led's cause for across color loss?

Parker7 · 02/04/2014, 01:08 PM

Hey every one I have a maxspect mazzara p series led system but I've Knowtessed that I have 2 prices of the same acro but they look world's different in terms of color and I don't understand why since I have another acro growing beautifully on the sand bed does any one know why? It has been like this for a while now my levels have been good up till about 4 days ago but it's looked like this for about 2 months. If any one knows why these 2 Identical corals are not any more plz help me out

kc350twin · 02/05/2014, 08:57 PM

I would suspect the one on the sand bed is getting less light.

that Fish Guy · 02/06/2014, 11:21 AM

I have the same problem.

I tried SPS under LED and all the Colors Faded and they turned Brown.

I only keep my SPS under T5 now.

LED is great for LPS and Softies though just not SPS.

Mustang Boy · 02/06/2014, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by that Fish Guy

I have the same problem.

I tried SPS under LED and all the Colors Faded and they turned Brown.

I only keep my SPS under T5 now.

LED is great for LPS and Softies though just not SPS.

That sure is funny cause I've seen several SPS dominated tanks lit only with LED.

that Fish Guy · 02/06/2014, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang Boy

That sure is funny cause I've seen several SPS dominated tanks lit only with LED.

Just speaking from my personal experience.

All my SPS loose color (They do not die and still grow just loose all their color) under LED.

I can only keep them under T5.

My LPS and Softies love LED though.

HurricaneSystem · 02/06/2014, 12:18 PM

Hey Fish Guy,

If your SPS are turning brown that is indicative of low light and sometimes high nutrients. What kind of LED's are you using?

zachts · 02/06/2014, 08:45 PM

The wrong or limited LED spectrum can cause loss of SPS color as well even thought the coral continues to thrive it may brown out if not being hit with the wavelengths of light that were previously causing it to fluoresce in bright colors. (see the "open letter to the LED industry" thread for a heck of a lot of info on that subject, just read past some of the early bickering and look for the info and links)

zachts · 02/06/2014, 08:46 PM

@ the OP if the one on the sand bed looks good and one higher up does not, the one higher up is getting too strong of light from the LEDs. the optics can create small hot spots that may be burning the coral to some degree.

that Fish Guy · 02/07/2014, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by HurricaneSystem

Hey Fish Guy,

If your SPS are turning brown that is indicative of low light and sometimes high nutrients. What kind of LED's are you using?

Kessil A150

HurricaneSystem · 02/07/2014, 08:38 AM

You would need a bunch of those for SPS

meshwheel · 02/07/2014, 08:45 AM

That is correct. Depending on the size tank, you would need quite a few Kessil 150's for a SPS tank!

that Fish Guy · 02/07/2014, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by meshwheel

That is correct. Depending on the size tank, you would need quite a few Kessil 150's for a SPS tank!

It was only a 10 Gallon (12 inches Deep so very very Shallow).

meshwheel · 02/08/2014, 10:13 AM

How long where you running the light for each day? How far off the water surface was it?

HurricaneSystem · 02/08/2014, 11:51 AM

I had a 150 right over an Acro secale and it still browned out. The 360's are different of course, but 150's not so much.

that Fish Guy · 02/08/2014, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by meshwheel

How long where you running the light for each day? How far off the water surface was it?

Light was on 8 to 12 Hours a Day.

It is about 10 Inches off the Water Level (It is on the Kessil Gooseneck).

Johnic · 02/09/2014, 08:00 PM

Following along. I'm noticing a big lose of color as well with my ecotec gen1 with tir lense.

02/04/2014, 01:08 PM	#1
Parker7 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 89	led's cause for across color loss? Hey every one I have a maxspect mazzara p series led system but I've Knowtessed that I have 2 prices of the same acro but they look world's different in terms of color and I don't understand why since I have another acro growing beautifully on the sand bed does any one know why? It has been like this for a while now my levels have been good up till about 4 days ago but it's looked like this for about 2 months. If any one knows why these 2 Identical corals are not any more plz help me out

02/05/2014, 08:57 PM	#2
kc350twin Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Severn, MD Posts: 1,579	I would suspect the one on the sand bed is getting less light. __________________ 112g Cube 36x36x20= Custom 12x39wPower Module (Par Monster)= Neptune Apex=ATB 840v2=BM Doser= 2 MP-40's

02/06/2014, 11:21 AM	#3
that Fish Guy Frag Swap Crusader! Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 2,538	I have the same problem. I tried SPS under LED and all the Colors Faded and they turned Brown. I only keep my SPS under T5 now. LED is great for LPS and Softies though just not SPS. __________________ For a Complete List of all the Frag Swaps in 2018 Click the Link Below. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2655153 You do not want to miss any! Current Tank Info: 55 Gallon, 45 Gallon, 29 Gallon, 20 Gallon, 20 Gallon #2, 10 Gallon

02/07/2014, 08:45 AM	#11
meshwheel Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,430	That is correct. Depending on the size tank, you would need quite a few Kessil 150's for a SPS tank! __________________ ............And then the cops showed up

02/08/2014, 10:13 AM	#13
meshwheel Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,430	How long where you running the light for each day? How far off the water surface was it? __________________ ............And then the cops showed up

02/06/2014, 12:18 PM	#6
HurricaneSystem Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: TN Posts: 528 Blog Entries: 1	Hey Fish Guy, If your SPS are turning brown that is indicative of low light and sometimes high nutrients. What kind of LED's are you using?

02/06/2014, 08:45 PM	#7
zachts Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 3,259	The wrong or limited LED spectrum can cause loss of SPS color as well even thought the coral continues to thrive it may brown out if not being hit with the wavelengths of light that were previously causing it to fluoresce in bright colors. (see the "open letter to the LED industry" thread for a heck of a lot of info on that subject, just read past some of the early bickering and look for the info and links)

02/06/2014, 08:46 PM	#8
zachts Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 3,259	@ the OP if the one on the sand bed looks good and one higher up does not, the one higher up is getting too strong of light from the LEDs. the optics can create small hot spots that may be burning the coral to some degree.

02/07/2014, 08:38 AM	#10
HurricaneSystem Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: TN Posts: 528 Blog Entries: 1	You would need a bunch of those for SPS

02/08/2014, 11:51 AM	#14
HurricaneSystem Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: TN Posts: 528 Blog Entries: 1	I had a 150 right over an Acro secale and it still browned out. The 360's are different of course, but 150's not so much.

02/09/2014, 08:00 PM	#16
Johnic Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,092	Following along. I'm noticing a big lose of color as well with my ecotec gen1 with tir lense. __________________ 75 Lee Mar Peninsula Tank, Reef Octo Elite 150, Custom Advanced Acrylic Sump, (2) MP40, Vectra M2 Main Pump, (2) XR15 Pro, Clear Water ATS CW-50, Alkatronic,GHL Doser 2.1, Apex Neptune El with Trident