals. especially shrooms and zoas. if it ever happens to pick at them, most likely cause its hungry. many many ppl including myself have kept them in mixed reefs for yrs... flames in general are hardy, but lately a lot of ppl seem to be getting not so good quality. make sure you can see the fish in person. look for vibrant colors, fins in good shape, nice and thick. if possible see if it eats... the flame should be fine wit your current stock list... the flame will def eat some of the nori, and keep your regular fish feeding schedule. __________________ One Life One Shot Current Tank Info: 40B Mixed reef

08/31/2013, 05:09 PM	#4
Twistofer Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Montana Posts: 371	Flames are very hardy. I've had several in my time. Regarding purchasing on line, I live in the middle of nowhere Montana, and while there are several fish stores, they're hardly local, being about 1 1/2 to 2 hours away. A portion of my livestock are purchased on-line. The "crazy" shipping costs; OK, overnight, well packaged with warm packs and oxygen and an "arrive alive" guarantee does add up. On the other hand, you pay that, in some way, when you purchase from a LFS. I think it all comes out in the wash. __________________ See what is; See what is not; Find the True Way ...The Buddha Current Tank Info: 120 gal New Build Coming Soon

09/01/2013, 08:04 AM	#7
Nina51 biggliest cofveve champ Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: 5th floor, Illinois, gewgaw expert Posts: 3,506	if it doesn't bother corals, you'd probably be fine with a feather duster. make sure they don't try to sell you an empty tube, only buy it if you see it's radiole out. also, make sure it's a feather duster worm and not a coco worm. i have feather duster worms in my 29g with a cherub angel. he never bothers them. my urchin, on the other hand, is notorious for carrying them around on his back. __________________ of all the things i've lost, i miss my gary the most. Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine into your brain, and that is where crappy ideas come from. Current Tank Info: i gave my reef away and i feel like a bird out of a cage!!

08/31/2013, 09:43 PM	#6
Spork3245 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: South Central New Jersey Posts: 1,088	Oh, completely forgot! One more question: I also plan on getting a feather duster, will the Flame Angel eat/kill it? I'll skip the duster if need be, just think they're neat and wanted one