MP-40 vs WP-25

wrxreefer823 · 10/13/2013, 01:41 PM

So I'd like to get some opinions here. I'm trying to decide on flow for my 120g reef. The measurements are 48x24x24. I had planned on getting two Vortech MP-40's, but I've been keeping and eye on the Jaebo WP-25's as well. They're less than 1/4 of the price and provide a comparable flow rate... I've just heard horror stories of the pumps dying. I'm not too fond of the power chord in my tank either, but in the interim, it seems like a decent alternative to spend $150 on a pair of them and just save up some cash so I can drop a small fortune on the Vortechs. Any thoughts??

asid61 · 10/13/2013, 02:01 PM

I think you could go up to a single wp-40 for that size tank.

azjohnny · 10/13/2013, 02:57 PM

What are the inhabitants of the tank and do you have a controller?

raynist · 10/13/2013, 04:40 PM

The WP25 does not flow anywhere near the MP40. I think you are talking about the WP40.

tkeracer619 · 10/14/2013, 12:07 AM

I don't do power cords in salt water.

I have 7 vortechs and am only using 1 at the moment. Still can't pry them out of my hands.

IME it is absolutely worth it. Don't forget the battery backup.

Reefnub · 10/14/2013, 12:23 AM

One wp40 will not be enough if it's a sps dominant tank. I have 2 vortechs running at 100% and a jebo wp40 running at 100%. I still feel like I need more flow..

Dapg8gt · 10/14/2013, 12:39 AM

Totally agree 1 wp40 will not be enough.. 2 mp40 or 2 wp40..if it's a full on sps tank you will need more also.. A single point source will get blocked and leave dead spots in the tank.. Fwiw in my 105 I have 1 mp40,3 mp10 and a wp40..its not running yet but that's what's going in it I'm on the edge running the mp10's though as my tank is 3/8" so we will see if they stay on =)..

raynist · 10/14/2013, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkeracer619

I don't do power cords in salt water.

I have 7 vortechs and am only using 1 at the moment. Still can't pry them out of my hands.

IME it is absolutely worth it. Don't forget the battery backup.

Do you have a wireless heater and wireless return pump also?

wrxreefer823 · 10/14/2013, 05:11 AM

I'm fully aware of the benefits of a vortech, as I have a mp10 on my 25g cube. I'll be switching over everything from that to my 120, which will be a mix of SPS, LPS, and zoas, with an emphasis on SPS. This is basically just a bandaid until I can drop $800+ on two mp40's. I wasn't aware that the WP40 would be more in line with the mp40. If that's the case, I'll likely just wait.

And no, I don't have a controller. Another thing I don't like abut the Jeabo is the fact that they don't work in unison.

Slicko · 10/14/2013, 05:11 AM

heater would be impressive but you can have a return pump not run in the water...

ssdawood · 10/14/2013, 05:45 AM

I own both, vortech and jebao. The only drawback of Jebao WP series is that it has a narrow flow. There is no undertow like a vortech which stirs up detrius very good. So I put the Jebao on one side and vortech on the other. But I like the undertow that vortech provides.

tkeracer619 · 10/14/2013, 07:38 PM

You guys know you don't have to submerge the actual wires on the heaters right?

BTW they do have external heaters.

10/13/2013, 01:41 PM	#1
wrxreefer823 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 601	MP-40 vs WP-25 So I'd like to get some opinions here. I'm trying to decide on flow for my 120g reef. The measurements are 48x24x24. I had planned on getting two Vortech MP-40's, but I've been keeping and eye on the Jaebo WP-25's as well. They're less than 1/4 of the price and provide a comparable flow rate... I've just heard horror stories of the pumps dying. I'm not too fond of the power chord in my tank either, but in the interim, it seems like a decent alternative to spend $150 on a pair of them and just save up some cash so I can drop a small fortune on the Vortechs. Any thoughts?? __________________ "Before you swim you've gotta be okay to sink..." Current Tank Info: Currently setting up a Red Sea 625 XXL

10/14/2013, 12:07 AM	#5
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	I don't do power cords in salt water. I have 7 vortechs and am only using 1 at the moment. Still can't pry them out of my hands. IME it is absolutely worth it. Don't forget the battery backup. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

10/14/2013, 12:23 AM	#6
Reefnub Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: California Posts: 750	One wp40 will not be enough if it's a sps dominant tank. I have 2 vortechs running at 100% and a jebo wp40 running at 100%. I still feel like I need more flow.. __________________ 200G SPS Dominated 60x30x26

10/14/2013, 12:39 AM	#7
Dapg8gt Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Pacifica Posts: 3,741	Totally agree 1 wp40 will not be enough.. 2 mp40 or 2 wp40..if it's a full on sps tank you will need more also.. A single point source will get blocked and leave dead spots in the tank.. Fwiw in my 105 I have 1 mp40,3 mp10 and a wp40..its not running yet but that's what's going in it I'm on the edge running the mp10's though as my tank is 3/8" so we will see if they stay on =).. __________________ 15 years in the hobby yet still learning every day. 280g radium lit sps flat living in my garage rent free. Current Tank Info: 105g SPS dominant euro braced powered by 4 ecotech pumps and lit by an ATI powermodule controlled by a reef angel =).

10/14/2013, 05:11 AM	#9
wrxreefer823 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 601	I'm fully aware of the benefits of a vortech, as I have a mp10 on my 25g cube. I'll be switching over everything from that to my 120, which will be a mix of SPS, LPS, and zoas, with an emphasis on SPS. This is basically just a bandaid until I can drop $800+ on two mp40's. I wasn't aware that the WP40 would be more in line with the mp40. If that's the case, I'll likely just wait. And no, I don't have a controller. Another thing I don't like abut the Jeabo is the fact that they don't work in unison. __________________ "Before you swim you've gotta be okay to sink..." Current Tank Info: Currently setting up a Red Sea 625 XXL

10/13/2013, 02:01 PM	#2
asid61 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cupertino, CA Posts: 1,111	I think you could go up to a single wp-40 for that size tank.

10/13/2013, 02:57 PM	#3
azjohnny Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Gold Canyon Posts: 2,914	What are the inhabitants of the tank and do you have a controller?

10/13/2013, 04:40 PM	#4
raynist Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 4,921	The WP25 does not flow anywhere near the MP40. I think you are talking about the WP40.

10/14/2013, 05:11 AM	#10
Slicko Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 7	heater would be impressive but you can have a return pump not run in the water...

10/14/2013, 05:45 AM	#11
ssdawood Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Wappingers Falls Posts: 324	I own both, vortech and jebao. The only drawback of Jebao WP series is that it has a narrow flow. There is no undertow like a vortech which stirs up detrius very good. So I put the Jebao on one side and vortech on the other. But I like the undertow that vortech provides.

10/14/2013, 07:38 PM	#12
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	You guys know you don't have to submerge the actual wires on the heaters right? BTW they do have external heaters. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.