sump design

Sydoriakp · 09/08/2013, 04:29 PM

can some one put on a link for a nice and easy baffled diy sump I stink at searching but if anyone has a great idea that would be nice thank you guys. my sump is going to be a 55g

JDM_SOHC · 09/08/2013, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sydoriakp

can some one put on a link for a nice and easy baffled diy sump I stink at searching but if anyone has a great idea that would be nice thank you guys. my sump is going to be a 55g

here ya go..

Sydoriakp · 09/08/2013, 04:52 PM

thank you so much this site is the best I get such help this site has saved the hobby for me ty again

awe I thanked you before I opened link... ill still say thanks but now I feel dumb.... o well guess I deserve it..

nazerine · 09/09/2013, 03:26 AM

http://www.melevsreef.com/allmysumps.html

Everything you need to know about sumps can be found from that site, which was in the search result suggested above.

Sydoriakp · 09/09/2013, 09:15 AM

hey thanks so much I will look into it right now.. only have one month before the big move :0

hey thanks too both of you guys some great info on both

hub81 · 09/09/2013, 10:20 AM

This is about as simple as it gets. I have added a pic of mine. I used 1/4 in plastic I purchased at Lowes for 30 bucks, and I used marine silicone I purchased from amazon for 10. I had Lowes pre cut the plastic sheet for me. I added the skimmer and return so you can get an idea of the set up. The middle that is empty will be the refuge. This is an old 55Gal tank I bought off craigs list for 20 bucks. So the entire thing might have cost me 65 max.

hub81 · 09/09/2013, 10:22 AM

On the silicone make sure you get aquarium based silicone don't use the stuff for boats, bathrooms kitchens, etc.

nazerine · 09/09/2013, 12:20 PM

hub81 is a great example of a simple sump. See how there are 5 baffles total? Find out the optimal water depth for your skimmer, and use that as your deciding factor for baffle size. Cut all baffles the same size for simplicity. The last chamber on the right is for your return pump --- the smaller this chamber is, the faster your pump can run dry -- keep that in mind. I've always used ge silicone type 1 (for windows and doors) for glass work. Also consider having glass baffles cut at a local shop, as siliconing plastic/arylic in place can be troublesome.

Be sure to read melevs website on sumps as there is much you can learn for future re-designs. Good luck with it.

hub81 · 09/09/2013, 01:42 PM

Thanks, I will say that the depth in mine is for more water volume, the skimmer actually sets on an adjustable platform. With the depth I use for my sump the return will empty about 12 Gal into the show tank. The reason for this is because if the overflow was to clog my show tank can hold 16 gal before it overflows all over the floor. I don't fill the sump to the top just incase the return stops working the sump will hold enough water to go just under the overflow so it doesn't overflow the sump. You don't want to learn that the hard way with an indoor saltwater swimming pool.

Sydoriakp · 09/09/2013, 09:23 PM

ty guys

ya that's my biggest problem right now is that my sump is never stable im always adjusting because its all affected by evap.... ( no baffles ) filter sock stops bubbles but id like to have no sock as I get lazy and neglect changing it and it just nitrate trap... so ty again that sump looks like what im going to do

what do you use for ato in your sump I have air pressure one but I suppose it doesn't matter as I I think the evap all shows in the return section right?

and ty for the melevs link was a great site I learned a lot fom and still reading ...lots of info.. ty for links guys

09/08/2013, 04:29 PM	#1
Sydoriakp Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: buffalo ny Posts: 85	sump design can some one put on a link for a nice and easy baffled diy sump I stink at searching but if anyone has a great idea that would be nice thank you guys. my sump is going to be a 55g

09/08/2013, 04:52 PM	#3
Sydoriakp Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: buffalo ny Posts: 85	thank you so much this site is the best I get such help this site has saved the hobby for me ty again awe I thanked you before I opened link... ill still say thanks but now I feel dumb.... o well guess I deserve it.. Last edited by Dino; 09/10/2013 at 04:20 AM. Reason: Multiple posts back to back

09/09/2013, 09:15 AM	#5
Sydoriakp Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: buffalo ny Posts: 85	hey thanks so much I will look into it right now.. only have one month before the big move :0 hey thanks too both of you guys some great info on both Last edited by Dino; 09/10/2013 at 04:20 AM. Reason: Multiple posts back to back

09/09/2013, 10:22 AM	#7
hub81 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Missouri Posts: 100	On the silicone make sure you get aquarium based silicone don't use the stuff for boats, bathrooms kitchens, etc. __________________ Hubcap Try Not Do or Do Not There Is No Try Current Tank Info: 150 gal reef 220lbs sand 125lbs live rock, with 55 gal sump Octo Diablo skimmer, quite one 6000 return pump, 39 gal quarantine

09/09/2013, 01:42 PM	#9
hub81 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Missouri Posts: 100	Thanks, I will say that the depth in mine is for more water volume, the skimmer actually sets on an adjustable platform. With the depth I use for my sump the return will empty about 12 Gal into the show tank. The reason for this is because if the overflow was to clog my show tank can hold 16 gal before it overflows all over the floor. I don't fill the sump to the top just incase the return stops working the sump will hold enough water to go just under the overflow so it doesn't overflow the sump. You don't want to learn that the hard way with an indoor saltwater swimming pool. __________________ Hubcap Try Not Do or Do Not There Is No Try Current Tank Info: 150 gal reef 220lbs sand 125lbs live rock, with 55 gal sump Octo Diablo skimmer, quite one 6000 return pump, 39 gal quarantine

09/09/2013, 03:26 AM	#4
nazerine Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kelowna Posts: 32	http://www.melevsreef.com/allmysumps.html Everything you need to know about sumps can be found from that site, which was in the search result suggested above.

09/09/2013, 12:20 PM	#8
nazerine Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kelowna Posts: 32	hub81 is a great example of a simple sump. See how there are 5 baffles total? Find out the optimal water depth for your skimmer, and use that as your deciding factor for baffle size. Cut all baffles the same size for simplicity. The last chamber on the right is for your return pump --- the smaller this chamber is, the faster your pump can run dry -- keep that in mind. I've always used ge silicone type 1 (for windows and doors) for glass work. Also consider having glass baffles cut at a local shop, as siliconing plastic/arylic in place can be troublesome. Be sure to read melevs website on sumps as there is much you can learn for future re-designs. Good luck with it.

09/09/2013, 09:23 PM	#10
Sydoriakp Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: buffalo ny Posts: 85	ty guys ya that's my biggest problem right now is that my sump is never stable im always adjusting because its all affected by evap.... ( no baffles ) filter sock stops bubbles but id like to have no sock as I get lazy and neglect changing it and it just nitrate trap... so ty again that sump looks like what im going to do what do you use for ato in your sump I have air pressure one but I suppose it doesn't matter as I I think the evap all shows in the return section right? and ty for the melevs link was a great site I learned a lot fom and still reading ...lots of info.. ty for links guys Last edited by Dino; 09/10/2013 at 04:21 AM. Reason: Multiple posts back to back